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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 5, 2024 20:09:28 GMT
Election debate on BBC this Friday, line up is:
Conservative Party: Penny Mordaunt
Labour Party: Angela Rayner
Scottish National Party: Stephen Flynn
Liberal Democrats: Daisy Cooper
Green Party: Carla Denyer
Reform Party: Nigel Farage
Plaid Cymru: Rhun ap Iorwerth
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Post by francegas on Jun 5, 2024 20:12:28 GMT
Sorry Yatton but when trying to get through to a 🛎end like Gassy it's somewhat difficult 😅 I hear he speaks highly of you as well 😂 Personally I couldn't give a flying what he thinks of me.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 5, 2024 20:38:33 GMT
I hear he speaks highly of you as well 😂 Personally I couldn't give a flying what he thinks of me. Can’t we all just be fwends ?
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Post by Gassy on Jun 5, 2024 20:52:19 GMT
And now you turn to personal insults because you can’t read? Can’t spell, can’t read, can’t post a link. The list adds up, mate! FFS do one will you. Maybe you're the one who can't read. Go back to page 71 where all I stated was about Starmer wearing a £500 coat and telling people he knows what it feels like to struggle to pay bills. You're the one who got on his high horse (nothing unusual there), bought up Sunak (something I didn't), bought up how a multimillionaire would know about struggling to pay bills compared to a Billionaire (Again you raised it not me). Mind you it's not the first time you don't read posts as you recently accused me of using words about London which I never used and apparently I accused you of mentioning Gary Lineker, again something I never did. So get your own house in order before having a go at others. PS...sorry I have difficulty at times posting a link. I never knew this was a major problem that I should be ridiculed about. Oh well. Oh do one now is it? What next, threats? 2Go back to page 71 where all I stated was about Starmer wearing a £500 coat and telling people he knows what it feels like to struggle to pay bills". - Yeah, and I then commented how the even richer guy says the same. I love that you think mentioning Sunak in a debate of Sunak vs Starmer is somehow ridiculous As for London, you absolutely suggested it, until I cornered you and you backed out of it. As for the Gary comment, I didn't understand your point then, and I don't understand it now. I never mentioned Gary in any of my posts. I commented on one thing you said on the other forum and you started, and are still blaring on about Gary bloody Linekar. What are you even talking about Have a lye down France and for the 6th time, maybe start reading posts before you comment!
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Post by francegas on Jun 5, 2024 21:34:17 GMT
FFS do one will you. Maybe you're the one who can't read. Go back to page 71 where all I stated was about Starmer wearing a £500 coat and telling people he knows what it feels like to struggle to pay bills. You're the one who got on his high horse (nothing unusual there), bought up Sunak (something I didn't), bought up how a multimillionaire would know about struggling to pay bills compared to a Billionaire (Again you raised it not me). Mind you it's not the first time you don't read posts as you recently accused me of using words about London which I never used and apparently I accused you of mentioning Gary Lineker, again something I never did. So get your own house in order before having a go at others. PS...sorry I have difficulty at times posting a link. I never knew this was a major problem that I should be ridiculed about. Oh well. Oh do one now is it? What next, threats? 2Go back to page 71 where all I stated was about Starmer wearing a £500 coat and telling people he knows what it feels like to struggle to pay bills". - Yeah, and I then commented how the even richer guy says the same. I love that you think mentioning Sunak in a debate of Sunak vs Starmer is somehow ridiculous As for London, you absolutely suggested it, until I cornered you and you backed out of it. As for the Gary comment, I didn't understand your point then, and I don't understand it now. I never mentioned Gary in any of my posts. I commented on one thing you said on the other forum and you started, and are still blaring on about Gary bloody Linekar. What are you even talking about Have a lye down France and for the 6th time, maybe start reading posts before you comment! What are you waffling on about.😂😂😂😂 Christ, take a paracetamol will you.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 5, 2024 22:20:57 GMT
Surely there should be a rule that the candidates have to have some connection with the area. "Conservative chairman Richard Holden looks set to be parachuted into a safe seat at the last minute, against the wishes of local Tories. Two local Tory officials told the BBC Mr Holden was the only candidate offered by the national party to represent the Essex seat of Basildon and Billericay, with one saying it was a "slap in the face" for local Tories. A cabinet minister told the BBC the move had "gone down like a bucket of cold sick”. Mr Holden has represented North West Durham, nearly 300 miles further north, since 2019. But his seat is being abolished as part of a scheduled review of UK seat boundaries for this year's election, meaning he had to find another one." www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckkkq4kx3l0o
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 5, 2024 22:32:37 GMT
Again it's somebody else's fault, Tory Right blaming Tory Left. Some people can't see that they aren't centre Right, they are more than that. "This is why I blame the Tory wets, in charge for almost all of the past 14 years, for the Starmer-ite calamity that is about to befall Britain. It is the wets who jettisoned free-market economics, deregulation, tax cuts and supply-side reforms, who crippled the City, who increased immigration, who ignored the collapse of community and family and the baby-bust, who failed to fix the Civil Service, who refused to scrap the BBC licence fee, who had no interest in properly reforming the public sector, including the NHS (and who promoted even more cultish reverence for a failing system), who vetoed prison building and a real crackdown on crime, who embraced net zero and the neo-Blairite quangocracy, and who wanted to surrender to the woke stormtroopers. It is they who snubbed Farage, especially after Boris Johnson was defenestrated, and who took the Brexiteers for granted. It is the