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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 18:26:44 GMT
We all seem to turn into nasty bits of work when we’re losing games. When the government does sh** we question it, when the trains are late we question why, when there are pot holes we question why………when the manager tells everyone we are going for promotion and we are 18th in the league, we are now nasty for questioning why he is so far off his prediction?! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2023 18:43:43 GMT
My mistake re Marquis, hands up 🙌🏼 Re JCH, we bid for the Charlton lad before the Kuwaiti’s came in, where was our 2nd, 3rd, 4th choice? And other sides like the one up here signed two very good free transfer signings. You mention JCH Topper as well, he was our 4th window, where are the strikers from the previous three windows? Manning has had only ONE window Did you go to Peterborough Topper? JCH isn’t the player we used to know, he’s bulked up and less mobile, he doesn’t press either which Barton loves, he wasn’t the answer to all our problems and where is the depth of he got injured? We've no real idea of the 2nd etc choice of all the players we signed this summer, one thing the new set up do manage is keep their cards close to their chests. The strikers last season, from memory were JM & Loft, unfortunately the latter never really stepped up to L1 football although until he was injured at Sheffield he looked like he might make the step up. As a club in recent times we seem to have difficulties in signing quality CF's. JCH still managed over 30 goals last season and he could well now just be going though the motions, I can't recall many posters on the JCH thread saying that they hoped he didn't sign, the back up would have been JM, who knows Martin might have always been lined up as a free agent signing as back up. Didn't Pirate(?) suggest Rodriquez was looking for mega bucks? We all know free players aren't cheap signings, Lockyer no doubt got a decent signing on fee after he left us on a free. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Oct 23, 2023 18:51:56 GMT
Lets be honest there's an overreaction after pretty much every game either we're crap & everything needs to be ripped up & we start again or we're brilliant and the championship awaits !!
The reality is somewhere in between and I guess the whole JB in or out debate depends on your expectations. JB raised them with both his comments & the recruitment so imo he has to be judged against a play off push, however I don't believe that should come after 12 games. We've played less than a lot of teams so win our game in hand and things look different. I know some will say we might not win it but I'd wager there's more chance of that happening than Wigan or Reading getting their deducted points back & I've seen plenty of posts using that as a reason we're lower than we actually are.
The next month will tell us a lot, if come Dec we're still lower mid table then there's an argument for making a change & giving a new manager the Jan window, personally I think we'll be higher than that but time will tell
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Post by gulfofaden on Oct 23, 2023 19:19:25 GMT
We all seem to turn into nasty bits of work when we’re losing games. When the government does sh** we question it, when the trains are late we question why, when there are pot holes we question why………when the manager tells everyone we are going for promotion and we are 18th in the league, we are now nasty for questioning why he is so far off his prediction?! All managers say they want promotion. Only a few clubs manage it. Currently we aren’t but have played some good football. Lee Johnson said Europe in 5 years. Joey was scoffed at for predicting promotion when we were about the same league position in league 2. You would have had him out there. Who knows what the rest of the season has in store? I would rather JBs project work out than yet another 2 seasons of assembling a new squad. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2023 19:35:07 GMT
When the government does sh** we question it, when the trains are late we question why, when there are pot holes we question why………when the manager tells everyone we are going for promotion and we are 18th in the league, we are now nasty for questioning why he is so far off his prediction?! All managers say they want promotion. Only a few clubs manage it. Currently we aren’t but have played some good football.
