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Post by playtowin on Jan 20, 2024 19:18:42 GMT
There you have it. End of potential top 8 finish. All about how close to 9th we can finish now. Hunt must go asap. Hoole...again is not ready for any type of CB role for a good few years yet. Grant shows why he is such a useful player worth having...but never a first choice in any role. We need to be planning for next season now. Out the door. Hunt Wilson Friend Gordon Crama Cox Vale ( unless he is available to sign perm) Sinclair Possible outs McCormick Marquis Martin Brown Connolly Hoole Ward Only Definite keeps Finley Collins Taylor Evans J Ward Funny how we see things differently. Out the door. Hunt In for meWilson Good player but too injury prone to rely on. We need another Tony Craig to replace IMOFriend Alright but can't rely onGordon Young but a good option from the bench, wouldn't be disappointed though if he leftCrama I get he's a loan player but I'd have him back. Think this could be realistic too.Cox Will need a replacement in the mould of Ansii Jaakola in his prime but I think he'll go on to be a good keeper.Vale ( unless he is available to sign perm) - Will have a good career but unfinished product right now. Wouldn't be against having him back.Sinclair Zero impact at the minute and probably expensive. Gives the impression the love of the game has gone.Possible outs McCormick Showing the player we had first time around these last few games. Think Barton did something to knock his confidenceMarquis Not the player I thought we'd signedMartin Sign him upBrown Not the player I thought we'd signed Connolly Good for back upHoole Good for backupWard Are you kidding? We're clearly missing the blokeDefinite keeps Finley AgreeCollins Get a fee for him and bring some others inTaylor AgreeEvans AgreeJ Ward AgreeThomasI put Ward in that list as his injuries stop stability in the team. So a maybe keep. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jan 20, 2024 19:20:22 GMT
After Joey's sacking, the pearl grasping morally superior on here were saying how T2 Oops Taylor had got all the players playing for him, by moving away from passing the ball out from the back reverting to 1980s kick long and hope we win the second ball. Now we have lost 4 and drawn 1 of the last five games, Taylor is not to blame its the referee (something Joey was also berated about) or the players, hmm what is it, are the players now not playing for Taylor ? imo, playing Hoole is a mistake (an opinion Taylor seemed to share during his post match interview) although the worse decision is why anybody would play Grant in centre midfield is beyond me. I am prepared to play along with Taylor in the kings clothes thing, if it keeps the forum from going into melt down, but surely he needs to stop standing on the touch line simply glaring why his arms are closely crossed for 90 minutes, and go out and sign a rake of players sooner rather than later, as non of us want to be flirting with relegation. Hoping for better things on Tuesday night. Utg
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Post by returnofthedust on Jan 20, 2024 19:23:43 GMT
After Joey's sacking, the pearl grasping morally superior on here were saying how T2 Oops Taylor had got all the players playing for him, by moving away from passing the ball out from the back reverting to 1980s kick long and hope we win the second ball. Now we have lost 4 and drawn 1 of the last five games, Taylor is not to blame its the referee (something Joey was also berated about) or the players, hmm what is it, are the players now not playing for Taylor ? imo, playing Hoole is a mistake (an opinion Taylor seemed to share during his post match interview) although the worse decision is why anybody would play Grant in centre midfield is beyond me. I am prepared to play along with Taylor in the kings clothes thing, if it keeps the forum from going into melt down, but surely he needs to stop standing on the touch line simply glaring why his arms are closely crossed for 90 minutes, and go out and sign a rake of players sooner rather than later, as non of us want to be flirting with relegation. Hoping for better things on Tuesday night. Utg We have to be fair to him though don’t we? The recruitment department is non existent and he’s playing catch up. I don’t see who else he could have played other than Grant in midfield today? |
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Post by rovers78 on Jan 20, 2024 19:25:38 GMT
Poor performance and very poor result against a side who play 120 mins midweek and would’ve spent one of their recovery days travelling down to Bristol.
Let’s be honest, season is over already. Roll on the summer and MT being given time to implement his style and form his own squad.
