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Post by gashead79 on Feb 11, 2024 9:16:16 GMT
No its not, but what it does do is makes you think that we are difficult crack at home. Now we think we cannot win at home. That's a bit of an issue for a few reasons. How quickly people forget beating Portsmouth, Charlton and Oxford at home, all inside the last month and a bit... Maybe, but that doesn't count for much when your home form reads LLWLL with 2 defeats in a week to lowly sides. |
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Post by alasitsgas on Feb 11, 2024 9:20:38 GMT
We'll be OK but it'll be nervy. You can fool some of the people some of the time E.T.C no need for new stand back to the loyal 5000 sack the interviewer of managers what was wrong with mangan now we have a new rebuild next year again. I think another new team and no promotion. where have we heard this before. If you believe otherwise please tell me your supplier. |
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Post by kampucheagas on Feb 11, 2024 9:23:28 GMT
After putting the squad under the bus and reversing it again after calling them out as mentally and physically weak then the 12 points we need may be of concern now What’s he supposed to say? We all know it These players need to know that the league they are playing in requires at the very least a high level of physical commitment If they have any respect for the fans who turn up in numbers to pay them, they will roll their sleeves up and do the basics The worry is that we have scrambled around the loan market to bulk up our depleted squad and these kids won’t have experienced great big lumps in their cosy higher league academies No disrespect to them, but they weren’t what we needed I didn’t read throwing under buses in his statement, he hasn’t singled out players individually, he’s merely stating the bloody obvious! We are weak collectively and need to show some grit if we want to progress UTG |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 11, 2024 9:28:57 GMT
How motivated would you be at work if the boss kept repeating you were useless? I don't believe they are mentally weak, they just can't cope with the physical nature of the game, which is hardly their fault.
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Post by Gas1977 on Feb 11, 2024 9:30:50 GMT
Why wouldn’t he, he choose the players and they wanted him to get the job, football players are some of the most vindictive, selfish people going. Wes, you are a real football man, Grant, Marquis, Gordon, not just one, you can carry one player. You can’t carry 3 in a team, as a scout, would you recommend any of these three to any Div1 side? The wouldn’t recommend any to a side in Div2 next season going for promotion either Some of the players aren't good enough and we've got injuries, that's football in League One. What has Taylor actually improved, because his results, performances and signings don't look an upgrade? Hes improved nothing. Football is awful to watch, the way the team is set up is miles off it. We have a great nucleus at rovers (4/5 players) and I fear that’s going to be wasted with a poor manager and a set of poor & unmotivated players around them. |
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Post by supergas on Feb 11, 2024 9:36:25 GMT
After putting the squad under the bus and reversing it again after calling them out as mentally and physically weak then the 12 points we need may be of concern now What’s he supposed to say? We all know it These players need to know that the league they are playing in requires at the very least a high level of physical commitment If they have any respect for the fans who turn up in numbers to pay them, they will roll their sleeves up and do the basics The worry is that we have scrambled around the loan market to bulk up our depleted squad and these kids won’t have experienced great big lumps in their cosy higher league academies No disrespect to them, but they weren’t what we needed I didn’t read throwing under buses in his statement, he hasn’t singled out players individually, he’s merely stating the bloody obvious! We are weak collectively and need to show some grit if we want to progress UTG Exactly this, he's probably said it multiple times in private but it's clearly not having the desired effect.... ...public criticism is not always a bad thing... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2024 9:38:04 GMT
This is good Si, what it shows is over 20 players (subs as well) our brilliant squad which Topper raves about, can’t get a point off Burton over two games. It kind of sums it all up doesn’t it, could anyone else do any better🤷🏼♂️ Yet we've took 4 points of Portsmouth, outplayed Barnsley, beaten Bolton away etc etc But this is the issue, 4 points off Pompey with two different managers, Barton spanked Wigan, but what is clear is……….the squad is weak and inconsistent, the first 13 can beat anyone. This isn’t MT’s inconsistent squad, he’s been given pocket money in the window to spend, why are we not giving him the summer window and patience? |