Lee Johnson said Europe in 5 years. Joey was scoffed at for predicting promotion when we were about the same league position in league 2. You would have had him out there. Who knows what the rest of the season has in store? I would rather JBs project work out than yet another 2 seasons of assembling a new squad. Unfortunately the league table is based on points won not the quality of the football.The football under GC was mainly poor but he got results, what we need is a happy medium reasonable football and decent results. The team to me looks far too "soft" to achieve that. What's the betting if Stevenage can keep 11 men on the pitch tomorrow then they'll bully us for most of the game? |
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Post by socrates on Oct 23, 2023 20:50:21 GMT
It's only an overreaction if you look at it as a small window of time (in GGMIs example, 2 games!). But even then, if you look at just this season it only tells part of the story. Yes you can make reasonable excuses (new season, new team etc.), but the FACTS are that this dire run of form has been going on for almost an entire year. At the end of the day, the camp you sit in will largely be determined by where you draw that line in the sand; if you draw it from the start of the season or - maybe the last couple of games - you're likely prepared to give him time. If you see it as starting further back, then you've likely already seen enough, or are close to having seen enough. Either is fine - opinions are what it's all about. But we certainly cannot state "it's an overreaction" as some kind of factual statement when, quite clearly, it's not that simple. I think with JB (perhaps more so than any manager I can remember) there is an element of the fanbase (not all, but some) that will forgive him no matter what. I.e., no matter how bad the form got, how long it lasted or even what he did off the field, all would be forgiven. As such, I don't think we'll ever find common ground. He's a very polarising figure and, as I say, there is an element of hardcore support for the man that simply will not waver regardless. Well said. In all this I have not spoken to any fan who does not want us to win every game, contrary to some of the ridiculous statements from some on here. For me, my view, this all started with the very public dressing down of Belshaw and the undermining of his position as first choice. But nearly a year later here we are. Another public dressing down (Thomas), still 17th. Another heavy defeat. Yeah I agree it started around then. My opinion of Barton as our manager declined massively that Christmas week and we’ve been on a downward spiral ever since on the pitch. I’m not saying he’s lost the dressing room , lots of new players in and out since then , perhaps it’s just coincidence but we have generally been crap for about 10 months now. This season we’ve only lost one more than weve won I think so the that would suggest it’s not time for panicking just yet but when taking in to account the summer signings and the dreadful slow tempo football we’re playing and combining that with the second half of last season it really has been a miserable year so far supporting the Gas. The next two games are massive because they’re both at home and both v sides that were playing league 2 football last season. If we can pick up 4+ points from those two then it’d keep us mid table , not great but not the end of the world. Any less and I think more and more fans including me will be thinking along the lines of Barton not taking us forwards but more like backwards. Personally I think he’s holding back a decent squad with tactics that don’t suit the squad that he’s built and most importantly don’t suit the division that we’re playing in. In my 40 years watching the Rovers I can’t remember a league 1 side playing slow patient possession based football successfully. Successfull league 1 sides mix it up and are fast and powerful they don’t dick about with the ball at a snails pace like we generally do. It isn’t working it isn’t going to work and the times this season that we’ve played well and won we’ve scrapped the slow game and gone for the jugular with a quicker tempo. The Wigan , Port vale and the second Half v shrews being good examples.( the first half v shrews was some of the slowest awful football we’ve played all season and could have been 2or 3 down if they’d finished well) If the board do decide to sack him then timing is massive , no point in waiting for the window to shut and then do it , I think Barton should have until Christmas to get us to mid table minimum or he should be gone. It Wouldn’t be an overreaction and probably justified in my opinion. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2023 20:59:30 GMT
"If the board do decide to sack him then timing is massive , no point in waiting for the window to shut and then do it , I think Barton should have until Christmas to get us to mid table minimum or he should be gone."
If they give him Christmas then sack him by the time the new manager is appointed the window will be virtually closing, unless they've somebody lined up to take over as soon as he departs? Don't forget EJ deals with all the recruitment for JB so the club will need to appoint a DoF/Hof as well as manager.
The next 3 homes games are crucial as they are followed by 3 away games,if we fail to do well in those home games we're not going to suddenly start winning away games.
