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Post by gasman on Oct 28, 2023 17:51:28 GMT
With a full redevelopment on the cards by the sounds of it by the new owners I can just imagine how the locals with be chuffed to bits as they wanted to keep the ground as a sporting venue
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Post by gasonthemount on Oct 28, 2023 17:54:11 GMT
And we remain forever Tinpot. Gold plated tin pot now, bring it on. Better than doing nothing and always dreaming of that new stadium which never happens. |
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Post by xenongas on Oct 28, 2023 18:02:16 GMT
New site = brand new full stadium.
Current site = redevelopment, meaning it can't be torn down and replaced. Needs to be done piecemeal as we haven't got the luxury of a spurs (Wembley) temporary option.
Also, what is the lifespan of temp vs perm for stands out of interest?
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Post by gas1967 on Oct 28, 2023 18:05:05 GMT
Me too but that's what the owner said in the interview, so that is what will be happening, planning permission granted of course.  Cheapskates. Not as rich as we had hoped obviously. Not a good idea. Whilst in a way I agree with you, look at it from a different angle! My favourite stadium in the uk is craven cottage. I still think Wael has a say but maybe just maybe doing a stand a year is the way to go. What interested me was even more work to the training ground. Could it be that area could host a stadium? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 28, 2023 18:08:22 GMT
New site = brand new full stadium. Current site = redevelopment, meaning it can't be torn down and replaced. Needs to be done piecemeal as we haven't got the luxury of a spurs (Wembley) temporary option. Also, what is the lifespan of temp vs perm for stands out of interest? Looking at the South Stand you sense it could last 50 plus years? Although the East Stand is a different beast as you can't replace that with just a temporary stand, unless you just tagged new stands of both ends, then you still have the issues of the uncovered terracing to resolve. |
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Post by xenongas on Oct 28, 2023 18:14:12 GMT
New site = brand new full stadium. Current site = redevelopment, meaning it can't be torn down and replaced. Needs to be done piecemeal as we haven't got the luxury of a spurs (Wembley) temporary option. Also, what is the lifespan of temp vs perm for stands out of interest? Looking at the South Stand you sense it could last 50 plus years? Although the East Stand is a different beast as you can't replace that with just a temporary stand, unless you just tagged new stands of both ends, then you still have the issues of the uncovered terracing to resolve. That's why I'd like to hear from someone who knows. South stand looks like a proper stand to me but I know nothing about construction. If done bit by bit you can offset the loss of seats by redevelopment. Same as most redevelopments (albeit with more infrastructure in place already like Anfield, Old Trafford, etc). |
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Post by syg on Oct 28, 2023 18:18:30 GMT
If they do it well it will be cracking stadium.
All these new stadia are like something out of IKEA, same basic design, same acoustics, same concourses, same seat spacing all for the mass consuming womble.
Let's have a nice mix of new, old, stands, seating, different sizes, little symmetry, get all the gaps filled in and better conditions for the away fans.
A place that fans enjoy for it's idiosyncratic nature, the last of which I visited was the Dell.
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Post by badengas on Oct 28, 2023 18:20:30 GMT
When he said the East stand he then said North & South parts so does that mean we will only develop the two open ends of the East stand and keep the main stand as it is? Better than what he have but will still be a bit part stadium and far from what we have all hoped for. Yep , polishing a turd . Yes, but it's our turd. |
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Post by gasheadpirate on Oct 28, 2023 18:24:03 GMT
If they do it well it will be cracking stadium. All these new stadia are like something out of IKEA, same basic design, same acoustics, same concourses, same seat spacing all for the mass consuming womble. Let's have a nice mix of new, old, stands, seating, different sizes, little symmetry, get all the gaps filled in and better conditions for the away fans. A place that fans enjoy for it's idiosyncratic nature, the last of which I visited was the Dell. First match I saw Rovers was at the Dell as my Dad supported Saints. It was the season Saints got promoted to Div 1 and they beat Rovers 3-1. Bobby Gould played for Rovers. Went to the Dell quite a few times as friends were Saints fans. Great atmosphere. |
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Post by gasheadpirate on Oct 28, 2023 18:25:09 GMT
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Oct 28, 2023 18:34:03 GMT
When he said the East stand he then said North & South parts so does that mean we will only develop the two open ends of the East stand and keep the main stand as it is? Better than what he have but will still be a bit part stadium and far from what we have all hoped for. That would look abysmal imo. That monstrosity wants flattening. Should be rebuilt containing changing rooms and exec boxes so there would be no disruption if West Stand gets done. I appreciate the East Stand is our biggest money maker but it is an abomination. A new stand wouldn't need to be anywhere near as high so any worries from neighbours about light being blocked shouldn't be a problem. |
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Post by CostaBlancaGas on Oct 28, 2023 18:36:17 GMT
Is there a link on here to the interview?
