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Post by heartofgas on Oct 6, 2023 11:34:40 GMT
I just noticed your username. As someone who seems so aware of brand, why call yourself 'Roadman'.  You've got to be on a wind up. "Bristol Sport is a brand above all brands!" That says it all there. Even if I wasn't a rovers fan I would hate to support a club that had become that. A corporate entity. Are you sure you're a Gashead? His username used to be a series of road names - people therefore referred to him as "road man" for simplicity, hence the new username was born. I can assure you, he is a massive Rovers fan. I wasn't sure why he was referencing Bristol City so did make me wonder |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 6, 2023 11:57:17 GMT
World's gone mad ,saw this week that an NHS Trust is giving men 12 months paid leave if they complain of Andropause( male menopause ffs),it's not even a recognised medical condition. "Male menopause, or andropause as it's also known, occurs when a man’s testosterone levels fall, resulting in symptoms such as fatigue, weight gain, depression, sexual health problems and mood changes. According to Dr Alexis Missick, a GP working with the online pharmaceutical company UK Meds, the majority of men who are experiencing male menopause will also experience low libido and may not be able to maintain a strong erection." Sounds like marriage, then. 🤔 Sounds like just getting old to me😊😊 |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 6, 2023 12:00:04 GMT
World's gone mad ,saw this week that an NHS Trust is giving men 12 months paid leave if they complain of Andropause( male menopause ffs),it's not even a recognised medical condition. Yet you can’t get an appointment with a GP, but of course it’s “the Tories” at fault apparently. It's decades of underinvestment,Having PFI contracts that means Trusts currently pay out billions rather it going to more Drs etc and better facilities and the NHS being required to do stuff that it was never intended to do |
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Post by gasheadmichal on Oct 6, 2023 12:08:03 GMT
Maris pipers at Tesco buy one get one free.
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 6, 2023 12:16:24 GMT
We have 192 people at our factory and we have been trading for over 50 years. We pride ourselves on being a major local employer, paper is recyclable, carbon offset our paper, vegetable based inks, 18% of our power comes from solar energy. Our paper sourced is FSC or PEFC accredited, we take and consider the environment very much and we have been recognised for this by Suffolk County Council. We are recognising the younger generations as well, we have a fantastic cadet and apprenticeship offering in employment. I am proud of the business I represent, print isn’t dead and long may it continue as an industry, certainly the 192 people employ hope this. Are you writing out your CV or something. You seem very full of yourself and how great you are. 😆banter |
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Post by devonwhite9 on Oct 6, 2023 12:33:42 GMT
JB seems to like putting short posts on Twitter which follow a theme - Andrew Tate is "food for thought", Kevin Keegan is spot on... Nobody is putting a microphone in front of him and asking him to give his views on this. If this doesn't bother you and it's only about the football, it's only a matter of time before he crosses a line and we have no choice but to get shot of him. I'm as happy to bury my head in the sand and support the team as the next person, but this doesn't make me feel comfortable at all
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Post by oldie on Oct 6, 2023 12:34:47 GMT
Your line of defense is tedious. In general though my personal opinion is that we can all get dragged down into argument about a single, relatively inconsequential, incident. The story is the build up of evidence over a timeline. Who gives a toss about Barton's opinion of the "man boy" Keegan's opinions? But, as the main public representative of our club, he has a responsibility. This responsibility he fails dramatically on the PR front. So far over the last week we have had the public dressing down of one of our top players and now agreeing in public with a view on women in the media which was almost certain to draw negative comments. All totally unnecessary and puts the club in a bad light. Potential brand damage as Roadman points out. The truth is, I believe, that damage has already occurred given the events of the last couple of years. The truth is the club has hired a narcissist whose opinions of his own intelligence bear no relationship to his actual intelligence. So the club have employed this person on the gamble he will get us into the championship. We shall see whether that gamble plays out. Certainly the squad he has put together makes it a distinct possibility IMO, ironically it may well be his own stupid actions and idiosyncratic tactics and team set up that may derail that, not the quality of the players. Brand damage ? This could be what for the club ….. crowds going down? No evidence Failure to attract decent players to the club ? No evidence Sponsors pulling out from the club ? No evidence Explain to me what this brand damage is and point it out to me , because I can’t see any. That's the thing with branding, it takes a while to build and a while to unravel. Come Christmas it will be interesting to see average attendances as a year on year comparison for the equivalent period if we are not in within sniffing distance of the top 6, or worse. We shall see. |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 6, 2023 12:37:56 GMT