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Post by socrates on Oct 23, 2023 20:59:36 GMT
It's only an overreaction if you look at it as a small window of time (in GGMIs example, 2 games!). But even then, if you look at just this season it only tells part of the story. Yes you can make reasonable excuses (new season, new team etc.), but the FACTS are that this dire run of form has been going on for almost an entire year. At the end of the day, the camp you sit in will largely be determined by where you draw that line in the sand; if you draw it from the start of the season or - maybe the last couple of games - you're likely prepared to give him time. If you see it as starting further back, then you've likely already seen enough, or are close to having seen enough. Either is fine - opinions are what it's all about. But we certainly cannot state "it's an overreaction" as some kind of factual statement when, quite clearly, it's not that simple. I think with JB (perhaps more so than any manager I can remember) there is an element of the fanbase (not all, but some) that will forgive him no matter what. I.e., no matter how bad the form got, how long it lasted or even what he did off the field, all would be forgiven. As such, I don't think we'll ever find common ground. He's a very polarising figure and, as I say, there is an element of hardcore support for the man that simply will not waver regardless. I think part of the reason he’s being given a bit more slack by fans is that although we’ve had a pretty poor start to the season, we’ve also looked the best side in most games we’ve played. Previous poor runs we’ve had we’ve lost games and looked like we deserved to lose them. Think lots of fans are waiting & hoping for things to click this time …. I’m in that camp as I think we’ve got a good set of players. But….. it’s gotta start pretty damn soon as you can only go on being ‘unlucky’ for so long. It’s a results business and we need to start getting some quickly ! Have we looked the best side though ? The best sides are clinical in both boxes. The games we’ve had 65% + possession have mostly been the games we’ve drawn or lost. Possession doesn’t win you football matches in league 1. Reading had more possession than Charlton on Saturday and got smashed 4-0, derby had 70% possession away to shrews and lost 1-0. Exeter had 72% possession at home to Wigan and lost 0-2. I watched Pompey absolutely smash Orient last month 4-0 and Orient had more possession. Lower league managers are losing the plot over possession because they want their teams to be like Man City. It’s embarrassing. And unfortunately our manager is one of them. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Oct 23, 2023 21:16:47 GMT
Theirs only one man who raised expectations,and sadly at the moment he's not really delivering. Our fanbase must be one of the most laid back of any,for the size of the club. Not that long ago west ham were kicking off against their club. About time we got abit more vocal,we really should be doing better. West Ham fans certainly were vocal and wanted there manager sacked saying his football was dire and form inconsistent. Good job for them that there board stood firm and gave him time as now look at what he has achieved. It's so easy to just say sack the manager I wish it was that simple that a new man will come in and change our fortunes. Let's be honest here who are we going to attract that could do that we are not an attractive proposition to many and unless you are prepared to spend stupid amounts to get someone here we will end up going backwards. I remember Mark Robins got loads of abuse from Coventry fans especially when they were in league 2 but they gave him time to build something and now look at them challening for the Premiership. Will JB be a success here who knows I haven't got a crystal ball but I'm willing to stay patient and see where this goes as stated before some of the football we play has been the best I have seen in the 30+ years I have enjoyed watching the Gas. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2023 21:31:58 GMT
I think part of the reason he’s being given a bit more slack by fans is that although we’ve had a pretty poor start to the season, we’ve also looked the best side in most games we’ve played. Previous poor runs we’ve had we’ve lost games and looked like we deserved to lose them. Think lots of fans are waiting & hoping for things to click this time …. I’m in that camp as I think we’ve got a good set of players. But….. it’s gotta start pretty damn soon as you can only go on being ‘unlucky’ for so long. It’s a results business and we need to start getting some quickly ! Have we looked the best side though ? The best sides are clinical in both boxes. The games we’ve had 65% + possession have mostly been the games we’ve drawn or lost. Possession doesn’t win you football matches in league 1. Reading had more possession than Charlton on Saturday and got smashed 4-0, derby had 70% possession away to shrews and lost 1-0. Exeter had 72% possession at home to Wigan and lost 0-2. I watched Pompey absolutely smash Orient last month 4-0 and Orient had more possession. Lower league managers are losing the plot over possession because they want their teams to be like Man City. It’s embarrassing. And unfortunately our manager is one of them. The only hope is JB will realise his mistake before it's too late. You have to fear Stevenage will be content to let us keep the ball tomorrow night. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 21:37:18 GMT