wets who are responsible for the rise of Reform. The Tory Left failed to accept that Brexit wasn’t just about leaving the EU in a technical sense, but also about resetting our politics, institutions, culture and economy. It was a mechanism to address the discontent that began to emerge during the early- to mid-2000s, in response to the pathologies of the Blair-Brown era and exacerbated by the slower growth that followed the financial crisis. By 2016, the electorate was crying out for a dramatic rupture; instead, the wets only offered up more of the same. By the time Sunak came to power, lockdowns and Russia had set off crippling inflation, there was no majority in the Tory party to do anything radical and, in any case, it was too late. The only agenda that could have saved the country and the party had been torpedoed by a group too culturally and economically comfortable to understand the concerns of the Red Wall and of suburban Middle England." archive.ph/DqtSb#selection-3101.4-3101.80
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 5, 2024 22:45:18 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 5, 2024 22:53:50 GMT
Yeah but Angela Rayner. "Rishi Sunak was paid c£5 million in his 20s as partner in a hedge fund at the heart of 2008 RBS crash which taxpayers bailed out for £45.5 BILLION Sunak was partner in TCI hedge fund which aggressively pushed for the sale of ABN Amro Bank RBS-led consortium then bought ABN for £50bn in October 2007 biggest takeover in banking history. A year later RBS crashed Taxpayer spent £45.5bn bailing out RBS TCI made £555 million profit 2007/08 largely due to ABN sale deal Sunak was one of 19 TCI partners who shared £93+ million of the TCI ABN share profit in 2008 Sunak probably walked away with £5 million while we bailed out RBS Financial Services Authority said re bank crash “it is clear that the (RBS) acquisition (of ABN Amro) undoubtedly contributed significantly to RBS’s vulnerability”." x.com/carolvorders/status/1797389526232338901
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 6, 2024 6:10:02 GMT
Yeah but Angela Rayner. "Rishi Sunak was paid c£5 million in his 20s as partner in a hedge fund at the heart of 2008 RBS crash which taxpayers bailed out for £45.5 BILLION Sunak was partner in TCI hedge fund which aggressively pushed for the sale of ABN Amro Bank RBS-led consortium then bought ABN for £50bn in October 2007 biggest takeover in banking history. A year later RBS crashed Taxpayer spent £45.5bn bailing out RBS TCI made £555 million profit 2007/08 largely due to ABN sale deal Sunak was one of 19 TCI partners who shared £93+ million of the TCI ABN share profit in 2008 Sunak probably walked away with £5 million while we bailed out RBS Financial Services Authority said re bank crash “it is clear that the (RBS) acquisition (of ABN Amro) undoubtedly contributed significantly to RBS’s vulnerability”." x.com/carolvorders/status/1797389526232338901Not another Vorderman implied slur,first TCI did nothing wrong or illegal,second ,the purchase of ABN was driven by Goodwin's over inflated ego in the same way Lloyds takeover of HBOS was driven by Daniels. It was obvious to all of us in the Banking industry at the time,that RBS paid far too much , didn't undertake the correct level of due diligence nor have the competence to make it work. Interesting that Vorderman never posts anything about the shambles in Labour controlled Wales or the corrupt FM !!
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 6, 2024 7:20:37 GMT
Yeah but Angela Rayner. "Rishi Sunak was paid c£5 million in his 20s as partner in a hedge fund at the heart of 2008 RBS crash which taxpayers bailed out for £45.5 BILLION Sunak was partner in TCI hedge fund which aggressively pushed for the sale of ABN Amro Bank RBS-led consortium then bought ABN for £50bn in October 2007 biggest takeover in banking history. A year later RBS crashed Taxpayer spent £45.5bn bailing out RBS TCI made £555 million profit 2007/08 largely due to ABN sale deal Sunak was one of 19 TCI partners who shared £93+ million of the TCI ABN share profit in 2008 Sunak probably walked away with £5 million while we bailed out RBS Financial Services Authority said re bank crash “it is clear that the (RBS) acquisition (of ABN Amro) undoubtedly contributed significantly to RBS’s vulnerability”." x.com/carolvorders/status/1797389526232338901Not another Vorderman implied slur,first TCI did nothing wrong or illegal,second ,the purchase of ABN was driven by Goodwin's over inflated ego in the same way Lloyds takeover of HBOS was driven by Daniels. It was obvious to all of us in the Banking industry at the time,that RBS paid far too much , didn't undertake the correct level of due diligence nor have the competence to make it work. Interesting that Vorderman never posts anything about the shambles in Labour controlled Wales or the corrupt FM !! Original story was The Guardian, but agreed that nothing wrong in itself. Some have questioned Starmer's past, important to understand Sunak's too.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 6, 2024 7:47:08 GMT
Yeah but Angela Rayner. "Rishi Sunak was paid c£5 million in his 20s as partner in a hedge fund at the heart of 2008 RBS crash which taxpayers bailed out for £45.5 BILLION Sunak was partner in TCI hedge fund which aggressively pushed for the sale of ABN Amro Bank RBS-led consortium then bought ABN for £50bn in October 2007 biggest takeover in banking history. A year later RBS crashed Taxpayer spent £45.5bn bailing out RBS TCI made £555 million profit 2007/08 largely due to ABN sale deal Sunak was one of 19 TCI partners who shared £93+ million of the TCI ABN share profit in 2008 Sunak probably walked away with £5 million while we bailed out RBS Financial Services Authority said re bank crash “it is clear that the (RBS) acquisition (of ABN Amro) undoubtedly contributed significantly to RBS’s vulnerability”." x.com/carolvorders/status/1797389526232338901Not another Vorderman implied slur,first TCI did nothing wrong or illegal,second ,the purchase of ABN was driven by Goodwin's over inflated ego in the same way Lloyds takeover of HBOS was driven by Daniels. It was obvious to all of us in the Banking industry at the time,that RBS paid far too much , didn't undertake the correct level of due diligence nor have the competence to make it work. Interesting that Vorderman never posts anything about the shambles in Labour controlled Wales or the corrupt FM !! Do you honestly think things would have been better under a Tory controlled Wales ? Maybe you could have got some of that levelling up money ( stop laughing 🙄😂) .
