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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 20:15:11 GMT
Whelan walked out before he was asked to leave, had enough of the owners son and his false promises. FACT. What were the false promises? Considering we know pretty much nothing about our new owners are we to be concerned in your opinion? Surely the fact they don’t communicate with us is a concern anyway?
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Post by wallywalters on Dec 11, 2023 20:17:12 GMT
What were the false promises? Considering we know pretty much nothing about our new owners are we to be concerned in your opinion? Surely the fact they don’t communicate with us is a concern anyway? I agree. I've aired my concerns regarding their communication plenty of times. Like I said something just feels off and I can see Taylor walking. No evidence just a feeling.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 20:23:02 GMT
Surely the fact they don’t communicate with us is a concern anyway? I agree. I've aired my concerns regarding their communication plenty of times. Like I said something just feels off and I can see Taylor walking. No evidence just a feeling. I’ve said since about two weeks after they came in that I wasn’t convinced and was worried by their lack of communication. We’ve got two directors that everyone assumes were from Goldman Sachs and a HR expert (they aren’t) that we’ve never heard a word form and don’t know what they specialise in. We’ve never heard a word from the son who’s around the club every single day. They might turn out to be absolutely spot on but something doesn’t feel right to me, I hope I am wrong!
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Post by yattongas on Dec 11, 2023 20:26:46 GMT
Whelan walked out before he was asked to leave, had enough of the owners son and his false promises. FACT. What promises were those ?
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Post by richie on Dec 11, 2023 20:35:22 GMT
Makes you wonder how many of the players want out, JB was devisive but he did have loyalty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 20:35:37 GMT
Whelan walked out before he was asked to leave, had enough of the owners son and his false promises. FACT. What promises were those ? Mangs was told the job was his, and Whelan was part of this. See his tweet, the owners son promised 3 men the job! The owners son pulled the plug on the JCH deal, everyone at the club knows it. And someone is trying to destabilise the team, the players cancelled the trip, they were meant to fly out Sunday and come back Monday evening, they have a game tomorrow night!
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Post by oldie on Dec 11, 2023 20:40:31 GMT
What promises were those ? Mangs was told the job was his, and Whelan was part of this. See his tweet, the owners son promised 3 men the job! The owners son pulled the plug on the JCH deal, everyone at the club knows it. And someone is trying to destabilise the team, the players cancelled the trip, they were meant to fly out Sunday and come back Monday evening, they have a game tomorrow night! Christ If any of this is true we are looking at a disaster
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Post by gasheadontour on Dec 11, 2023 20:44:53 GMT
Makes you wonder how many of the players want out, JB was devisive but he did have loyalty. I doubt any other club would have offered JB a managerial job. I doubt players will want to leave unless agents can find them a better deal.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 11, 2023 20:45:12 GMT
What promises were those ? Mangs was told the job was his, and Whelan was part of this. See his tweet, the owners son promised 3 men the job! The owners son pulled the plug on the JCH deal, everyone at the club knows it. And someone is trying to destabilise the team, the players cancelled the trip, they were meant to fly out Sunday and come back Monday evening, they have a game tomorrow night! Isn’t it the owner to promise the job ? A promise from the son isn’t cast iron is it? You’ll have to give a bit more info on the JCH saga….. why did he pull the plug ? The last bit . Fly out where and for what ? I’m lost
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 20:49:53 GMT
Yatton todays Daily Mail ran an article that Matty Taylor cancelled the players Christmas break to Dublin, he never did it, the players did and were meant to fly yesterday and come back today, someone lied to the paper.
The owners son just didn’t want JCH, for all the sh** I gave Barton, he was badly let down on this one.
The had all the hallmarks of a Oldham situation on our hands.
6 weeks to appoint a manager, Whelan walked out on us, he had enough
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Post by singupgas on Dec 11, 2023 20:50:22 GMT
I have heard similar things about broken promises made to Whelan and also a cancelled Christmas dinner.
I would also lean towards someone intentionally prevented us signing JCH, we managed to sign handful of others but couldn't get JCH done.
Of courses all rumour but no smoke without fire.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 20:55:09 GMT
I have heard similar things about broken promises regard to Whelan and also a cancelled Christmas dinner. I would also lean towards someone intentionally prevented us signing JCH, we managed to sign handful of others but couldn't get JCH done. Of courses all rumour but no smoke without fire. I don’t think the fire is out and I think we have a lot of smoke as well!
