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Post by singupgas on Jan 5, 2024 17:50:17 GMT
I disagree, the Mem has a larger footprint than quite a few grounds, re-orientation of the pitch would enable a decent capacity. A development like Easter Road would fit comfortably, it is surrounded by housing too, it has a capacity of over 20,000 with the ability to raise that to 27,000 if they filled the corners in. There is only access to the site from filton avenue. Could you imagine the chaos and queues with 27000 trying to leave at full time through those 3 exit ways onto one road. 18000 would be the maximum we could hope for on the site. It would be fine. The Mem site soon empties on a match day and currently every fan leaves the Stadium itself through what are a handful of exits. For example currently if you are leaving the east stand or thatchers end everyone piles through one gate in the north east corner to exit towards the carpark and then the site exit. A well designed stadium would have many exits. |
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Post by gas2 on Jan 6, 2024 8:52:01 GMT
I disagree, the Mem has a larger footprint than quite a few grounds, re-orientation of the pitch would enable a decent capacity. A development like Easter Road would fit comfortably, it is surrounded by housing too, it has a capacity of over 20,000 with the ability to raise that to 27,000 if they filled the corners in. There is only access to the site from filton avenue. Could you imagine the chaos and queues with 27000 trying to leave at full time through those 3 exit ways onto one road. 18000 would be the maximum we could hope for on the site. Health and safety would be a issue having only one exit point ?but it never was a issue with previous p p for the whole stadium development was it |
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Post by playtowin on Jan 6, 2024 10:20:46 GMT
There is only access to the site from filton avenue. Could you imagine the chaos and queues with 27000 trying to leave at full time through those 3 exit ways onto one road. 18000 would be the maximum we could hope for on the site. Health and safety would be a issue having only one exit point ?but it never was a issue with previous p p for the whole stadium development was it That was in the past so we cant guarantee the same attitude. This was also for 18000 which i think is fine and likely the limit for the site. The example given was for a comparable stadium site which had a bigger capacity 20-27000. You could argue Ashton gate has limited access currently. Though the access points are on opposite ends of the ground. The Mem funnels everyone the same way. So for me its not the size of real estate we have that limits the size of the stadium but the access. Sort out the access and the Mem site could host a 30,000 stadium. |
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Post by singupgas on Jan 6, 2024 10:40:58 GMT
There are 3 northern site exits, I don't see the south exit ever being used again.
Leaving the stadium currently is done in single file from every stand as there is only one way out of each.
What the club needs to do is include more exits out of the stadium itself to help manage people leaving a game.
I don't think we should be ruling out a capacity around 25k.
Over to AlSaeeds to deliver that Premiership ambition.
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 6, 2024 10:48:23 GMT
There are 3 northern site exits, I don't see the south exit ever being used again. Leaving the stadium currently is done in single file from every stand as there is only one way out of each. What the club needs to do is include more exits out of the stadium itself to help manage people leaving a game. I don't think we should be ruling out a capacity around 25k. Over to AlSaeeds to deliver that Premiership ambition. There is a possiblity for a 4th exit onto Strathmore Road. The derelict building in the North West corner is apparently owned by the club and could be demolished to provide an exit. Similarly, the Alton Road exit could be turned into an emergency exit only. |
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Post by gas2 on Jan 6, 2024 12:55:11 GMT
Watching the mackhams v the toon game the mackhams have one stand that holds more than the other 3 this is also a norm for a lot of new stadiums
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Post by yattongas on Jan 6, 2024 13:18:45 GMT
There are 3 northern site exits, I don't see the south exit ever being used again. Leaving the stadium currently is done in single file from every stand as there is only one way out of each. What the club needs to do is include more exits out of the stadium itself to help manage people leaving a game. I don't think we should be ruling out a capacity around 25k. Over to AlSaeeds to deliver that Premiership ambition. There is a possiblity for a 4th exit onto Strathmore Road. The derelict building in the North West corner is apparently owned by the club and could be demolished to provide an exit. Similarly, the Alton Road exit could be turned into an emergency exit only. Behind the stage in the fans zone ? |
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Post by eric on Jan 6, 2024 16:18:16 GMT
There are 3 northern site exits, I don't see the south exit ever being used again. Leaving the stadium currently is done in single file from every stand as there is only one way out of each. What the club needs to do is include more exits out of the stadium itself to help manage people leaving a game. I don't think we should be ruling out a capacity around 25k. Over to AlSaeeds to deliver that Premiership ambition. The South entrance should get reopened. It’s not fair on the hordes of fans who like to have a wee in the front gardens on Alton Road if we continue to make them walk the long way round. |
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Post by singupgas on Jan 6, 2024 18:34:43 GMT
There are 3 northern site exits, I don't see the south exit ever being used again. Leaving the stadium currently is done in single file from every stand as there is only one way out of each. What the club needs to do is include more exits out of the stadium itself to help manage people leaving a game. I don't think we should be ruling out a capacity around 25k. Over to AlSaeeds to deliver that Premiership ambition. The South entrance should get reopened. It’s not fair on the hordes of fans who like to have a wee in the front gardens on Alton Road if we continue to make them walk the long way round. Ha. Play with fire of buying house next to a football stadium, prepare to have your garden urinated in. To be honest I have never witnessed anybody doing this at home or away games. |