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Post by yattongas on Jun 6, 2024 8:39:09 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 6, 2024 8:40:36 GMT
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 6, 2024 9:00:43 GMT
Not another Vorderman implied slur,first TCI did nothing wrong or illegal,second ,the purchase of ABN was driven by Goodwin's over inflated ego in the same way Lloyds takeover of HBOS was driven by Daniels. It was obvious to all of us in the Banking industry at the time,that RBS paid far too much , didn't undertake the correct level of due diligence nor have the competence to make it work. Interesting that Vorderman never posts anything about the shambles in Labour controlled Wales or the corrupt FM !! Do you honestly think things would have been better under a Tory controlled Wales ? Maybe you could have got some of that levelling up money ( stop laughing 🙄😂) . That's a complete red herring,it's sh.t but would be more sh.t etc That's no excuse for the appalling state of the NHS,Education and complete mal administration. My point as well is Vorderman posts daily about the Tory government however,chooses to ignore and say nothing about Wales ,wonder why🤔🤔
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Post by yattongas on Jun 6, 2024 9:04:10 GMT
Do you honestly think things would have been better under a Tory controlled Wales ? Maybe you could have got some of that levelling up money ( stop laughing 🙄😂) . That's a complete red herring,it's sh.t but would be more sh.t etc That's no excuse for the appalling state of the NHS,Education and complete mal administration. My point as well is Vorderman posts daily about the Tory government however,chooses to ignore and say nothing about Wales ,wonder why🤔🤔 It’s not a red herring it was a genuine question, do you think things in Wales would be better under Tory rule ?
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 6, 2024 9:49:16 GMT
That's a complete red herring,it's sh.t but would be more sh.t etc That's no excuse for the appalling state of the NHS,Education and complete mal administration. My point as well is Vorderman posts daily about the Tory government however,chooses to ignore and say nothing about Wales ,wonder why🤔🤔 It’s not a red herring it was a genuine question, do you think things in Wales would be better under Tory rule ? I have no idea ,could it be any worse after 25 yes of a second rate bunch of politicians,I don't think so.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 6, 2024 9:50:37 GMT
It’s not a red herring it was a genuine question, do you think things in Wales would be better under Tory rule ? I have no idea ,could it be any worse after 25 yes of a second rate bunch of politicians,I don't think so. Best vote Tory then . Hope things turn out as you hope but I doubt it. 👍
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 6, 2024 10:29:14 GMT
I have no idea ,could it be any worse after 25 yes of a second rate bunch of politicians,I don't think so. Best vote Tory then . Hope things turn out as you hope but I doubt it. 👍 Nope, that's not the way it works is it,Labour are beyond criticism because you vote for them,I want them to sort out the mess,prioritise the critical Public Services not indulge in expensive pet projects that deliver FA for the communities they are meant to care about.
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Post by supergas on Jun 6, 2024 10:43:48 GMT
Do you honestly think things would have been better under a Tory controlled Wales ? Maybe you could have got some of that levelling up money ( stop laughing 🙄😂) . That's a complete red herring,it's sh.t but would be more sh.t etc That's no excuse for the appalling state of the NHS,Education and complete mal administration. My point as well is Vorderman posts daily about the Tory government however,chooses to ignore and say nothing about Wales ,wonder why🤔🤔 I met Carol Vorderman once when I was working behind the scenes on a TV show. I suspect I know exactly why she likes to snipe from the sidelines rather than get stuck it and actually run for election. Style over substance, appearance over action. But she can do mathematics so whilst she would be a rubbish Chancellor she could check their working out (Chief Secretary to the Treasury...?) The Scottish government is falling apart. The Welsh government is falling apart. The UK government might be rubbish but at least they will see out their electoral term...
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