I think part of the reason he’s being given a bit more slack by fans is that although we’ve had a pretty poor start to the season, we’ve also looked the best side in most games we’ve played. Previous poor runs we’ve had we’ve lost games and looked like we deserved to lose them. Think lots of fans are waiting & hoping for things to click this time …. I’m in that camp as I think we’ve got a good set of players. But….. it’s gotta start pretty damn soon as you can only go on being ‘unlucky’ for so long. It’s a results business and we need to start getting some quickly ! Have we looked the best side though ? The best sides are clinical in both boxes. The games we’ve had 65% + possession have mostly been the games we’ve drawn or lost. Possession doesn’t win you football matches in league 1. Reading had more possession than Charlton on Saturday and got smashed 4-0, derby had 70% possession away to shrews and lost 1-0. Exeter had 72% possession at home to Wigan and lost 0-2. I watched Pompey absolutely smash Orient last month 4-0 and Orient had more possession. Lower league managers are losing the plot over possession because they want their teams to be like Man City. It’s embarrassing. And unfortunately our manager is one of them. As I’ve said elsewhere, I suspect that some teams are letting us have the ball as it’s become apparently we are currently struggling to break sides down and make use of the possession we have. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 21:50:27 GMT
Theirs only one man who raised expectations,and sadly at the moment he's not really delivering. Our fanbase must be one of the most laid back of any,for the size of the club. Not that long ago west ham were kicking off against their club. About time we got abit more vocal,we really should be doing better. West Ham fans certainly were vocal and wanted there manager sacked saying his football was dire and form inconsistent. Good job for them that there board stood firm and gave him time as now look at what he has achieved. It's so easy to just say sack the manager I wish it was that simple that a new man will come in and change our fortunes. Let's be honest here who are we going to attract that could do that we are not an attractive proposition to many and unless you are prepared to spend stupid amounts to get someone here we will end up going backwards. I remember Mark Robins got loads of abuse from Coventry fans especially when they were in league 2 but they gave him time to build something and now look at them challening for the Premiership. Will JB be a success here who knows I haven't got a crystal ball but I'm willing to stay patient and see where this goes as stated before some of the football we play has been the best I have seen in the 30+ years I have enjoyed watching the Gas. Bridgey, but we are averaging 1.17 points a game or something in Div1 with Barton and until a couple of weeks ago, it was our first time we had won at home and won by more than two goal as since our 7-0, we went a whole season at home without winning by 2 clear goals………where is this myth coming from that that football is great to watch? Have people forgotten about Matty Taylor winning the golden boot, Bodin having people on toast?! And you mention 30 years support, Disley and Campbell pressed as good as this lot, Lambert link up play and goals incredible. And I’m sorry, this lot doesn’t come anywhere the Latvian, Walters, Curo, Roberts, Ellington, my memory doesn’t allow me to forget the 6-0 at the Madejski, or the 4-1 at the Britannia Stadium, both opened for first time those seasons. Barton had spun it so much that people are actually spouting it now, 17th last season, 18th currently, is there any other fan base in the country wax lyrical about the football they are watching in these league positions? I’m starting to think this forum getting like Trump supporters and MAGA, we are starting to believe this crap he keeps pumping out. “The club is in a better place today” how is it Joey, you go you take the DOF with you, we are losing £3.2 million a year for your sort out, worse injuries than Garner now, worst discipline for years, it’s Barton Trump! |
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Post by socrates on Oct 23, 2023 22:00:08 GMT
Have we looked the best side though ? The best sides are clinical in both boxes. The games we’ve had 65% + possession have mostly been the games we’ve drawn or lost. Possession doesn’t win you football matches in league 1. Reading had more possession than Charlton on Saturday and got smashed 4-0, derby had 70% possession away to shrews and lost 1-0. Exeter had 72% possession at home to Wigan and lost 0-2. I watched Pompey absolutely smash Orient last month 4-0 and Orient had more possession. Lower league managers are losing the plot over possession because they want their teams to be like Man City. It’s embarrassing. And unfortunately our manager is one of them. As I’ve said elsewhere, I suspect that some teams are letting us have the ball as it’s become apparently we are currently struggling to break sides down and make use of the possession we have. Agreed and I think that those teams have managers who understand what works in league 1. They’re not under any false senses of grandeur, they know their players , what they’re capable of and understand the division and what it takes to be successful. Barton has attracted the kind of calibre of player that in the past we simply haven’t been able to get but rarely seems to be able to put a team together on match day to get us winning matches in league 1. Even in league 2 we were awful for the first half of the season playing the same kind of football we are now unsuccessfully. I want him to do well I really do because that means we’re doing well , the last thing I want is for us to have to sack our manager because that means we’re underachieving or perhaps if things really go south in the next few games facing a relegation scrap but he needs to pull his finger out, watch what’s happening , take it in , watch replays of the games this season when we’ve been on the front foot played the ball quicker and won,Swallow his pride and stop talking about top players and top sides in his interviews and how we can be like that , show the squad the videos of our good performances v our high possession and defeat performances. we have enough in our squad to do good things this season but we won’t trying to play like mancity , Brighton , arsenal.etc. If Barton wants to manage a top club one day and play football like that fine but he don’t get there with his current mindset in league 1. He’s trying to run before he can walk. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 22:02:52 GMT
