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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 21, 2024 8:59:14 GMT
Hoole apparently started as MT wanted a right-footed, or perhaps he just wanted to see if Hoole was up to L1 before the window closes? Hoole was so poor I think it put Taylor off his own game, at one point he was telling at him for giving the ball away.
MT went down the DC route of needless tinkering re LT & Hoole in my view, given we have been playing reasonably well at the Mem. Unless Collins is off and he's looking to LT to replace him.
I do now fear another demise like last seasons.
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Post by gasify on Jan 21, 2024 9:01:48 GMT
After Joey's sacking, the pearl grasping morally superior on here were saying how T2 Oops Taylor had got all the players playing for him, by moving away from passing the ball out from the back reverting to 1980s kick long and hope we win the second ball. Now we have lost 4 and drawn 1 of the last five games, Taylor is not to blame its the referee (something Joey was also berated about) or the players, hmm what is it, are the players now not playing for Taylor ? imo, playing Hoole is a mistake (an opinion Taylor seemed to share during his post match interview) although the worse decision is why anybody would play Grant in centre midfield is beyond me. I am prepared to play along with Taylor in the kings clothes thing, if it keeps the forum from going into melt down, but surely he needs to stop standing on the touch line simply glaring why his arms are closely crossed for 90 minutes, and go out and sign a rake of players sooner rather than later, as non of us want to be flirting with relegation. Hoping for better things on Tuesday night. Utg You do realise that we have an injury crisis in midfield? Who would you have played in midfield? Finley? Ward? |
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Post by gashead79 on Jan 21, 2024 9:02:32 GMT
Not been on here since before the game so sorry if any of this is just repeating. Why did Hoole start over Connolly? I like Hoole but he is not a CB! The first 20 we looked like a team who didn’t know how to play any position! Got punished. Was worried it was gonna be a hatful. fair play, we improved and Blackpool stopped pushing for more. Poor Connor had an awful day. Couldn’t have been anywhere near 100%. He’s allowed one tho. Is he now suspended? Grant did well after the first 20 and the midfield 3 were really the only ones I would score above a 6. We need a cm and some pace in this team asap. Starting half's like we do is not acceptable. Teams usually try to impose their will in the first 10 minutes minutes so our sluggish, relaxed approach does us no favours, especially at home. We have some good players but they don't play to their strengths. Short passing and interchange really suits our midfield and strikers, so to resort to lumping it is only giving possession away time and time again. If we are going to play long, then it needs to be into Martin, and he needs players off of his flick or touch. We are really disorganised with no apparent gameplan. It's as if we need to think about what to do when we have the ball. Blackpool looked like they all knew what they were doing. The players played with purpose. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jan 21, 2024 9:05:10 GMT
Hoole apparently started as MT wanted a right-footed, or perhaps he just wanted to see if Hoole was up to L1 before the window closes? Hoole was so poor I think it put Taylor off his own game, at one point he was telling at him for giving the ball away. MT went down the DC route of needless tinkering re LT & Hoole in my view, given we have been playing reasonably well at the Mem. Unless Collins is off and he's looking to LT to replace him. I do now fear another demise like last seasons. With our season as good as over after yesterday I think a demise is a little strong we have key players out injured and shuffled the pack yesterday and we still should have got something out the game without overly playing well. Motivation will be the hardest thing now and will show what MT is all about. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2024 9:07:06 GMT
After Joey's sacking, the pearl grasping morally superior on here were saying how T2 Oops Taylor had got all the players playing for him, by moving away from passing the ball out from the back reverting to 1980s kick long and hope we win the second ball. Now we have lost 4 and drawn 1 of the last five games, Taylor is not to blame its the referee (something Joey was also berated about) or the players, hmm what is it, are the players now not playing for Taylor ? imo, playing Hoole is a mistake (an opinion Taylor seemed to share during his post match interview) although the worse decision is why anybody would play Grant in centre midfield is beyond me. I am prepared to play along with Taylor in the kings clothes thing, if it keeps the forum from going into melt down, but surely he needs to stop standing on the touch line simply glaring why his arms are closely crossed for 90 minutes, and go out and sign a rake of players sooner rather than later, as non of us want to be flirting with relegation. Hoping for better things on Tuesday night. Utg You do realise that we have an injury crisis in midfield? Who would you have played in midfield? Finley? Ward? you adapt to what is available. Sticking with the same system did for us yesterday. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 21, 2024 9:08:19 GMT
Just got back..
