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Post by Gasshole on Jan 1, 2024 3:02:08 GMT
Roof wouldn't cover the terracing/seats at the front of the stand. Might as well build a completely new stand. I love the idea of a designer explaining their inspiration for the design as... Tesco's in Yate.
Magfkinificent, surely the best Tesco’s in England. Went in here a few times on my last visit home, naturally I stopped in the Spoons and Gregg’s on my way , for the hatty. |
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Post by amgas on Jan 1, 2024 16:06:42 GMT
This thread seems to confirm what I have always thought - no sense in doing half a job on the East until after the North is sorted..... Better return in adding seats and less impact on hospitality by rebuilding north.
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 1, 2024 23:43:18 GMT
This thread seems to confirm what I have always thought - no sense in doing half a job on the East until after the North is sorted..... Better return in adding seats and less impact on hospitality by rebuilding north.
East Stand STHs could be moved to the South stand. Put all the building budget towards a proper new East stand. Leave Thatchers terrace as it is until sometime in the future. |
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Post by Gasshole on Jan 2, 2024 1:56:26 GMT
I would make the Thatchers terrace bigger. Even if we got to the Championship I wouldn’t envisage us staying there for more than 3 years anyway.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 3, 2024 13:43:23 GMT
I would make the Thatchers terrace bigger. Even if we got to the Championship I wouldn’t envisage us staying there for more than 3 years anyway. Agree it will be some time before we are made to go all-seater. I like Exeter's big bank. Full and rocking that would be great in BS7...colour might need to be changed though!  |
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Post by Beer Baron on Jan 3, 2024 14:57:45 GMT
Went to the London Stadium last night to watch West Ham v Brighton, shame Paqueta and Kudus were both absent as it was a rubbish game.
The most notable thing I noticed, in contrast to the Mem, was how well organised the access into and away from the stadium was and the number of turnstiles. I think before charging ahead with any further increases in capacity this issue will need to be looked at, as it's bad enough now with sub 9000 attendances.
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 3, 2024 15:13:57 GMT
It's interesting that when redevelopments are discussed it's always English ones. Personally I'd be looking at redevelopments of old stadiums like the Erzgebirgsstadion and Ernst-Abbe-Sportfeld...   |
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Post by greciangas on Jan 3, 2024 16:06:47 GMT
I would make the Thatchers terrace bigger. Even if we got to the Championship I wouldn’t envisage us staying there for more than 3 years anyway. Agree it will be some time before we are made to go all-seater. I like Exeter's big bank. Full and rocking that would be great in BS7...colour might need to be changed though! |
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Post by greciangas on Jan 3, 2024 16:12:02 GMT
Agree it will be some time before we are made to go all-seater. I like Exeter's big bank. Full and rocking that would be great in BS7...colour might need to be changed though! The Big Bank! but 'big regret' that we did it on the cheap and didnt include any facilities underneath. some small refreshments and bogs at the back and down in the corner. Great terrace mind! |
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Post by buktaboy on Jan 3, 2024 16:14:07 GMT
It's interesting that when redevelopments are discussed it's always English ones. Personally I'd be looking at redevelopments of old stadiums like the Erzgebirgsstadion and Ernst-Abbe-Sportfeld... Those both look great, particularly the top one. Sadly don't think we have any chance of anything similar being built at the Mem, it'll be more makeshift Meccano stands. |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Jan 3, 2024 16:24:07 GMT
Went to the London Stadium last night to watch West Ham v Brighton, shame Paqueta and Kudus were both absent as it was a rubbish game. The most notable thing I noticed, in contrast to the Mem, was how well organised the access into and away from the stadium was and the number of turnstiles. I think before charging ahead with any further increases in capacity this issue will need to be looked at, as it's bad enough now with sub 9000 attendances. The London stadium was our jewel in the crown for the Olympics. I'd be disappointed if if didn't have decent facilities. That's what you get for £500m. Current lease to West Ham has it well under its original capacity. Does anyone know why? |
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Post by Beer Baron on Jan 3, 2024 18:19:06 GMT
Went to the London Stadium last night to watch West Ham v Brighton, shame Paqueta and Kudus were both absent as it was a rubbish game. The most notable thing I noticed, in contrast to the Mem, was how well organised the access into and away from the stadium was and the number of turnstiles. I think before charging ahead with any further increases in capacity this issue will need to be looked at, as it's bad enough now with sub 9000 attendances. The London stadium was our jewel in the crown for the Olympics. I'd be disappointed if if didn't have decent facilities. That's what you get for £500m. Current lease to West Ham has it well under its original capacity. Does anyone know why? I'm not sure but the atmosphere in the stadium was awful, horrible stadium for football. |
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Post by Gassy on Jan 3, 2024 18:39:27 GMT
The London stadium was our jewel in the crown for the Olympics. I'd be disappointed if if didn't have decent facilities. That's what you get for £500m. Current lease to West Ham has it well under its original capacity. Does anyone know why? I'm not sure but the atmosphere in the stadium was awful, horrible stadium for football. I find atmosphere blaming on stadiums just an excuse tbh. I used to think the same for West Ham until I went last season Vs Man Utd and it was one of the best atmospheres I’ve been to. I’ve thought the same about Wembley a few times too, until I saw Grimsby play us. As well as seeing England beat Germany, Denmark etc and suddenly you realise it is possible to create an atmosphere there. Turns out people need to actually sing. Who knew? |
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 3, 2024 18:40:55 GMT