Theirs only one man who raised expectations,and sadly at the moment he's not really delivering. Our fanbase must be one of the most laid back of any,for the size of the club. Not that long ago west ham were kicking off against their club. About time we got abit more vocal,we really should be doing better. West Ham fans certainly were vocal and wanted there manager sacked saying his football was dire and form inconsistent. Good job for them that there board stood firm and gave him time as now look at what he has achieved. It's so easy to just say sack the manager I wish it was that simple that a new man will come in and change our fortunes. Let's be honest here who are we going to attract that could do that we are not an attractive proposition to many and unless you are prepared to spend stupid amounts to get someone here we will end up going backwards. I remember Mark Robins got loads of abuse from Coventry fans especially when they were in league 2 but they gave him time to build something and now look at them challening for the Premiership. Will JB be a success here who knows I haven't got a crystal ball but I'm willing to stay patient and see where this goes as stated before some of the football we play has been the best I have seen in the 30+ years I have enjoyed watching the Gas. Coventry weren’t outside of the top 10 all season in league 2 (Robbins first season) then finished 8th in league 1 then won the title. Are you sure that they gave him loads of abuse? |
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Post by socrates on Oct 23, 2023 22:04:21 GMT
West Ham fans certainly were vocal and wanted there manager sacked saying his football was dire and form inconsistent. Good job for them that there board stood firm and gave him time as now look at what he has achieved. It's so easy to just say sack the manager I wish it was that simple that a new man will come in and change our fortunes. Let's be honest here who are we going to attract that could do that we are not an attractive proposition to many and unless you are prepared to spend stupid amounts to get someone here we will end up going backwards. I remember Mark Robins got loads of abuse from Coventry fans especially when they were in league 2 but they gave him time to build something and now look at them challening for the Premiership. Will JB be a success here who knows I haven't got a crystal ball but I'm willing to stay patient and see where this goes as stated before some of the football we play has been the best I have seen in the 30+ years I have enjoyed watching the Gas. Bridgey, but we are averaging 1.17 points a game or something in Div1 with Barton and until a couple of weeks ago, it was our first time we had won at home and won by more than two goal as since our 7-0, we went a whole season at home without winning by 2 clear goals………where is this myth coming from that that football is great to watch? Have people forgotten about Matty Taylor winning the golden boot, Bodin having people on toast?! And you mention 30 years support, Disley and Campbell pressed as good as this lot, Lambert link up play and goals incredible. And I’m sorry, this lot doesn’t come anywhere the Latvian, Walters, Curo, Roberts, Ellington, my memory doesn’t allow me to forget the 6-0 at the Madejski, or the 4-0 at the Britannia Stadium, both opened for first time those seasons. Barton had spun it so much that people are actually spouting it now, 17th last season, 18th currently, is there any other fan base in the country wax lyrical about the football they are watching in these league positions? I’m starting to think this forum getting like Trump supporters and MAGA, we are starting to believe this crap he keeps pumping out. “The club is in a better place today” how is it Joey, you go you take the DOF with you, we are losing £3.2 million a year for your sort out, worse injuries than Garner now, worst discipline for years, it’s Barton Trump! You’re right it is a myth. The football currently is not good it’s slow. The sides you mentioned were quality to watch , unfortunately we always sold our best players before we could win promotion. These days we’re perhaps not in a position where we have to sell but we’re wasting our squad on crap tactics. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 22:04:53 GMT
