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Post by oldie on Oct 6, 2023 13:57:10 GMT
We can adjust for that...less the numbers that moved to other parts of the ground Agreed but don't you think there's an element of folk don't bother etc because they assume with reduced capacity it's harder to get a ticket etc There are all kinds of variables, some constant so temporary. But we shall see. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 6, 2023 13:58:36 GMT
Does Barton being pro Palestine, anti church and anti tory make him a bad person. For what it’s worth Im pro Palestine, could not care less about the church and am a tory to boot.
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 6, 2023 13:58:51 GMT
Were you calling me a liar? I don't recall calling you anything Lol, nay balls. |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 6, 2023 13:59:00 GMT
Can I ask why attendances are higher now then when GC was in charge and had us 2nd in league one? For all the people you say you know who don't attend there are more that do so really that side of your argument has no credence. You say you don't want to offend anyone but unfortunately in the society we have created now that is impossible and for anyone who says they haven't offended somebody is a liar as noone is perfect. This one is interesting, again based on attendances. I would say our attendances are up based on a promotion, winning football. But our season tickets sales are down on last season, attendances can be looked at so many ways, who is to say we’d not have a few more, no one can gage this? In terms of our business model, our major revenue provider is fan attendance, brand awareness also covers sponsorship and advertising. We can’t keep judging a business on fan attendance, sponsorship and advertising need to be considered. www.thejc.com/news/news/football-club-loses-sponsors-after-palestinian-flag-hoisted-over-pitch-iAOByR3fNaM8zkmRPHZm8Barton is pro Palestine and tweets it, anti church, anti Tory, I wouldn’t have a clue who Paul Trollope voted for? So as an owner and leadership team you’d stop an employee from representing the business this way to protect the brand. Gary Neville does it re the Labour Party, difference is Salford City is his toy. One partner has left the club already over Barton, the biggest recent movement in support for females supporters in the game HGT served notice to Tom Gorringe. What are our season ticket sales compared to last season? |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 6, 2023 13:59:43 GMT
Does Barton being pro Palestine, anti church and anti tory make him a bad person. For what it’s worth Im pro Palestine, could not care less about the church and am a tory to boot. Used to think you were alright 🙄 |
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Post by discodave on Oct 6, 2023 14:01:12 GMT
Brand damage ? This could be what for the club ….. crowds going down? No evidence Failure to attract decent players to the club ? No evidence Sponsors pulling out from the club ? No evidence Explain to me what this brand damage is and point it out to me , because I can’t see any. That's the thing with branding, it takes a while to build and a while to unravel. Come Christmas it will be interesting to see average attendances as a year on year comparison for the equivalent period if we are not in within sniffing distance of the top 6, or worse. We shall see. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 14:02:57 GMT
Does Barton being pro Palestine, anti church and anti tory make him a bad person. For what it’s worth Im pro Palestine, could not care less about the church and am a tory to boot. I'm a green who believes in a local velodrome and attend the Buddhist centre. Just need someone to publish flyers for local events that employs at least 192 people and doesn't make a song and dance about it |
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Post by discodave on Oct 6, 2023 14:03:43 GMT
like when the new stand is open one one is going to sit in it . I remember when were getting 4k under Dave Penny. People are boycotting that's their choice but I see zero evidence of Barton effecting attendances quite the opposite in fact
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 14:07:36 GMT
As I said Bridgewater, brand awareness is so much more than just fan attendance but granted under Barton they are good.
But if we are throwing GC into the hat, let’s throw in DC, I’m loving this!!
Last season our average attendance was 8,907
In 2017 it was 9,302, 400 up on Barton’s reign, brand awareness, move love for DC?
2018 our second season in Div1 like now, 8,933, again more than last seasons attendance. Now so far, this season our attendance is 1,000 plus already on DC’s second season.
Let’s not make our glitter is gold guys, the club has gone backwards on past seasons promotions, how is the brand awareness going?
And cost of living crisis, 15,000 season ticket holders at Ashton Gate, is it only certain areas of Bristol struggling, we also have record wages levels in the country fuelling inflation
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 14:09:24 GMT
Does Barton being pro Palestine, anti church and anti tory make him a bad person. For what it’s worth Im pro Palestine, could not care less about the church and am a tory to boot. I'm a green who believes in a local velodrome and attend the Buddhist centre. Just need someone to publish flyers for local events that employs at least 192 people and doesn't make a song and dance about it You two don’t force it down peoples throats and have customers and sponsors to appease! |
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Post by perryfenwick on Oct 6, 2023 14:10:52 GMT
The football is always likely to be the main driver of attendances and if attendances are up - especially despite the horrific price increases brought in match by match - you can't deny that the football - and therefore the man in charge of the football - is part of that.
I hate the bloke and wanted him sacked from the minute he stepped in the training ground but you can't deny that.
Post Covid, attendances went up cos we all knew what we were missing, too.