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Post by yattongas on Dec 11, 2023 20:55:11 GMT
Yatton todays Daily Mail ran an article that Matty Taylor cancelled the players Christmas break to Dublin, he never did it, the players did and were meant to fly yesterday and come back today, some lied to the paper. The owners son just didn’t want JCH, for all the sh** I gave Barton, he was badly let down on this one. The had all the hallmarks of a Oldham situation on our hands. 6 weeks to appoint a manager, Whelan walked out on us, he had enough Ok thanks but I never believe anything the Mail prints ! 😂 JCH one seems a bit odd to pull the plug at the death but I’ll take your word for it Roady ( I never wanted him at that overinflated price anyway).
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Post by bridgwatergas on Dec 11, 2023 20:55:52 GMT
What promises were those ? Mangs was told the job was his, and Whelan was part of this. See his tweet, the owners son promised 3 men the job! The owners son pulled the plug on the JCH deal, everyone at the club knows it. And someone is trying to destabilise the team, the players cancelled the trip, they were meant to fly out Sunday and come back Monday evening, they have a game tomorrow night! What are you on about with the players cancelling the trip there is no way it was going to happen with a game tomorrow so I can't see it being a story. Where are you getting all this information from about what's happening inside the club as so much has been kept in house and now all of a sudden its all out in the open to be put on social media.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 21:05:06 GMT
Mangs was told the job was his, and Whelan was part of this. See his tweet, the owners son promised 3 men the job! The owners son pulled the plug on the JCH deal, everyone at the club knows it. And someone is trying to destabilise the team, the players cancelled the trip, they were meant to fly out Sunday and come back Monday evening, they have a game tomorrow night! What are you on about with the players cancelling the trip there is no way it was going to happen with a game tomorrow so I can't see it being a story. Where are you getting all this information from about what's happening inside the club as so much has been kept in house and now all of a sudden its all out in the open to be put on social media. I’d imagine that some people at the club have had enough of the current state of affairs and are now leaking it to let fans know what’s happening. That’s how it usually works
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 21:05:48 GMT
Read above Bridgey, the paper ran an article that was lies, who lied to them?
I can’t disclose where I get my information.
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Post by singupgas on Dec 11, 2023 21:07:46 GMT
I have heard similar things about broken promises regard to Whelan and also a cancelled Christmas dinner. I would also lean towards someone intentionally prevented us signing JCH, we managed to sign handful of others but couldn't get JCH done. Of courses all rumour but no smoke without fire. I don’t think the fire is out and I think we have a lot of smoke as well! There isn't a lot to get excited about right now, I'm still annoyed by the FM collapse. I am still not convinced if the rest of the Mem is just patched up. I am nervous to see what is actually done. The total silence from new owners also doesn't fill me with confidence. At least when Wael came in initially he was positive. To keep things positive and avoid a total collapse on the pitch aswell, MT really needs to be backed in January bringing in staff he trust but also a good amount of players, at least 4 imo.
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Post by bridgwatergas on Dec 11, 2023 21:10:08 GMT
What are you on about with the players cancelling the trip there is no way it was going to happen with a game tomorrow so I can't see it being a story. Where are you getting all this information from about what's happening inside the club as so much has been kept in house and now all of a sudden its all out in the open to be put on social media. I’d imagine that some people at the club have had enough of the current state of affairs and are now leaking it to let fans know what’s happening. That’s how it usually works Wasn't asking you but thanks for the reply. So under JB everyone was happy and nothing got leaked out but now everyone is unhappy now he has gone and are leaking out info. All dosent add up and it feels like some people have some kind of agenda,I don't know what that is but in the last 2 months this forum has changed dramatically and been hijacked by a few posters. I bored of it all now and will take a break as can't be bothered with all this rubbish.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Dec 11, 2023 21:13:19 GMT
There’s been a clear change in communication since the new people have been involved . I have to be honest and say I am amazed that as a fanbase we haven’t questioned more about the new directors and owners. I’ve been saying this on here for a while - these new majority shareholders are not “football people”; that might work at the level of Man U, Citeh, Chelsea, etc, where you can attract people who are not necessarily diehard or lifelong supporters and the clubs have a global or international footprint, but at our level the fan base are largely local, following long family traditions and are literally the beating heart of the club. And I suspect that they are either unwilling or incapable of engaging with us. I think they just regard us simply as consumers who don’t need to be included in any consultations or updated on anything unless they consider it necessary. I can see this going the way of Cardiff when Vincent Tan took over and the first thing he did was to change the club colours from blue to red and ditch the bluebird for a dragon - over 100 years’ worth of history and tradition binned in one fell swoop . . .
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 11, 2023 21:13:49 GMT
Bloody worrying stuff. I’ve heard bad stuff on the JCH deal.
Here’s hoping Wael sticks around.
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