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Post by Marshy on Jan 20, 2024 19:33:46 GMT
Poor performance and very poor result against a side who play 120 mins midweek and would’ve spent one of their recovery days travelling down to Bristol. Let’s be honest, season is over already. Roll on the summer and MT being given time to implement his style and form his own squad. Yeah 120 mins as professional footballers : we played 90: is really tough and then falling asleep on a coach for 4 hours is really tough too! 🤷♂️ |
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Post by singupgas on Jan 20, 2024 19:34:47 GMT
I think bit of a overreaction that we need offload 80% of the team.
I do think that we should be looking to strengthen the squad this window. Get players playing together sooner and identifying a regular 11 and finish the season strongly.
Today's game, probably up there for being one of poorest. For 40 minutes in first half it was like watching Sunday morning football, disorganised, defensively awful and unable to string passes together.
Second half was improved, Blackpool seemed happy to defend for 45 not offering anything really, but we couldn't break them down and get shots away.
What I am struggling with is to see what sort of team we are trying to be. There isn't much link up play, no pattern of play. We have gone from playing some attractive football to looking bit of shambles.
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Post by mftc on Jan 20, 2024 19:42:31 GMT
Two mistakes cost us two goals. Yeah it's more of the same defensive mistakes this season, but a draw or a sneaked win, with the same performance and the reaction on here would be that we are showing the signs of a great team, who win when not playing well.
Small margins they say, but next season, a settled fit defence containing the players we already have and an assured keeper could mean the difference between one and three points, which in itself would breed more confidence.
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Post by eric on Jan 20, 2024 19:43:45 GMT
After Joey's sacking, the pearl grasping morally superior on here were saying how T2 Oops Taylor had got all the players playing for him, by moving away from passing the ball out from the back reverting to 1980s kick long and hope we win the second ball. Now we have lost 4 and drawn 1 of the last five games, Taylor is not to blame its the referee (something Joey was also berated about) or the players, hmm what is it, are the players now not playing for Taylor ? imo, playing Hoole is a mistake (an opinion Taylor seemed to share during his post match interview) although the worse decision is why anybody would play Grant in centre midfield is beyond me. I am prepared to play along with Taylor in the kings clothes thing, if it keeps the forum from going into melt down, but surely he needs to stop standing on the touch line simply glaring why his arms are closely crossed for 90 minutes, and go out and sign a rake of players sooner rather than later, as non of us want to be flirting with relegation. Hoping for better things on Tuesday night. Utg Who would you have played in the defensive/holding midfield role instead of Grant? |
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Post by rovers78 on Jan 20, 2024 19:47:53 GMT
Poor performance and very poor result against a side who play 120 mins midweek and would’ve spent one of their recovery days travelling down to Bristol. Let’s be honest, season is over already. Roll on the summer and MT being given time to implement his style and form his own squad. Yeah 120 mins as professional footballers : we played 90: is really tough and then falling asleep on a coach for 4 hours is really tough too! 🤷♂️ Not really how it works pal. But if it helps you sleep at night 👍🏻 |
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Post by rovers78 on Jan 20, 2024 19:49:10 GMT
After Joey's sacking, the pearl grasping morally superior on here were saying how T2 Oops Taylor had got all the players playing for him, by moving away from passing the ball out from the back reverting to 1980s kick long and hope we win the second ball. Now we have lost 4 and drawn 1 of the last five games, Taylor is not to blame its the referee (something Joey was also berated about) or the players, hmm what is it, are the players now not playing for Taylor ? imo, playing Hoole is a mistake (an opinion Taylor seemed to share during his post match interview) although the worse decision is why anybody would play Grant in centre midfield is beyond me. I am prepared to play along with Taylor in the kings clothes thing, if it keeps the forum from going into melt down, but surely he needs to stop standing on the touch line simply glaring why his arms are closely crossed for 90 minutes, and go out and sign a rake of players sooner rather than later, as non of us want to be flirting with relegation. Hoping for better things on Tuesday night. Utg MT is a league (or two) above the quality of manager, and man, that Joey is. Give him the time and support that Joey got, the club will be a far far better position than it currently is on and off the pitch. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2024 19:57:12 GMT
