|
|
Post by gasheadpirate on Jul 17, 2024 14:36:34 GMT
Being consulted is one thing but all I’d like (as someone who’s supported the club for the best part of 40 years and who will continue to use the stadium in future) is to at least see or hear what the clubs redevelopment plans are. Fans seem bottom of the list for any level of information sharing. The club are doing this in the right way, imagine being a local councilor or resident and the first you hear of a planned major development is on the Rovers web page or in the paper, it would cause uproar and any good will towards the club would be lost. The point I was making is that fans should be consulted too. Yes the locals should be consulted but there is nothing to state the fans will be at present. |
|
|
|
Post by holmesgas1 on Jul 17, 2024 15:37:42 GMT
The club are doing this in the right way, imagine being a local councilor or resident and the first you hear of a planned major development is on the Rovers web page or in the paper, it would cause uproar and any good will towards the club would be lost. The point I was making is that fans should be consulted too. Yes the locals should be consulted but there is nothing to state the fans will be at present. I’m not sure, what we are going to tell them. We want safe standing, museum, large trophy room, great bars etc. Haven’t they picked most of this up from fans questionnaires and forums in recent years. Yes I want to see the plans, but consultation with the local residents has to be first, because no point in showing us something that has no chance or takes years to get through. |
|
|
|
Post by yattongas on Jul 17, 2024 17:00:32 GMT
The point I was making is that fans should be consulted too. Yes the locals should be consulted but there is nothing to state the fans will be at present. I’m not sure, what we are going to tell them. We want safe standing, museum, large trophy room, great bars etc. Haven’t they picked most of this up from fans questionnaires and forums in recent years. Yes I want to see the plans, but consultation with the local residents has to be first, because no point in showing us something that has no chance or takes years to get through. Small trophy room should suffice |
|
|
|
Post by gassince1957 on Jul 17, 2024 17:10:33 GMT
I’m not sure, what we are going to tell them. We want safe standing, museum, large trophy room, great bars etc. Haven’t they picked most of this up from fans questionnaires and forums in recent years. Yes I want to see the plans, but consultation with the local residents has to be first, because no point in showing us something that has no chance or takes years to get through. Small trophy cupboard should suffice Fixed your post! |
|
|
|
Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 17, 2024 17:39:51 GMT
The point I was making is that fans should be consulted too. Yes the locals should be consulted but there is nothing to state the fans will be at present. I’m not sure, what we are going to tell them. We want safe standing, museum, large trophy room, great bars etc. Haven’t they picked most of this up from fans questionnaires and forums in recent years. Yes I want to see the plans, but consultation with the local residents has to be first, because no point in showing us something that has no chance or takes years to get through. Exactly. If they consult with us all they’ll get is it’s not grand or ambitious enough, it’s not where I want it to be, I don’t like what they’re doing with where I currently sit/stand etc etc. it’ll be hard for them to design something too far away from what the club and its fans truly need within the boundaries of what we have available to spend. |
|
|
|
Post by ricardo on Jul 17, 2024 17:42:27 GMT
Small trophy draw should suffice Fixed your post! |
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Jul 17, 2024 17:52:06 GMT
It's always been frustrating how our stadium isn't central on the land. Previous thread here it was worked out a stadium the size of Goodison park could fit on the land at the mem. What's frustrating about it, if the club can get the capacity up to 16K/17K why does it matter when you're sat in the ground if it's built to one side or in the middle? Even if we had the financial backing to build a 30K capacity ground in the middle of the plot I doubt we'd ever get pp. |
|
|
|
Post by singupgas on Jul 17, 2024 18:52:51 GMT
It's always been frustrating how our stadium isn't central on the land. Previous thread here it was worked out a stadium the size of Goodison park could fit on the land at the mem. What's frustrating about it, if the club can get the capacity up to 16K/17K why does it matter when you're sat in the ground if it's built to one side or in the middle? Even if we had the financial backing to build a 30K capacity ground in the middle of the plot I doubt we'd ever get pp. The fact that they are talking of getting to 17K with the next phase... It's more than I expected. If they ever do go full hog and do the west stand to the maximum, from what I've been told that the plans allow for it to be built so that the overall capacity of the ground would be taken up to 26k. |
|
|
|
Post by skin01 on Jul 17, 2024 19:25:18 GMT
Would need to move the east stand a long way back to give room for a new west stand.
Be well happy with 17k capacity for now
|
|
|
|
Post by jonesyonfire on Jul 17, 2024 19:27:57 GMT
I’m not sure, what we are going to tell them. We want safe standing, museum, large trophy room, great bars etc. Haven’t they picked most of this up from fans questionnaires and forums in recent years. Yes I want to see the plans, but consultation with the local residents has to be first, because no point in showing us something that has no chance or takes years to get through. Small trophy room should suffice They just need a shelf? |
|
|
|
Post by stuart1974 on Jul 17, 2024 19:31:49 GMT
What's frustrating about it, if the club can get the capacity up to 16K/17K why does it matter when you're sat in the ground if it's built to one side or in the middle? Even if we had the financial backing to build a 30K capacity ground in the middle of the plot I doubt we'd ever get pp. The fact that they are talking of getting to 17K with the next phase... It's more than I expected. If they ever do go full hog and do the west stand to the maximum, from what I've been told that the plans allow for it to be built so that the overall capacity of the ground would be taken up to 26k. That would mean quite a sizeable West Stand, difficult to see that fitting in and think more of a net increase of 2-3,000 but happy to be corrected. What have you heard? |
|
|
|
Post by willytopp84 on Jul 17, 2024 19:39:12 GMT
Potentially could fit a decent stand on the west side if the Corp boxes and dressing rooms tunnel etc are to be moved onto east side.