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Post by eric on Jan 6, 2024 20:03:41 GMT
The South entrance should get reopened. It’s not fair on the hordes of fans who like to have a wee in the front gardens on Alton Road if we continue to make them walk the long way round. Ha. Play with fire of buying house next to a football stadium, prepare to have your garden urinated in. To be honest I have never witnessed anybody doing this at home or away games. I doubt anyone has witnessed it. Just made up by the protesters maybe 🤔 |
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Post by aghast on Jan 6, 2024 20:29:44 GMT
The South entrance should get reopened. It’s not fair on the hordes of fans who like to have a wee in the front gardens on Alton Road if we continue to make them walk the long way round. Ha. Play with fire of buying house next to a football stadium, prepare to have your garden urinated in. To be honest I have never witnessed anybody doing this at home or away games. When I lived in Liverpool for a year many moons ago, an experience I hope I never ever have to repeat, I went to Anfield several times. The little terraced houses near the stadium were subjected to a regular gushing torrent from the poor misunderstood Liverpool fans. |
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 6, 2024 22:37:47 GMT
There is a possiblity for a 4th exit onto Strathmore Road. The derelict building in the North West corner is apparently owned by the club and could be demolished to provide an exit. Similarly, the Alton Road exit could be turned into an emergency exit only. Behind the stage in the fans zone ? Yes. Doesn't look much at this point and I suspect only Bristol Rugby fans will know the original purpose of the building and access, but with permission it could be a useful addition.
Similarly the Alton Road Exit could be refurbished for emergency exit.
As a reminder, the SAG take into account (i) the physical capacity (ii) the normal access and egress throughput and (iii) the emergency exit throughput. The third of these is often the limiting factor in determining a stand or stadium's granted capacity.
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 7, 2024 1:58:17 GMT
At the Norwich stadium today there was very limited ways to get away from the stadium. They close off the local roads after the match to allow more people to leave the area more quickly. No reason why couldn't do the same outside a much bigger Mem.
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Post by singupgas on Jan 7, 2024 3:35:53 GMT
Behind the stage in the fans zone ? Yes. Doesn't look much at this point and I suspect only Bristol Rugby fans will know the original purpose of the building and access, but with permission it could be a useful addition.
Similarly the Alton Road Exit could be refurbished for emergency exit.Â
As a reminder, the SAG take into account (i) the physical capacity (ii) the normal access and egress throughput and (iii) the emergency exit throughput. The third of these is often the limiting factor in determining a stand or stadium's granted capacity.
The club should start making these exits available now then. Can't understand why they aren't really. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 7, 2024 9:16:52 GMT
I doubt you can suddenly just open up an exit without getting authority/permission of some kind?
If we did it'll give the lady who moaned in The Sun report about the new stand something to really moan about!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 7, 2024 9:22:46 GMT
At the Norwich stadium today there was very limited ways to get away from the stadium. They close off the local roads after the match to allow more people to leave the area more quickly. No reason why couldn't do the same outside a much bigger Mem. Why can't Filton Ave directly outside the ground be made car free for 15 mins at the end of a game? Even Trubshaw Cl is not traffic free. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 7, 2024 10:08:02 GMT
I doubt you can suddenly just open up an exit without getting authority/permission of some kind? If we did it'll give the lady who moaned in The Sun report about the new stand something to really moan about! it's in the interests of local residents that as many people as possible can leave the area as quickly as possible after the match. It would make sense to have that exit in place (even if we dont use it for now unless an emergency) before asking for planning permission for a higher capacity. |
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 7, 2024 10:12:42 GMT
Yes. Doesn't look much at this point and I suspect only Bristol Rugby fans will know the original purpose of the building and access, but with permission it could be a useful addition.
Similarly the Alton Road Exit could be refurbished for emergency exit.
As a reminder, the SAG take into account (i) the physical capacity (ii) the normal access and egress throughput and (iii) the emergency exit throughput. The third of these is often the limiting factor in determining a stand or stadium's granted capacity.
The club should start making these exits available now then. Can't understand why they aren't really. I'm not sure that it has been considered, yet. The planning permission for the South Stand was sought on the basis of simply restoring capacity to recent figure and not for an increase that would need further access. The next steps are a different matter. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Jan 7, 2024 22:14:51 GMT
We need a new East Stand same as the one Rovers were in on Saturday but with blue seats. Single tier with exec boxes and function rooms at the top that would have great views over Bristol.
This just popped up whilst browsing youtube
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 7, 2024 22:26:12 GMT
I doubt you can suddenly just open up an exit without getting authority/permission of some kind? If we did it'll give the lady who moaned in The Sun report about the new stand something to really moan about! . It would make sense to have that exit in place (even if we dont use it for now unless an emergency) before asking for planning permission for a higher capacity. I doubt if you live on Alton Rd your that interested, the fact fans are struggling to leave by the present exits isn't going to want them having 1,000's suddenly walking past their own houses & cars. If we do require pp then you can virtually guarantee they'll be objections. |
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