Brand damage ? This could be what for the club ….. crowds going down? No evidence Failure to attract decent players to the club ? No evidence Sponsors pulling out from the club ? No evidence Explain to me what this brand damage is and point it out to me , because I can’t see any. That's the thing with branding, it takes a while to build and a while to unravel. Come Christmas it will be interesting to see average attendances as a year on year comparison for the equivalent period if we are not in within sniffing distance of the top 6, or worse. We shall see. Impossible to compare as we are short of one end etc |
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Post by oldie on Oct 6, 2023 12:38:03 GMT
Your line of defense is tedious. In general though my personal opinion is that we can all get dragged down into argument about a single, relatively inconsequential, incident. The story is the build up of evidence over a timeline. Who gives a toss about Barton's opinion of the "man boy" Keegan's opinions? But, as the main public representative of our club, he has a responsibility. This responsibility he fails dramatically on the PR front. So far over the last week we have had the public dressing down of one of our top players and now agreeing in public with a view on women in the media which was almost certain to draw negative comments. All totally unnecessary and puts the club in a bad light. Potential brand damage as Roadman points out. The truth is, I believe, that damage has already occurred given the events of the last couple of years. The truth is the club has hired a narcissist whose opinions of his own intelligence bear no relationship to his actual intelligence. So the club have employed this person on the gamble he will get us into the championship. We shall see whether that gamble plays out. Certainly the squad he has put together makes it a distinct possibility IMO, ironically it may well be his own stupid actions and idiosyncratic tactics and team set up that may derail that, not the quality of the players. Were you calling me a liar? I don't recall calling you anything |
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Post by oldie on Oct 6, 2023 12:39:48 GMT
That's the thing with branding, it takes a while to build and a while to unravel. Come Christmas it will be interesting to see average attendances as a year on year comparison for the equivalent period if we are not in within sniffing distance of the top 6, or worse. We shall see. Impossible to compare as we are short of one end etc We can adjust for that...less the numbers that moved to other parts of the ground |
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Post by rovers78 on Oct 6, 2023 12:41:49 GMT
Assuming you acknowledge the typo..what are you saying? I'm a liar? Or, are you looking for the daily trolldie fix? Yeah, probably that. Carry on. Your line of defense is tedious. In general though my personal opinion is that we can all get dragged down into argument about a single, relatively inconsequential, incident. The story is the build up of evidence over a timeline. Who gives a toss about Barton's opinion of the "man boy" Keegan's opinions? But, as the main public representative of our club, he has a responsibility. This responsibility he fails dramatically on the PR front. So far over the last week we have had the public dressing down of one of our top players and now agreeing in public with a view on women in the media which was almost certain to draw negative comments. All totally unnecessary and puts the club in a bad light. Potential brand damage as Roadman points out. The truth is, I believe, that damage has already occurred given the events of the last couple of years. The truth is the club has hired a narcissist whose opinions of his own intelligence bear no relationship to his actual intelligence. So the club have employed this person on the gamble he will get us into the championship. We shall see whether that gamble plays out. Certainly the squad he has put together makes it a distinct possibility IMO, ironically it may well be his own stupid actions and idiosyncratic tactics and team set up that may derail that, not the quality of the players. Totally agreed. He better hope he somehow does manage to do it, for the clubs sake too. We will be massively over budget this season, and with the vastly lost revenue from only 3 stands, hence the need to rise prices everywhere else in the ground, we are not going to be in a good place accounts wise when they are next out IMO. All of the signings this season are very very expensive ones from a wages perspective, or loan fees etc in relative terms. Wael and Tom have doubled down on him, from playing staff to coaching staff to allowing his actions and comments off the pitch with no consequence. though he’s shown no real reason why they should’ve done so. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Oct 6, 2023 13:08:56 GMT
So you don’t work in business, I respect that, you don’t get it. Sponsors and advertisers are nothing to do with fans and you and your Father. Just because you don’t take offence, it doesn’t mean Kelly doesn’t, or HGT pulling away from being a partner to the club. The new family relocated to Bristol from say Herts, Cumbria, who want to take their children to games locally. I know 5 Gasheads who don’t go because of him, that’s ok though, you have thick skin. Can I ask why attendances are higher now then when GC was in charge and had us 2nd in league one? For all the people you say you know who don't attend there are more that do so really that side of your argument has no credence. You say you don't want to offend anyone but unfortunately in the society we have created now that is impossible and for anyone who says they haven't offended somebody is a liar as noone is perfect. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 13:09:39 GMT