A wonderful time out and about, the weather was conducive for an apple roam and great to see establishments thrive in tranquility and anticipation of forthcoming match early doors..
An interesting time with some of you!
Anyhoos, onto some less important matters..
Are we on the beach? It was Blackpool!?
I would say, no but season is over.... but we now have little to play for, apart from pride. The risk is we slip into the paradigm of pre relegation form where a win draw or loss is irrelevant.....I know we're a working progress in transition, but there are certain dangers that come along with that.
We are back to a very quiet Mem at times.
I think the paragraph above very much lends itself to that.
Okies....keeper made some good saves, one punch out, but his general distribution and command of area, poor. Also his coming out of box belshaw- like left a lot to be desired.
It's now a given that opposition teams bang in set pieces under the crossbar, which he struggles with and so do our defence. I like Cox, he's young and energetic, will probably play at a higher level than we will ever achieve.....just old fashioned and prefer an experienced goalkeeper instead of blooding someone else's.
This leads to a change in continuity in defence. Nice to see Hunt back, who done ok. Just ok. I thought Connor Taylor ever reliable was off the pace, and Crama pending one disaster was pick of the backline that kept dembele and rhodes quiet. But the goals we conceded, I felt the whole unit could have done better..
Midfield missing Finley and I thought we done ok, but Blackpool were better than us, we most of the time lost our battles, Blackpool were quick to get the second ball and looked hungrier....we were again lethargic in possession, attacking and pace.
Pick of the mid, my m o m AE with a very hardworking performance. Strong player covered much ground and stick to captain's task well.
Well done CM....the goal tally continues with cheeky backheeled flip!
I thought Blackpool were well organised, pretty much outplayed us first half. I really liked their no15 left back with fair hair, we just couldn't get anything going down that side - LT switched sides for a while. Their keeper picked regulation catches out the air almost unchallenged at times, also made crucial save v LT.
People will moan at the officials again and rightly so....book a keeper for time waisting, but you're never gonna send him off, so he'll carry on.... baffling decisions left wondering why? And inconsistency..... I'm not sure about penalty shout but leaning towards yes, but it's AC isn't it and words got around....?
To conclude.
We are typical in transition club with new man working out what he wants and who he wants.... it's going to be ugly and simpering for a while. That coupled with the most horrendous injury list as it feels someone gets injured every match, is a recipe for beach football.
We're not far away from it.
Apathy await.
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Post by gasify on Jan 21, 2024 9:09:10 GMT
I think bit of a overreaction that we need offload 80% of the team. I do think that we should be looking to strengthen the squad this window. Get players playing together sooner and identifying a regular 11 and finish the season strongly. Today's game, probably up there for being one of poorest. For 40 minutes in first half it was like watching Sunday morning football, disorganised, defensively awful and unable to string passes together. Second half was improved, Blackpool seemed happy to defend for 45 not offering anything really, but we couldn't break them down and get shots away. What I am struggling with is to see what sort of team we are trying to be. There isn't much link up play, no pattern of play. We have gone from playing some attractive football to looking bit of shambles. Sat in the south stand yesterday, I could see some good link up play in the final third. We sliced them apart at times, just couldn't finish. We created a couple of 1 v1 with the keeper in the 1st half. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jan 21, 2024 9:11:49 GMT
You do realise that we have an injury crisis in midfield? Who would you have played in midfield? Finley? Ward? you adapt to what is available. Sticking with the same system did for us yesterday. I agree with that I was certainly expecting a different set up to what we have been seeing recently and with what was available to us. Personally would have liked to have seen a back 4 with Hunt and Gordon as the full backs and pushing Vale and Thomas further up and out wide in a 4231 at least you have more options to get crosses into a striker who yes isn't that mobile but certainly knows where to be and knows where the net is. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 21, 2024 9:15:48 GMT
Disagree. Marquis has been woeful much of the time he's been here. Has the odd good game but not much. Offered nothing in the last 5 he's come on as sub. Came on today and barely noticed him on the pitch. May as well not have bothered. He should be starting imo. Martin as the option for last 30. Really? From where I sit Marquis offers nothing than giving away free kicks and being mostly offside. I'd start Martin every time. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 21, 2024 9:21:37 GMT