I don't know if Barton affects attendances negatively. I don't think many are choosing not to go. As ever with a divisive issue - take Newcastle being owned by the Saudis as another example- there are 3 sets of people:
1. People so mortified by the person/people at the heart of the issue that they can't bear to watch the team.
2. People who may or may not like the guy but are there to support their club when they can. Ranges from people who dislike Barton but who have been going for years to people who quite like him but at least respect others' right not to.
3. The people who actively like the division. Think of the minority of Newcastle fans online who defend any allegation against the Saudis or the small group of Gas who hero worship the manager.
Over 90% of the fanbase is in group 2.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Oct 6, 2023 14:15:44 GMT
I'm a green who believes in a local velodrome and attend the Buddhist centre. Just need someone to publish flyers for local events that employs at least 192 people and doesn't make a song and dance about it You two don’t force it down peoples throats and have customers and sponsors to appease! Nobody is forced to follow Barton on social media, or read articles about him - it's a free choice to do so. Personally, I rarely listen to his interviews, by choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 14:16:08 GMT
Does Barton being pro Palestine, anti church and anti tory make him a bad person. For what it’s worth Im pro Palestine, could not care less about the church and am a tory to boot. any other tories want to reveal themselves so they can be blocked? |
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 6, 2023 14:24:01 GMT
I'm a green who believes in a local velodrome and attend the Buddhist centre. Just need someone to publish flyers for local events that employs at least 192 people and doesn't make a song and dance about it You two don’t force it down peoples throats and have customers and sponsors to appease! Yes but should the club ban us for our views and reimburse my ST. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 14:27:33 GMT
I'm a green who believes in a local velodrome and attend the Buddhist centre. Just need someone to publish flyers for local events that employs at least 192 people and doesn't make a song and dance about it You two don’t force it down peoples throats and have customers and sponsors to appease! like the trump effect to demonise him the more popular he seems to get. I had no opinion either way on our manager until you started your obsessive online bullying and paranoia of Barton. Now you come across as someone who has narcissist traits you seem to despise |
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 6, 2023 14:29:14 GMT
Does Barton being pro Palestine, anti church and anti tory make him a bad person. For what it’s worth Im pro Palestine, could not care less about the church and am a tory to boot. any other tories want to reveal themselves so they can be blocked? Like your post but could not care less about your political views just as you should mine. Surely the only thing that counts on here is if we are gasheads and from reading some of the recent stuff on here tells me some are not. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 14:41:00 GMT
You two don’t force it down peoples throats and have customers and sponsors to appease! Yes but should the club ban us for our views and reimburse my ST. I think any business appreciates its customers have varied views, lies and opinions, they are more than happy they have your custom. Now in some cases they will ban the customer depending on the level of opinion and if they actions are dangerous or inciting hatred. Looking forward to Saturday, I will be at the Kassam supporting our side, it will be something else next week. It is what it is, the clubs leadership can’t control the manager and obviously see him of such importance that they allow him free rein on what he says. We can debate it all day, I can’t 💯 say why DC’s side had more support and why we are 1,000 down today on attendances, I do think the cost of living crisis is exaggerated in football, 15,000 ST at the gate, Carlisle taking 4,500 to Bolton tomorrow, Oxford United expecting 10,000 tomorrow and attendances really up. |
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Post by fanboy on Oct 6, 2023 15:02:45 GMT
As I said Bridgewater, brand awareness is so much more than just fan attendance but granted under Barton they are good. But if we are throwing GC into the hat, let’s throw in DC, I’m loving this!! Last season our average attendance was 8,907 In 2017 it was 9,302, 400 up on Barton’s reign, brand awareness, move love for DC? 2018 our second season in Div1 like now, 8,933, again more than last seasons attendance. Now so far, this season our attendance is 1,000 plus already on DC’s second season. Let’s not make our glitter is gold guys, the club has gone backwards on past seasons promotions, how is the brand awareness going? And cost of living crisis, 15,000 season ticket holders at Ashton Gate, is it only certain areas of Bristol struggling, we also have record wages levels in the country fuelling inflation We have significantly reduced our capacity in recent years, due to safety review. We sold out our final game against Bolton last season, the attendance was 10,086. I believe we also sold out our first two home games, FGR & Oxford, with 9,064 and 8,297 the recorded attendances. Not sure if we sold out others. If comparing to DC 2016-17 season, we had 11.2k against Coventry, and 11.7k against Millwall. 10.5k against Swindon. At least 3 other 10k+ attendances. Figures that it seems the stadium can't satisfy now even if the demand is there, which it seems it was last season. For this reason the comparisons you're making aren't really possible to make. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 6, 2023 15:22:24 GMT
I don't recall calling you anything Lol, nay balls. Is that English? Anyway.... |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Oct 6, 2023 15:32:29 GMT
You two don’t force it down peoples throats and have customers and sponsors to appease! Yes but should the club ban us for our views and reimburse my ST. Difficult to comment without knowing what those views were. |
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