As I’ve said elsewhere, I suspect that some teams are letting us have the ball as it’s become apparently we are currently struggling to break sides down and make use of the possession we have. Agreed and I think that those teams have managers who understand what works in league 1. They’re not under any false senses of grandeur, they know their players , what they’re capable of and understand the division and what it takes to be successful. Barton has attracted the kind of calibre of player that in the past we simply haven’t been able to get but rarely seems to be able to put a team together on match day to get us winning matches in league 1. Even in league 2 we were awful for the first half of the season playing the same kind of football we are now unsuccessfully. I want him to do well I really do because that means we’re doing well , the last thing I want is for us to have to sack our manager because that means we’re underachieving or perhaps if things really go south in the next few games facing a relegation scrap but he needs to pull his finger out, watch what’s happening , take it in , watch replays of the games this season when we’ve been on the front foot played the ball quicker and won,Swallow his pride and stop talking about top players and top sides in his interviews and how we can be like that , show the squad the videos of our good performances v our high possession and defeat performances. we have enough in our squad to do good things this season but we won’t trying to play like mancity , Brighton , arsenal.etc. If Barton wants to manage a top club one day and play football like that fine but he don’t get there with his current mindset in league 1. He’s trying to run before he can walk. I think you make brilliant points and it’s hard for anyone to argue with them. Nothing wrong with playing the type of football we do but there’s a time and a place. The best sides can mix it up when they need to (have a plan B) I’m not sure we have one |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 22:05:50 GMT
Bridgey, but we are averaging 1.17 points a game or something in Div1 with Barton and until a couple of weeks ago, it was our first time we had won at home and won by more than two goal as since our 7-0, we went a whole season at home without winning by 2 clear goals………where is this myth coming from that that football is great to watch? Have people forgotten about Matty Taylor winning the golden boot, Bodin having people on toast?! And you mention 30 years support, Disley and Campbell pressed as good as this lot, Lambert link up play and goals incredible. And I’m sorry, this lot doesn’t come anywhere the Latvian, Walters, Curo, Roberts, Ellington, my memory doesn’t allow me to forget the 6-0 at the Madejski, or the 4-0 at the Britannia Stadium, both opened for first time those seasons. Barton had spun it so much that people are actually spouting it now, 17th last season, 18th currently, is there any other fan base in the country wax lyrical about the football they are watching in these league positions? I’m starting to think this forum getting like Trump supporters and MAGA, we are starting to believe this crap he keeps pumping out. “The club is in a better place today” how is it Joey, you go you take the DOF with you, we are losing £3.2 million a year for your sort out, worse injuries than Garner now, worst discipline for years, it’s Barton Trump! You’re right it is a myth. The football currently is not good it’s slow. The sides you mentioned were quality to watch , unfortunately we always sold our best players before we could win promotion. These days we’re perhaps not in a position where we have to sell but we’re wasting our squad on crap tactics. Have we really got anyone to sell? I suspect someone may take Collins if he was available at a cut price (not saying he would be) and that’s about it? |
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Post by socrates on Oct 23, 2023 22:11:02 GMT
You’re right it is a myth. The football currently is not good it’s slow. The sides you mentioned were quality to watch , unfortunately we always sold our best players before we could win promotion. These days we’re perhaps not in a position where we have to sell but we’re wasting our squad on crap tactics. Have we really got anyone to sell? I suspect someone may take Collins if he was available at a cut price (not saying he would be) and that’s about it? Collins always looks good when we play quickly and feed it into the channels but goes missing when we’re tapping it around at the back. I think he’ll put in a transfer request in January if Barton still has us mostly playing this way and I wouldn’t blame him. I would. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Oct 24, 2023 8:33:31 GMT
West Ham fans certainly were vocal and wanted there manager sacked saying his football was dire and form inconsistent. Good job for them that there board stood firm and gave him time as now look at what he has achieved. It's so easy to just say sack the manager I wish it was that simple that a new man will come in and change our fortunes. Let's be honest here who are we going to attract that could do that we are not an attractive proposition to many and unless you are prepared to spend stupid amounts to get someone here we will end up going backwards. I remember Mark Robins got loads of abuse from Coventry fans especially when they were in league 2 but they gave him time to build something and now look at them challening for the Premiership. Will JB be a success here who knows I haven't got a crystal ball but I'm willing to stay patient and see where this goes as stated before some of the football we play has been the best I have seen in the 30+ years I have enjoyed watching the Gas. Coventry weren’t outside of the top 10 all season in league 2 (Robbins first season) then finished 8th in league 1 then won the title. Are you sure that they gave him loads of abuse? Totally sure they did. Alot wanted him gone. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2023 8:45:16 GMT
Well I will give it you Bridgey and take your word on it, they are idiots then for wanting a manager out who gave them an 8th place finish. We have fans saying it’s the best football they’ve seen in 30 years with us finishing 17th and 18th 😂🤷🏼♂️
You did say I need tablets, happy to go halves mate?!
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