After Joey's sacking, the pearl grasping morally superior on here were saying how T2 Oops Taylor had got all the players playing for him, by moving away from passing the ball out from the back reverting to 1980s kick long and hope we win the second ball. Now we have lost 4 and drawn 1 of the last five games, Taylor is not to blame its the referee (something Joey was also berated about) or the players, hmm what is it, are the players now not playing for Taylor ? imo, playing Hoole is a mistake (an opinion Taylor seemed to share during his post match interview) although the worse decision is why anybody would play Grant in centre midfield is beyond me. I am prepared to play along with Taylor in the kings clothes thing, if it keeps the forum from going into melt down, but surely he needs to stop standing on the touch line simply glaring why his arms are closely crossed for 90 minutes, and go out and sign a rake of players sooner rather than later, as non of us want to be flirting with relegation. Hoping for better things on Tuesday night. Utg Taylor doesn't have available: Ward Finley Rossiter Friend Wilson Half fit players Hunt Martin Taylor Whatever isn't broken is half fit, mostly through either being never fully fit or being overworked. Whatever is left over isn't good enough with the exception of Evans, Thomas and Collins. But apparently this is the best squad ever. £4.5m budget spent on this mind. Barton was a fraud. |
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Post by gasify on Jan 21, 2024 9:23:51 GMT
Hoole apparently started as MT wanted a right-footed, or perhaps he just wanted to see if Hoole was up to L1 before the window closes? Hoole was so poor I think it put Taylor off his own game, at one point he was telling at him for giving the ball away. MT went down the DC route of needless tinkering re LT & Hoole in my view, given we have been playing reasonably well at the Mem. Unless Collins is off and he's looking to LT to replace him. I do now fear another demise like last seasons. In the post match interview he said he wasn't aware of any offers for Collins. If Collins was off, you would say something to try and get a bidding war going? |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 21, 2024 9:26:12 GMT
Hoole apparently started as MT wanted a right-footed, or perhaps he just wanted to see if Hoole was up to L1 before the window closes? Hoole was so poor I think it put Taylor off his own game, at one point he was telling at him for giving the ball away. MT went down the DC route of needless tinkering re LT & Hoole in my view, given we have been playing reasonably well at the Mem. Unless Collins is off and he's looking to LT to replace him. I do now fear another demise like last seasons. I could understand Hunt coming in and playing Luke further forward. Buy Hunt was woeful and Hoole, was also woeful, so the whole right hand side contributed to both goals. Second half, Hoole went off, LT played as wing back again and was marked out the game because Blackpool could afford to add an extra man as Grant and Marquis were totally ineffective through the middle. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Jan 21, 2024 9:29:25 GMT
After Joey's sacking, the pearl grasping morally superior on here were saying how T2 Oops Taylor had got all the players playing for him, by moving away from passing the ball out from the back reverting to 1980s kick long and hope we win the second ball. Now we have lost 4 and drawn 1 of the last five games, Taylor is not to blame its the referee (something Joey was also berated about) or the players, hmm what is it, are the players now not playing for Taylor ? imo, playing Hoole is a mistake (an opinion Taylor seemed to share during his post match interview) although the worse decision is why anybody would play Grant in centre midfield is beyond me. I am prepared to play along with Taylor in the kings clothes thing, if it keeps the forum from going into melt down, but surely he needs to stop standing on the touch line simply glaring why his arms are closely crossed for 90 minutes, and go out and sign a rake of players sooner rather than later, as non of us want to be flirting with relegation. Hoping for better things on Tuesday night. Utg Taylor doesn't have available: Ward Finley Rossiter Friend Wilson Half fit players Hunt Martin Taylor Whatever isn't broken is half fit, mostly through either being never fully fit or being overworked. Whatever is left over isn't good enough with the exception of Evans, Thomas and Collins. But apparently this is the best squad ever. £4.5m budget spent on this mind. Barton was a fraud. Careful now. We aren’t allowed to mention that persons name on this thread, any inkling of anything like that will you getting called a bellend. |
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Post by gasify on Jan 21, 2024 9:29:53 GMT