We have 192 people at our factory and we have been trading for over 50 years. We pride ourselves on being a major local employer, paper is recyclable, carbon offset our paper, vegetable based inks, 18% of our power comes from solar energy. Our paper sourced is FSC or PEFC accredited, we take and consider the environment very much and we have been recognised for this by Suffolk County Council. We are recognising the younger generations as well, we have a fantastic cadet and apprenticeship offering in employment. I am proud of the business I represent, print isn’t dead and long may it continue as an industry, certainly the 192 people employ hope this. Are you writing out your CV or something. You seem very full of yourself and how great you are. No I am proud of the business I work for and represent, I don’t own it, our ethics were questioned, I have defended the company I work for and explained our environmental credentials. Many moons ago, over 15 years ago user name used to be the roads from Bicester to the Mem, A41, A34, M4, M32, B………….. I was given nickname Roadman. Proud I represented this forum as well against OTIB in our 7-2 win, some good brand awareness that day for our forum, no sending offs, played like gentleman 😂 You questioned my user name as well, hope this clears it up for you. |
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Post by perryfenwick on Oct 6, 2023 13:16:30 GMT
Well he usually comes out with idiotic stuff for one of three reasons: after a few wins, because he feels untouchable, after a few losses, as a distraction, or just because nobody's given him any attention for five minutes. The two constants are criticism of him as a person - which doesn't dry up based on results - and the same people every time lining up to kiss his feet and defend him. Ok, so what about his tweet on Keegans opinion? Is that worthy of all this? You tell me. I preferred it when we had managers whose attentions were solely on the football club as opposed to attention seeking on social media. But then the man who hired him likes meeting famous people and half our fans seem to like having a 'name' as a manager so ask them if having this bloke in post is worth it. |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 6, 2023 13:17:25 GMT
Impossible to compare as we are short of one end etc We can adjust for that...less the numbers that moved to other parts of the ground Agreed but don't you think there's an element of folk don't bother etc because they assume with reduced capacity it's harder to get a ticket etc |
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Post by oliverhelmet on Oct 6, 2023 13:20:53 GMT
OMFG What a load of old shyte about a nothing story.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 13:29:18 GMT
So you don’t work in business, I respect that, you don’t get it. Sponsors and advertisers are nothing to do with fans and you and your Father. Just because you don’t take offence, it doesn’t mean Kelly doesn’t, or HGT pulling away from being a partner to the club. The new family relocated to Bristol from say Herts, Cumbria, who want to take their children to games locally. I know 5 Gasheads who don’t go because of him, that’s ok though, you have thick skin. Can I ask why attendances are higher now then when GC was in charge and had us 2nd in league one? For all the people you say you know who don't attend there are more that do so really that side of your argument has no credence. You say you don't want to offend anyone but unfortunately in the society we have created now that is impossible and for anyone who says they haven't offended somebody is a liar as noone is perfect. This one is interesting, again based on attendances. I would say our attendances are up based on a promotion, winning football. But our season tickets sales are down on last season, attendances can be looked at so many ways, who is to say we’d not have a few more, no one can gage this? In terms of our business model, our major revenue provider is fan attendance, brand awareness also covers sponsorship and advertising. We can’t keep judging a business on fan attendance, sponsorship and advertising need to be considered. www.thejc.com/news/news/football-club-loses-sponsors-after-palestinian-flag-hoisted-over-pitch-iAOByR3fNaM8zkmRPHZm8Barton is pro Palestine and tweets it, anti church, anti Tory, I wouldn’t have a clue who Paul Trollope voted for? So as an owner and leadership team you’d stop an employee from representing the business this way to protect the brand. Gary Neville does it re the Labour Party, difference is Salford City is his toy. One partner has left the club already over Barton, the biggest recent movement in support for females supporters in the game HGT served notice to Tom Gorringe. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Oct 6, 2023 13:45:48 GMT
Can I ask why attendances are higher now then when GC was in charge and had us 2nd in league one? For all the people you say you know who don't attend there are more that do so really that side of your argument has no credence. You say you don't want to offend anyone but unfortunately in the society we have created now that is impossible and for anyone who says they haven't offended somebody is a liar as noone is perfect. This one is interesting, again based on attendances. I would say our attendances are up based on a promotion, winning football. But our season tickets sales are down on last season, attendances can be looked at so many ways, who is to say we’d not have a few more, no one can gage this? In terms of our business model, our major revenue provider is fan attendance, brand awareness also covers sponsorship and advertising. We can’t keep judging a business on fan attendance, sponsorship and advertising need to be considered. www.thejc.com/news/news/football-club-loses-sponsors-after-palestinian-flag-hoisted-over-pitch-iAOByR3fNaM8zkmRPHZm8Barton is pro Palestine and tweets it, anti church, anti Tory, I wouldn’t have a clue who Paul Trollope voted for? So as an owner and leadership team you’d stop an employee from representing the business this way to protect the brand. Gary Neville does it re the Labour Party, difference is Salford City is his toy. One partner has left the club already over Barton, the biggest recent movement in support for females supporters in the game HGT served notice to Tom Gorringe. Re attendances when GC had us 2nd we were getting 6/7000 home attendances and falling. Under JB they have stayed on average around 8000 and more if we are doing well. We don't even have a South Stand at present and very limited seating. Personally I think attendances will rise to 9000+ when it is finally finished. That shows to me that the majority of fans are more interested in a winning football team than what opinions the manager has on X. The HGT thing is another debate and not one I want to get into as I don't know all the facts of why they no are longer partnered to our club but I do know Caz has had alot of vile stuff sent to her and that's out of order. |