After Joey's sacking, the pearl grasping morally superior on here were saying how T2 Oops Taylor had got all the players playing for him, by moving away from passing the ball out from the back reverting to 1980s kick long and hope we win the second ball. Now we have lost 4 and drawn 1 of the last five games, Taylor is not to blame its the referee (something Joey was also berated about) or the players, hmm what is it, are the players now not playing for Taylor ? imo, playing Hoole is a mistake (an opinion Taylor seemed to share during his post match interview) although the worse decision is why anybody would play Grant in centre midfield is beyond me. I am prepared to play along with Taylor in the kings clothes thing, if it keeps the forum from going into melt down, but surely he needs to stop standing on the touch line simply glaring why his arms are closely crossed for 90 minutes, and go out and sign a rake of players sooner rather than later, as non of us want to be flirting with relegation. Hoping for better things on Tuesday night. Utg MT is a league (or two) above the quality of manager, and man, that Joey is. Give him the time and support that Joey got, the club will be a far far better position than it currently is on and off the pitch. Not sure there's any real evidence he's a better manager, Exeter were only ever a mid L1 team whilst he was manager, which is what we now seem to be, I said when the team sheet was announced why was Hoole starting over Connelly and MT seemed of a similar opinion after the match. The decision to move LT from the wing to a more central position was equally baffling, then to stick with the same formation with different personnel for the whole match just plain odd/depressing. MT's got a big couple of weeks coming up as he needs to sign some quality players and also start winning games before we get dragged into a relegation fight. |
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Post by singupgas on Jan 20, 2024 20:06:11 GMT
MT is a league (or two) above the quality of manager, and man, that Joey is. Give him the time and support that Joey got, the club will be a far far better position than it currently is on and off the pitch. Not sure there's any real evidence he's a better manager, Exeter were only ever a mid L1 team whilst he was manager, which is what we now seem to be, I said when the team sheet was announced why was Hoole starting over Connelly and MT seemed of a similar opinion after the match. The decision to move LT from the wing to a more central position was equally baffling, then to stick with the same formation with different personnel for the whole match just plain odd/depressing. MT's got a big couple of weeks coming up as he needs to sign some quality players and also start winning games before we get dragged into a relegation fight. Agreed. MT made some questionable decisions today, which hopefully he recognises were wrong. Why Beefy didn't start instead of Hoole the main one for me. I did like MTs tone post match, it really wasn't good enough from some of players today. We are in real danger of sliding if the team don't find a way of playing. We need to make the most of this window, if we need to pay slightly more to get quality in now it is worth it. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 20, 2024 20:08:36 GMT
I think bit of a overreaction that we need offload 80% of the team. I do think that we should be looking to strengthen the squad this window. Get players playing together sooner and identifying a regular 11 and finish the season strongly. Today's game, probably up there for being one of poorest. For 40 minutes in first half it was like watching Sunday morning football, disorganised, defensively awful and unable to string passes together. Second half was improved, Blackpool seemed happy to defend for 45 not offering anything really, but we couldn't break them down and get shots away. What I am struggling with is to see what sort of team we are trying to be. There isn't much link up play, no pattern of play. We have gone from playing some attractive football to looking bit of shambles. Players contacts up that i don't think will be renewed will be: Rossiter Marquis Finley Gordon Friend Also will leave: Vale Cox Crama In contract but would try to move on: Hunt Wilson Ward When you look at it like that it's a bit of a rebuild again and our transfer policy needs to change. Just like Atkins never signed players that had played less than 30 games for 3 consecutive seasons regardless of who they were and past pedigree we need to employ that mindset again. Nothing wrong with having the odd project with injury like we once did with Bodin but the squad DC built all played 30 plus games and we gave him a good season to get fit. Currently we have 4 Bodins as what would be classed as first on the team sheet if fit and that's too many. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 20, 2024 20:13:07 GMT