He should be starting imo. Martin as the option for last 30. Really? From where I sit Marquis offers nothing than giving away free kicks and being mostly offside. I'd start Martin every time. Starting Marquis puts their defense under pressure from the start. He hunts the ball and quite often the defence panics and makes a mistake or makes a long clearance to our defence and we then have posession. Maybe Martin after a pre season might do that, but he doesn't at the moment. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 21, 2024 9:35:23 GMT
Really? From where I sit Marquis offers nothing than giving away free kicks and being mostly offside. I'd start Martin every time. Starting Marquis puts their defense under pressure from the start. He hunts the ball and quite often the defence panics and makes a mistake or makes a long clearance to our defence and we then have posession. Maybe Martin after a pre season might do that, but he doesn't at the moment. My counter to that is Marquis should run tired defences ragged if he's a ball hunter. He offered nothing when he's come on the past few games and if anything made us even worse. Martin is much more physical than Marquis. Marquis wins nothing in the air and is outmuscled very easily. A tired Chris Martin was still winning flicks and strong on the ball. Honestly Marquis is finished at L1 level. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 21, 2024 9:35:44 GMT
Hoole apparently started as MT wanted a right-footed, or perhaps he just wanted to see if Hoole was up to L1 before the window closes? Hoole was so poor I think it put Taylor off his own game, at one point he was telling at him for giving the ball away. MT went down the DC route of needless tinkering re LT & Hoole in my view, given we have been playing reasonably well at the Mem. Unless Collins is off and he's looking to LT to replace him. I do now fear another demise like last seasons. I could understand Hunt coming in and playing Luke further forward. Buy Hunt was woeful and Hoole, was also woeful, so the whole right hand side contributed to both goals. Second half, Hoole went off, LT played as wing back again and was marked out the game because Blackpool could afford to add an extra man as Grant and Marquis were totally ineffective through the middle. One post you're saying JB is a fraud, the next we lost due to MT's team selection etc? After yesterday's and Wednesday's game I do wonder if MT is out of his depth. Why didn't he go to a flat back 4 on Wednesday at halftime instead of going gung for a second, then yesterday's starting line was a total disaster. He also left it far too late to bring on Collins when it was clear we weren't creating anything in the second half. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 21, 2024 9:37:39 GMT
Really? From where I sit Marquis offers nothing than giving away free kicks and being mostly offside. I'd start Martin every time. Starting Marquis puts their defense under pressure from the start. He hunts the ball and quite often the defence panics and makes a mistake or makes a long clearance to our defence and we then have posession. Maybe Martin after a pre season might do that, but he doesn't at the moment. Are you seriously expecting a 36 year old lump to suddenly start chasing defenders around? If we want that type of striker then Martin's the wrong one. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 21, 2024 9:41:47 GMT
Starting Marquis puts their defense under pressure from the start. He hunts the ball and quite often the defence panics and makes a mistake or makes a long clearance to our defence and we then have posession. Maybe Martin after a pre season might do that, but he doesn't at the moment. My counter to that is Marquis should run tired defences ragged if he's a ball hunter. He offered nothing when he's come on the past few games and if anything made us even worse. Martin is much more physical than Marquis. Marquis wins nothing in the air and is outmuscled very easily. A tired Chris Martin was still winning flicks and strong on the ball. Honestly Marquis is finished at L1 level. I've no idea why but Marquis always looks better when he starts, given Martin played 90 mins on Wednesday you'd have thought starting with Marquis was the obvious choice. You sense he might be off this month, probably to be replaced by a cheaper loan option. |
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Post by gasify on Jan 21, 2024 9:42:34 GMT
Starting Marquis puts their defense under pressure from the start. He hunts the ball and quite often the defence panics and makes a mistake or makes a long clearance to our defence and we then have posession. Maybe Martin after a pre season might do that, but he doesn't at the moment. Are you seriously expecting a 36 year old lump to suddenly start chasing defenders around? If we want that type of striker then Martin's the wrong one. Where in my post am I expecting him to chase defenders around? I used the word "Maybe". Maybe is a long way from expecting. |
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Post by tbonegas on Jan 21, 2024 9:42:57 GMT
He should be starting imo. Martin as the option for last 30. Really? From where I sit Marquis offers nothing than giving away free kicks and being mostly offside. I'd start Martin every time. My thoughts on Marquis as well. |
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