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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 14, 2024 16:10:22 GMT
What capacity do you all think we are looking at regarding the East stand? I think 10,000 for the two, so somewhere around the 6k mark depending on what facilities they want to incorporate. |
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Post by Sir Trevor on Jul 14, 2024 16:13:02 GMT
Just a thought.
Is it possible that a "whole stadium" planning application has been considered?
Local authority planners and concerned local residents like to know the big picture scenario.
At the same time a phased development plan is also under consideration.
Planning may be sought in stages or phases or as an entire process.
In these circumstances the necessity to temporarily relocate is doubtful.
It is still VERY EARLY DAYS and the plans are highly likely to be amended following consultation.
Speculation at this stage is................. speculation.
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Post by BS9gas on Jul 14, 2024 16:14:53 GMT
What capacity do you all think we are looking at regarding the East stand? Around 4 to 8k |
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Post by BS9gas on Jul 14, 2024 16:19:36 GMT
It would be nice to have some sign on the back of the east stand that says âBristol rovers football clubâ that would be good  |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 14, 2024 16:30:37 GMT
Same as all the rumours start, somebody posting something on social media, the fact the club haven't been quick to deny it does make you wonder if there might be something in it, as the work to completely rebuild two stands including building blocks of flats will take some doing with the ground in use for 2 or 3 seasons. Where has it been stated we are building flats? Whilst the local councillor responding to the original tweet didn't confirm we were intending building flats, she didn't deny that was part of the plan: x.com/TeamPenster/status/1810692248096436357?t=sbkp38-S9_ACHlyYi-689Q&s=19 |
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Post by eric on Jul 14, 2024 16:37:22 GMT
Why has moving out of our stadium suddenly become a hot topic âŚ. What have I missed? Personally I canât see it happening. Same as all the rumours start, somebody posting something on social media, the fact the club haven't been quick to deny it does make you wonder if there might be something in it, as the work to completely rebuild two stands including building blocks of flats will take some doing with the ground in use for 2 or 3 seasons. Surely you donât expect the club to make an official comment in response to every rumour someone starts on social media? |
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Post by Quarters on Jul 14, 2024 16:47:26 GMT
So it us not stated anywhere we are building flats? |
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Post by aghast on Jul 14, 2024 16:52:14 GMT
So is this all now official? - we're building the North and East stands simultaneously; - we're building student flats as part of - the above; - we're relocating during the build. I ask because the owners haven't said anything even remotely resembling any of this. Not sure about the rest but the plans presented to the residents definitely included six storey student flats - that much is 100% true. If plans for that have been made public and published, presumably somebody can provide a link to these? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 14, 2024 16:58:58 GMT
So it us not stated anywhere we are building flats? My previous post answered that question? If you still don't believe that we have any intention of including student flats then that's up to you, personally I can't see the club going to the trouble of mentioning that the plans may include student flats, then submitting plans excluding them. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 14, 2024 17:01:40 GMT
Not sure about the rest but the plans presented to the residents definitely included six storey student flats - that much is 100% true. If plans for that have been made public and published, presumably somebody can provide a link to these? Why post that when it's clear this whole rumour is based on an exchange of tweets following on from NortonGas1's post indicating that such a meeting took place? Depending on the outcome of the meeting the club will now have to decide what's included and what's not included in the plans when they are submitted to BCC. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 14, 2024 17:13:56 GMT
I expect it will be a complete plan that gets put forward for the currently considered phases.
Ie East, North, NorthWest but not the existing West stand which is currently out of scope.
But it wonât necessarily get delivered all in one go.