After Joey's sacking, the pearl grasping morally superior on here were saying how T2 Oops Taylor had got all the players playing for him, by moving away from passing the ball out from the back reverting to 1980s kick long and hope we win the second ball. Now we have lost 4 and drawn 1 of the last five games, Taylor is not to blame its the referee (something Joey was also berated about) or the players, hmm what is it, are the players now not playing for Taylor ? imo, playing Hoole is a mistake (an opinion Taylor seemed to share during his post match interview) although the worse decision is why anybody would play Grant in centre midfield is beyond me. I am prepared to play along with Taylor in the kings clothes thing, if it keeps the forum from going into melt down, but surely he needs to stop standing on the touch line simply glaring why his arms are closely crossed for 90 minutes, and go out and sign a rake of players sooner rather than later, as non of us want to be flirting with relegation. Hoping for better things on Tuesday night. Utg Who would you have played in the defensive/holding midfield role instead of Grant? I wouldn't have played that formation with a DCM. You could have played 3 at the back but 2 deeper lying CMs in Evans and LMC Have Thomas and Vale as WBs with Brown, Collins and Martin leading the line. Or gone 424 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2024 20:17:37 GMT
Who would you have played in the defensive/holding midfield role instead of Grant? I wouldn't have played that formation with a DCM. You could have played 3 at the back but 2 deeper lying CMs in Evans and LMC Have Thomas and Vale as WBs with Brown, Collins and Martin leading the line. Or gone 424 Then we'd have the issues of a CM who couldn't tackle, I'm not sure Brown is any real improvement on Grant even if they play in different roles. PLus MT clearly wanted to drop Collins. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 20, 2024 20:19:05 GMT
Kyle Joseph looks decent for them. Didn't he choose Oxford over us for a loan last season? Oxford paid Swansea £7.5k/week for him last season. Fact! |
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Post by xenongas on Jan 20, 2024 20:21:44 GMT
Not sure there's any real evidence he's a better manager, Exeter were only ever a mid L1 team whilst he was manager, which is what we now seem to be, I said when the team sheet was announced why was Hoole starting over Connelly and MT seemed of a similar opinion after the match. The decision to move LT from the wing to a more central position was equally baffling, then to stick with the same formation with different personnel for the whole match just plain odd/depressing. MT's got a big couple of weeks coming up as he needs to sign some quality players and also start winning games before we get dragged into a relegation fight. Agreed. MT made some questionable decisions today, which hopefully he recognises were wrong. Why Beefy didn't start instead of Hoole the main one for me. I did like MTs tone post match, it really wasn't good enough from some of players today. We are in real danger of sliding if the team don't find a way of playing. We need to make the most of this window, if we need to pay slightly more to get quality in now it is worth it. Everything I've heard from MT so far suggests he is willing to learn from his mistakes. I do not think he's stubbornly stuck in his ways. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 20, 2024 20:23:24 GMT
I don't think that was a pen. If you were stood with a clear view of it like me, you would have seen it was a definite penalty. |
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Post by xenongas on Jan 20, 2024 20:24:50 GMT
Only player I disagree with here is marquis. I think him and Martin are perfect for teaching a young striker. Disagree. Marquis has been woeful much of the time he's been here. Has the odd good game but not much. Offered nothing in the last 5 he's come on as sub. Came on today and barely noticed him on the pitch. May as well not have bothered. I don't think he's a 5 minute at the end player. Like Martin, he's a starter that hassles then someone else can come on and be an impact in the last half hour. I just think these guys have more value to give during the week than just half 4 to 5 on a Saturday. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 20, 2024 20:30:01 GMT
I didn't think it was a foul either. I didn't see either defender make a challenge or unnatural movement. Collins just ran into them. They had every right to hold their position. That's a foul in the modern game and it was a pen. The Blackpool commentary also acknowledged that they'd 'got away with it'. Doesn't matter anyway, we deserved f**k all for that performance. Spot on Simon, had a clear view of it and it was a definite penalty. The ref was stood still yards away from it and didn’t have a clue about anything that went on in the game, so no surprise to me he didn’t give it and as for the linesman ten yards away, he didn’t have a clue either. We were very poor today but the three officials were even worse. |
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