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Post by walterwhite on Oct 28, 2023 18:47:11 GMT
Other clubs have made new stands throughout a on going season heck were doing it now, if they do demolish the east entirely which I'm sure they will and make it full length with better hospitality it will be in there interest to do it right and make fans want to go there and spend the dosh, being business men which they are I'm sure alot of thought and planning will go into it
UTG
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 28, 2023 18:47:12 GMT
When he said the East stand he then said North & South parts so does that mean we will only develop the two open ends of the East stand and keep the main stand as it is? Better than what he have but will still be a bit part stadium and far from what we have all hoped for. That would look abysmal imo. That monstrosity wants flattening. Should be rebuilt containing changing rooms and exec boxes so there would be no disruption if West Stand gets done. I appreciate the East Stand is our biggest money maker but it is an abomination. A new stand wouldn't need to be anywhere near as high so any worries from neighbours about light being blocked shouldn't be a problem. Exactly. Just adding bits on doesn’t do anything long term. I get it’ll cost money but this should be the one stand the development should be based on. Hospitality, changing room etc and by far the biggest of the four. |
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Post by biggles on Oct 28, 2023 18:51:42 GMT
i will believe it when i see it!
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Post by aghast on Oct 28, 2023 18:53:25 GMT
Sounds like a more realistic plan. If we can develop the three sides then eventually the West Stand will need to be done as well. Will be nice to have some certainty after decades without it. I, personally, like the idea of a re-developed Mem. The footprint is big enough for us. Be nice if we could get parking in as well somehow. (No idea how that happens). As for extra income I don't see why we can't have a hotel/conference rooms etc and other events. Concerts are given with restrictions - those at Ashton Gate have cut off times to allow time to empty and clear the area so why couldn't we do the same? This has been discussed before. No reason if the stadium can host evening and weekend matches with up to 10,000 people flooding in and out that it can't stage concerts for a similar number, either evenings to finish by 10pm, like the football, or on weekend non-match days. Of course there will be objections, but these will be rather weak since it's already an entertainment venue. Sort of. There will probably be tight restrictions on the number of events, but the stadium lies idle from May to August which happily is the peak time for concerts. |
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Post by wallywalters on Oct 28, 2023 18:54:36 GMT
Just listened to the interview back and he definitely says the south end of the east first then north end of the east stand or something along those lines. I think a pretty strong inference can be made that it's just filing in the gaps from that which will be very disappointing if correct.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Oct 28, 2023 18:58:56 GMT
Guys, Please stop worrying what it will be like, once its done it will be significantly better than anything we have had before. Ok it won't be quite as great as having one built from scratch but with what we have put up with for nearly our entire history it will do for me.
Just glad it is officially out in the open at last.
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Post by craigo on Oct 28, 2023 18:59:17 GMT
Just listened to the interview back and he definitely says the south end of the east first then north end of the east stand or something along those lines. I think a pretty strong inference can be made that it's just filing in the gaps from that which will be very disappointing if correct. Exactly this, literally polishing the turd, last chance of a new stadium in Bristol gone, little to no chance of any major investment now, and people saying good news, wtf. |
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Post by singupgas on Oct 28, 2023 18:59:54 GMT
Yet another stadium failure. I don't really support the rebuild of the Mem as it will never provide the capacity or income streams on non-matchdays as a purpose built new stadium. However, as there is nothing else on the table, there appears to be little choice. We will, however, be restricting ourselves to top league one to bottom of the championship I fear, though that is better than we have had for 30 years! I agree with this. I would love to be surprised. I really want to see what the plans are for the Mem. Surely with a decision being made that the FM is a no go, this would be well covered already?? Fans should be asking when plans will be available. My feeling is that we still got be looking at 20k, we do not need a big car park...the east stand could be much bigger. Anything too small then it is limiting for our future. The club must push the boundaries. I'm prepared to be disappointed, but would rather not be. |
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