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Post by supergas on Jul 14, 2024 20:40:54 GMT
I guess that (logistically) one of the biggest problems rebuilding those stands whilst the rest of the stadium is being used is that the main access points for the whole site are behind the North stand and in the North East corner. Any works required beyond the area of the existing structures will compromise pedestrian access and might impact evacuation plans - which makes me wonder if they were/are looking at opening new access points using land owned by the club onto Strathmore Rd and Downend Rd - even just as a temporary measure during construction. The west stand & south/s-w stands doesn't seem an issue for home fans, just the away end, so either access to that via the roads mentioned or via fencing off the far side of the main car park, as construction work on the new East Stand won't go as far as Trubshaw Close. Problem is how much income will the club lose with no hospitality income for 2(?) seasons whilst the East Stand is rebuilt v moving to, say, Swindon and using their facilities but with lower overall attendances? ...but the access to the West, SW and South stands (and the North terrace? Long time since I've stood there) is through the North carpark. Capacities and safety certificates will have been agreed based on allowing a certain flow of people through a certain space in a certain time. Yes, in a real emergency they could and would use the pitch but that's not how the official calculations are made... |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 14, 2024 21:08:27 GMT
The west stand & south/s-w stands doesn't seem an issue for home fans, just the away end, so either access to that via the roads mentioned or via fencing off the far side of the main car park, as construction work on the new East Stand won't go as far as Trubshaw Close. Problem is how much income will the club lose with no hospitality income for 2(?) seasons whilst the East Stand is rebuilt v moving to, say, Swindon and using their facilities but with lower overall attendances? ...but the access to the West, SW and South stands (and the North terrace? Long time since I've stood there) is through the North carpark. Capacities and safety certificates will have been agreed based on allowing a certain flow of people through a certain space in a certain time. Yes, in a real emergency they could and would use the pitch but that's not how the official calculations are made... Exit from the new stands and the west stand is mainly via the Fans Zone/Mem Gates exit, if we need extra exits perhaps space can also be used behind the north stand? Although if we're staying at the Mem them developing one stand at at time seem to make most sense, or we're losing an extra 2,000/3,000 capacity every match. |
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Post by aghast on Jul 14, 2024 21:50:43 GMT
If plans for that have been made public and published, presumably somebody can provide a link to these? Why post that when it's clear this whole rumour is based on an exchange of tweets following on from NortonGas1's post indicating that such a meeting took place? Depending on the outcome of the meeting the club will now have to decide what's included and what's not included in the plans when they are submitted to BCC. Don't pick me up on it! I didn't start it. People are saying x is definite and y is happening and residents have been consulted. So I asked if they could provide backup. Holy moly. |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 14, 2024 21:53:50 GMT
Why post that when it's clear this whole rumour is based on an exchange of tweets following on from NortonGas1's post indicating that such a meeting took place? Depending on the outcome of the meeting the club will now have to decide what's included and what's not included in the plans when they are submitted to BCC. Don't pick me up on it! I didn't start it. People are saying x is definite and y is happening and residents have been consulted. So I asked if they could provide backup. Holy moly. First rule of GaschatâŚâŚ ignore Topper đđđ |
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Post by supergas on Jul 14, 2024 22:19:28 GMT
...but the access to the West, SW and South stands (and the North terrace? Long time since I've stood there) is through the North carpark. Capacities and safety certificates will have been agreed based on allowing a certain flow of people through a certain space in a certain time. Yes, in a real emergency they could and would use the pitch but that's not how the official calculations are made... Although if we're staying at the Mem them developing one stand at at time seem to make most sense, or we're losing an extra 2,000/3,000 capacity every match. ...and my point (that I thought I made pretty clearly) was that if construction encroaches on this area we might not get a safety certificate to be able to evacuate those other areas in the required time. So many choke-points around the three sides of the ground and the only site entrance/exits being all at the same end does present problems... |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 14, 2024 22:28:40 GMT
Exit from the new stands and the west stand is mainly via the Fans Zone/Mem Gates exit, if we need extra exits perhaps space can also be used behind the north stand?Although if we're staying at the Mem them developing one stand at at time seem to make most sense, or we're losing an extra 2,000/3,000 capacity every match. ...and my point (that I thought I made pretty clearly) was that if construction encroaches on this area we might not get a safety certificate to be able to evacuate those other areas in the required time. So many choke-points around the three sides of the ground and the only site entrance/exits being all at the same end does present problems... So we ring fence the construction site leaving exits all around the perimeter of the site, if that's a non starter perhaps that's why we need to find an alternative ground. |
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Post by supergas on Jul 14, 2024 22:36:43 GMT
...and my point (that I thought I made pretty clearly) was that if construction encroaches on this area we might not get a safety certificate to be able to evacuate those other areas in the required time. So many choke-points around the three sides of the ground and the only site entrance/exits being all at the same end does present problems... So we ring fence the construction site leaving exits all around the perimeter of the site, if that's a non starter perhaps that's why we need to find an alternative ground. ...or just knock through and use land owned by the club to create access points onto Strathmore Rd and Downend Rd - even just as a temporary measure during construction... Incidentally I used to work in nightclubs, I know how seriously evacuation protocols are taken, so if the club are deep into planning and have decent contractors on board they will have raised this as a potential issue already... |
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Post by heartofgas on Jul 15, 2024 10:05:27 GMT
It would be nice to have some sign on the back of the east stand that says âBristol rovers football clubâ that would be good View AttachmentSteady on now, don't get too carried away. We have to keep the plans realistic. |
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Post by curlywurly on Jul 15, 2024 10:09:05 GMT
So we ring fence the construction site leaving exits all around the perimeter of the site, if that's a non starter perhaps that's why we need to find an alternative ground. ...or just knock through and use land owned by the club to create access points onto Strathmore Rd and Downend Rd - even just as a temporary measure during construction... Incidentally I used to work in nightclubs, I know how seriously evacuation protocols are taken, so if the club are deep into planning and have decent contractors on board they will have raised this as a potential issue already... I'd always worked under the assumption that the disused garage and hence possible access to Strathmore Road was owned by the club. There has been various discussions about refurbishing it or otherwise in the last few years. However, I noted that the ownership site boundary in the planning documentation for the new screen didn't include this parcel of land.
I do really think the potential emergency exit onto Alton Road should be upgraded.
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