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Post by heartofgas on Oct 6, 2023 13:51:21 GMT
Can I ask why attendances are higher now then when GC was in charge and had us 2nd in league one? For all the people you say you know who don't attend there are more that do so really that side of your argument has no credence. You say you don't want to offend anyone but unfortunately in the society we have created now that is impossible and for anyone who says they haven't offended somebody is a liar as noone is perfect. This one is interesting, again based on attendances. I would say our attendances are up based on a promotion, winning football. But our season tickets sales are down on last season, attendances can be looked at so many ways, who is to say we’d not have a few more, no one can gage this? In terms of our business model, our major revenue provider is fan attendance, brand awareness also covers sponsorship and advertising. We can’t keep judging a business on fan attendance, sponsorship and advertising need to be considered. www.thejc.com/news/news/football-club-loses-sponsors-after-palestinian-flag-hoisted-over-pitch-iAOByR3fNaM8zkmRPHZm8Barton is pro Palestine and tweets it, anti church, anti Tory, I wouldn’t have a clue who Paul Trollope voted for? So as an owner and leadership team you’d stop an employee from representing the business this way to protect the brand. Gary Neville does it re the Labour Party, difference is Salford City is his toy. Some thoughts on this. Who knows what governs attendances. I would say there a few major factors. How well the team are doing, History of how the team have performed, entertainment of the football, facilities at the stadium, Ease of getting to the ground, when and what day games are on. I can't believe that the twitter musings of the manager really has much of an impact on attendances. So far as our owners go, I think they will judge Joey on his performance and how he does. Maybe his profile attracts players we wouldn't have otherwise got. Maybe Wael & Co tolerate Joey for being Joey as they like the way he is managing things. when they appointed him they knew he attracted controversy, so I don't think there will be anything that would change in that regard. If we get promoted to the championship under JB then people will forget about things like this. That's not to say that I don't think it is sad that people don't attend games because of our manager. I am asking this genuinely. What benefit does worrying about branding and being a brand bring to a football club? Has 'Bristol Sport' benefitted Bristol City? I can see from getting sponsors it may have an effect but even then I would say a lot of the sponsorship will be down to what league we are in, how often we will be on TV and our facilities?. It would seem that for a club in league 1 the main revenue streams are TV money, Prem solidarity payments and crowd attendances. Could we ever get sponsorship to the same order of magnitude as these? I think the most important thing for a football is team performance and matchday/stadium experience for the fans. |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 6, 2023 13:56:03 GMT
This one is interesting, again based on attendances. I would say our attendances are up based on a promotion, winning football. But our season tickets sales are down on last season, attendances can be looked at so many ways, who is to say we’d not have a few more, no one can gage this? In terms of our business model, our major revenue provider is fan attendance, brand awareness also covers sponsorship and advertising. We can’t keep judging a business on fan attendance, sponsorship and advertising need to be considered. www.thejc.com/news/news/football-club-loses-sponsors-after-palestinian-flag-hoisted-over-pitch-iAOByR3fNaM8zkmRPHZm8Barton is pro Palestine and tweets it, anti church, anti Tory, I wouldn’t have a clue who Paul Trollope voted for? So as an owner and leadership team you’d stop an employee from representing the business this way to protect the brand. Gary Neville does it re the Labour Party, difference is Salford City is his toy. One partner has left the club already over Barton, the biggest recent movement in support for females supporters in the game HGT served notice to Tom Gorringe. Re attendances when GC had us 2nd we were getting 6/7000 home attendances and falling. Under JB they have stayed on average around 8000 and more if we are doing well. We don't even have a South Stand at present and very limited seating. Personally I think attendances will rise to 9000+ when it is finally finished. That shows to me that the majority of fans are more interested in a winning football team than what opinions the manager has on X. The HGT thing is another debate and not one I want to get into as I don't know all the facts of why they no are longer partnered to our club but I do know Caz has had alot of vile stuff sent to her and that's out of order. Cost of living crisis going on as well , think attendances have held up really well considering. |
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