|
|
|
|
Post by joefrankie on Jul 17, 2024 19:46:36 GMT
I'm wondering when the student housing bubble will burst? Considering there are blocks going up around the new UoB campus behind Temple Meads, blocks going up in 'Bedminster Green' as well as plans for student flats where Debenhams is now. Student numbers will potentially reduce across the sector next year as getting student visas has become more challenging, but I think that this is a relatively short term effect. I'd still anticipate that there will be significant demand from Bristol University, UWE, and student nursing staff that will exceed the dedicated student accommodation provision in the city - even with these new developments. Having said that, the 2006 scheme failed because the developer backed out in a brief period of cyclical downturn. Given the developments you mention, it seems like they would have got a return on their investment if they went ahead.
Beyond that, we’re still in the middle of a massive housing crisis, so there is also potential easing pressure on the private rented sector, as mentioned.
I would imagine there would be a good demand from students; it’s very near Southmead Hospital for medical students; it’s on Gloucester Road, great for pubs etc and I’m sure any football loving lad or lass coming to study in Bristol would love to have digs in what is part of a Football League club. |
|
|
|
Post by singupgas on Jul 17, 2024 20:39:56 GMT
The fact that they are talking of getting to 17K with the next phase... It's more than I expected. If they ever do go full hog and do the west stand to the maximum, from what I've been told that the plans allow for it to be built so that the overall capacity of the ground would be taken up to 26k. That would mean quite a sizeable West Stand, difficult to see that fitting in and think more of a net increase of 2-3,000 but happy to be corrected. What have you heard? Its someone else understanding of what was approved for the 2008 plans. If west was built as big as possible, the capacity would increase significantly. |
|
|
|
Post by eric on Jul 17, 2024 20:45:59 GMT
Being consulted is one thing but all I’d like (as someone who’s supported the club for the best part of 40 years and who will continue to use the stadium in future) is to at least see or hear what the clubs redevelopment plans are. Fans seem bottom of the list for any level of information sharing. The club are doing this in the right way, imagine being a local councilor or resident and the first you hear of a planned major development is on the Rovers web page or in the paper, it would cause uproar and any good will towards the club would be lost. That’s fine consulting with residents but fans are getting completely forgotten. I don’t need consulting and don’t expect to have input into what, how when the build takes place but it’s awful that us fans are left scrambling around for snippets of information being leaked on social media by resident groups following their meetings. If the club meet residents on a Monday why can’t the club tweet or email fans with an update the next morning? |
|
|
|
Post by cheamgas on Jul 17, 2024 22:01:03 GMT
Think that fans just need to leave the club to get on with it for now however frustrating it may be.
We do not know (nor is it helpful to know what the club is discussing with residents at this time). For example, the club may be accepting that these plans will eventually deliver a 16,000 capacity but showing 17,000 to see if residents/council would accept a higher figure. If they do not accept, then the plans could be changed to 16,000 to show goodwill to the residents which may be what the club were intending all of the time. Just one example of the best way to negotiate so we get something that fans and the council/residents will be eventually be happy with.
Fans putting views at this time and possibly upsetting the council/residents even more can be very detrimental to negotiations with the council and residents.
|
|
|
|
Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 17, 2024 22:01:33 GMT
The club are doing this in the right way, imagine being a local councilor or resident and the first you hear of a planned major development is on the Rovers web page or in the paper, it would cause uproar and any good will towards the club would be lost. That’s fine consulting with residents but fans are getting completely forgotten. I don’t need consulting and don’t expect to have input into what, how when the build takes place but it’s awful that us fans are left scrambling around for snippets of information being leaked on social media by resident groups following their meetings. If the club meet residents on a Monday why can’t the club tweet or email fans with an update the next morning? They did. www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/club-statement-residents-meetings |
|
|
|
Post by Kipper on Jul 18, 2024 7:19:38 GMT
One of the problems of having a 17000 Memorial Ground capacity is the very narrow accesses.
|
|
|
|
Post by amgas on Jul 18, 2024 8:29:53 GMT
Did the original Mem student plans involved demolishing some houses owned by the club ( that we no longer own ) or was that just for the Sainsbury's plan ?
|
|
|
|
Post by supergas on Jul 18, 2024 8:53:22 GMT
Did the original Mem student plans involved demolishing some houses owned by the club ( that we no longer own ) or was that just for the Sainsbury's plan ? The houses I assume you're thinking of were going to be demolished to allow access for larger trucks to the Sainsburys development - I think it was one on either side or two on the same side of the North East Access road. Can't remember if the official plans for the stadium included changes to the access - I remember some of the artists impressions showed new access points but not sure if that was the images or whether it was part of the official planning. |
|