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 11, 2024 9:39:30 GMT
We are absolutely worst than under Barton. Thanks, liberal lefties, for getting him out and potentially getting us relegated. Never mind, we will be top in the tolerance and kindness table. Before you bite, yes it’s a WUM. With a grain of truth in the core. Go woke, go broke. Go woke, go down. 🤣 Cry more ham face That’s the closest you’ll get to pork, you’re as limp as a charity wristband. |
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 11, 2024 9:54:13 GMT
Yet we've took 4 points of Portsmouth, outplayed Barnsley, beaten Bolton away etc etc But this is the issue, 4 points off Pompey with two different managers, Barton spanked Wigan, but what is clear is……….the squad is weak and inconsistent, the first 13 can beat anyone. This isn’t MT’s inconsistent squad, he’s been given pocket money in the window to spend, why are we not giving him the summer window and patience? I will give him time. However, the jury is very much still out. The performances at home, bar the Oxford game have been absolutely disgraceful, quite frankly. Bizarre team selections, terrible game management and the substitutions have been mind boggling. I was expecting far more from him and the team, regardless of it not being his team mostly. Other clubs usually get some sort of manager bounce, whether it's their players or not. We haven't at all, we've got worse if anything, especially at home. We'd only lost once before MT arrived, we've lost twice as many in a just a few days. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 11, 2024 10:14:31 GMT
That’s the closest you’ll get to pork, you’re as limp as a charity wristband. Stop fishing and wind your neck in Gulf, here's only room for one alpha male on this board, and that's Bolders. 😃 |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 11, 2024 10:17:14 GMT
How motivated would you be at work if the boss kept repeating you were useless? I don't believe they are mentally weak, they just can't cope with the physical nature of the game, which is hardly their fault. I would be extremely motivated, firstly out of embarrassment that I'd been so sh** in the first place, and also because I'd want to prove him wrong. If the players can't accept criticism after that performance then Taylor is absolutely right, they are mentally weak. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 11, 2024 10:21:28 GMT
How motivated would you be at work if the boss kept repeating you were useless? I don't believe they are mentally weak, they just can't cope with the physical nature of the game, which is hardly their fault. That's fine, just don't pick up your pay cheque and toodle off.. |
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Post by CheshireGas on Feb 11, 2024 10:23:48 GMT
Yet we've took 4 points of Portsmouth, outplayed Barnsley, beaten Bolton away etc etc But this is the issue, 4 points off Pompey with two different managers, Barton spanked Wigan, but what is clear is……….the squad is weak and inconsistent, the first 13 can beat anyone. This isn’t MT’s inconsistent squad, he’s been given pocket money in the window to spend, why are we not giving him the summer window and patience? Agree. Barton spanked Wigan but then lost to the eventually relegated Accrington who bullied us off the park just as Fleetwood and Burton did. This is a steep learning curve for our loanees. Sadly others will benefit from their eventual toughening up.... People gave Barton a relegation and shedloads of time. Something they won't give to Taylor! |
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Post by CheshireGas on Feb 11, 2024 10:29:08 GMT
How motivated would you be at work if the boss kept repeating you were useless? I don't believe they are mentally weak, they just can't cope with the physical nature of the game, which is hardly their fault. I'm a contractor. If I don't do my job to the best of my ability, and am not prepared to learn then I would be told straight. Then if I didn't buck up I would be out. I've not had it personally but seen many short term/contract workers lose their jobs through not doing what they are asked or performing to the best of their ability or attitude. What do you want Taylor to do, wrap them in cotton wool, play for them? Football is a tough gig, that's why so few players make it. |
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 11, 2024 10:31:31 GMT
But this is the issue, 4 points off Pompey with two different managers, Barton spanked Wigan, but what is clear is……….the squad is weak and inconsistent, the first 13 can beat anyone. This isn’t MT’s inconsistent squad, he’s been given pocket money in the window to spend, why are we not giving him the summer window and patience? Agree. Barton spanked Wigan but then lost to the eventually relegated Accrington who bullied us off the park just as Fleetwood and Burton did. This is a steep learning curve for our loanees. Sadly others will benefit from their eventual toughening up.... People gave Barton a relegation and shedloads of time. Something they won't give to Taylor! This squad is far better than the one Garner, Tisdale, Widdrington and then Barton couldn't get a tune out of. That team was a disgrace This one although disjointed, isn't, there is quality within it. However the last 2 home performances are as bad as anything the Garner/Tisdale/Widdrington/Barton team put out imo |