I'm not sure but the atmosphere in the stadium was awful, horrible stadium for football. I find atmosphere blaming on stadiums just an excuse tbh. I used to think the same for West Ham until I went last season Vs Man Utd and it was one of the best atmospheres I’ve been to. I’ve thought the same about Wembley a few times too, until I saw Grimsby play us. As well as seeing England beat Germany, Denmark etc and suddenly you realise it is possible to create an atmosphere there. Turns out people need to actually sing. Who knew? Yeah I’m with you on that Gassy, fans make atmospheres not stadiums 👍🏾 |
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Post by Beer Baron on Jan 3, 2024 19:04:06 GMT
I'm not sure but the atmosphere in the stadium was awful, horrible stadium for football. I find atmosphere blaming on stadiums just an excuse tbh. I used to think the same for West Ham until I went last season Vs Man Utd and it was one of the best atmospheres I’ve been to. I’ve thought the same about Wembley a few times too, until I saw Grimsby play us. As well as seeing England beat Germany, Denmark etc and suddenly you realise it is possible to create an atmosphere there. Turns out people need to actually sing. Who knew? Must've just been the crap game then! |
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Post by Gasshole on Jan 3, 2024 19:11:35 GMT
I find atmosphere blaming on stadiums just an excuse tbh. I used to think the same for West Ham until I went last season Vs Man Utd and it was one of the best atmospheres I’ve been to. I’ve thought the same about Wembley a few times too, until I saw Grimsby play us. As well as seeing England beat Germany, Denmark etc and suddenly you realise it is possible to create an atmosphere there. Turns out people need to actually sing. Who knew? Must've just been the crap game then! Or you didn’t sing loud enough. OH WHEN THE GAS….. |
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Post by Gassy on Jan 3, 2024 20:18:55 GMT
I find atmosphere blaming on stadiums just an excuse tbh. I used to think the same for West Ham until I went last season Vs Man Utd and it was one of the best atmospheres I’ve been to. I’ve thought the same about Wembley a few times too, until I saw Grimsby play us. As well as seeing England beat Germany, Denmark etc and suddenly you realise it is possible to create an atmosphere there. Turns out people need to actually sing. Who knew? Must've just been the crap game then! Tbf I assumed it would be crap, as its always rubbish on MOTD/TV. I think some stadiums are easier than others to get going, but honestly if an atmosphere is great for 5 mins after goal, but then goes quiet. The locals can't go pointing the finger at the stadium |
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 3, 2024 21:56:23 GMT
It's interesting that when redevelopments are discussed it's always English ones. Personally I'd be looking at redevelopments of old stadiums like the Erzgebirgsstadion and Ernst-Abbe-Sportfeld... Thanks for these. Came across this www.block-a.de/main.php?module=stadion&c=stadion_main&include=stadion_chronik on the history of development of the Erzgebirgsstadion (Ore Mountain Stadium). And this stadiumdb.com/designs/ger/ernst_abbe_sportfeld for the Ernst Abbe (use Translate function if you need to). Both are very tidy 15-17,000 grounds and I think Jena have bigger plans to further develop. I was struck that both original grounds were typically old school German with a running track (a bit like Eastville), but have moved away from that hybrid design. |
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Post by supergas on Jan 4, 2024 6:44:34 GMT
The London stadium was our jewel in the crown for the Olympics. I'd be disappointed if if didn't have decent facilities. That's what you get for £500m. Current lease to West Ham has it well under its original capacity. Does anyone know why? Tricky question as it has several reasons. Firstly they lost seats post-Olympics when they replaced the roof and converted to a rectangular field with retractable seating. Not sure if this is still the case (as they've done work since) but when it reopened in 2015/16 it actually had a larger capacity in athletics mode than in football mode - I think because of how the lower tier seating was positioned for the two different layouts... ....then there is licensing. When originally built a lot of the facilities (food & drink, toilets) spectators used were actually outside the stadium but within the Olympic Park - and despite the work to convert it for football one of the reasons there are currently around 68,000 physical seats but a matchday capacity of 62,000-ish is not enough toilets and catering - this is still being worked on and I think they're still two or three seasons away from a larger capacity for football based on an application they made in late 2023.. [edit] the video shows the transition from football to athletics, amazing the stadium technology you get when it's effectively taxpayer-funded.... |
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 4, 2024 11:12:59 GMT
It's interesting that when redevelopments are discussed it's always English ones. Personally I'd be looking at redevelopments of old stadiums like the Erzgebirgsstadion and Ernst-Abbe-Sportfeld... Thanks for these. Came across this www.block-a.de/main.php?module=stadion&c=stadion_main&include=stadion_chronik on the history of development of the Erzgebirgsstadion (Ore Mountain Stadium). And this stadiumdb.com/designs/ger/ernst_abbe_sportfeld for the Ernst Abbe (use Translate function if you need to). Both are very tidy 15-17,000 grounds and I think Jena have bigger plans to further develop. I was struck that both original grounds were typically old school German with a running track (a bit like Eastville), but have moved away from that hybrid design. I think more pointedly, both were typically old school East German stadiums. The reason I showed them is for me they're of the capacity we should be looking at, increased the capacity for both clubs while reducing the foot print of the stadium. Neither club is wealthy or has backers (both are membership owned). Stepped redevelopments are completely possible with genuine planning and understanding of the challenges that could be faced. Oh, and personally, I would put a vast quantity of the budget into a complete rebuild of the East Stand, include boxes, offices, gyms, shops, changing rooms, the lot ready to knock down the West Stand. The North Terrace would be the last thing I'd bother with. |
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