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Post by yattongas on Feb 11, 2024 10:33:51 GMT
How motivated would you be at work if the boss kept repeating you were useless? I don't believe they are mentally weak, they just can't cope with the physical nature of the game, which is hardly their fault. I'm a contractor. If I don't do my job to the best of my ability, and am not prepared to learn then I would be told straight. Then if I didn't buck up I would be out. I've not had it personally but seen many short term/contract workers lose their jobs through not doing what they are asked or performing to the best of their ability or attitude. What do you want Taylor to do, wrap them in cotton wool, play for them? Football is a tough gig, that's why so few players make it. Exactly Ches , it’s PROFESSIONAL football where you get paid to produce. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 11, 2024 10:40:23 GMT
Agree. Barton spanked Wigan but then lost to the eventually relegated Accrington who bullied us off the park just as Fleetwood and Burton did. This is a steep learning curve for our loanees. Sadly others will benefit from their eventual toughening up.... People gave Barton a relegation and shedloads of time. Something they won't give to Taylor! This squad is far better than the one Garner, Tisdale, Widdrington and then Barton couldn't get a tune out of. That team was a disgrace This one although disjointed, isn't, there is quality within it. However the last 2 home performances are as bad as anything the Garner/Tisdale/Widdrington/Barton team put out imo I'm not convinced the squad is that much better than Garners. 6 or 7 of them perhaps, many of which are currently injured. |
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Post by CheshireGas on Feb 11, 2024 10:43:13 GMT
Agree. Barton spanked Wigan but then lost to the eventually relegated Accrington who bullied us off the park just as Fleetwood and Burton did. This is a steep learning curve for our loanees. Sadly others will benefit from their eventual toughening up.... People gave Barton a relegation and shedloads of time. Something they won't give to Taylor! This squad is far better than the one Garner, Tisdale, Widdrington and then Barton couldn't get a tune out of. That team was a disgrace This one although disjointed, isn't, there is quality within it. However the last 2 home performances are as bad as anything the Garner/Tisdale/Widdrington/Barton team put out imo Can't argue with that Gastafari, it seems he is now saying in public what he is obviously trying to get across in private! At least fans know he understands the issues. Now he has to sort it, with time and patience from fans. But look at the teams ahead, if they play ugly, don't expect a result! |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Feb 11, 2024 11:02:18 GMT
...are better managers being turned away? Have we ditched better ones to bring in Taylor? Incidentally our previous managers record against Burton was P4 W1 L3 and his record managing us in League One is still worse than Taylor... Somebody else posted JB lost one home game all this season? Now we're looking like we'll do well to avoid defeat in any of our remaining home games! If we Finley and Taylor aren't back soon and we don't improve when they return then you do wonder where the next point is coming from. Under JB we at least thought we might win every game. Great comment, currently after this weeks fiasco we go to Stevenage on Tuesday thinking if and when we will ever win again. |
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 11, 2024 11:57:19 GMT
This squad is far better than the one Garner, Tisdale, Widdrington and then Barton couldn't get a tune out of. That team was a disgrace This one although disjointed, isn't, there is quality within it. However the last 2 home performances are as bad as anything the Garner/Tisdale/Widdrington/Barton team put out imo I'm not convinced the squad is that much better than Garners. 6 or 7 of them perhaps, many of which are currently injured. How many of that squad that got relegated would get into this one? I suppose we already have 2 players still in this one, Luke McCormick & Josh Grant. So we'll discount those. Imo Luke Leahy definitely, I think Brandon Hanlan would do alright in this team, possibly Sammy Nicholson and Annsi Jaakola. The rest of this current squad is far superior imo, of course most of them being out injured doesn't help, agreed. |
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