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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 13, 2024 8:38:33 GMT
The ten clubs who opposed the new deal for the EFL have been named.
They are Liverpool, Arsenal,Chelsea,Tottenham,Villa,Wolves,Notts Forest,Crystal Palace, Bourmouth and West Ham.
Apparently they are all prepared to go to court to stop the deal going through as they think it will be cheaper than coughing up for the deal.
That shows what they think of clubs like ours.
Shame the lot of them.
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 13, 2024 8:47:42 GMT
"Important words from @waelalqadi @official_BRFC on why it’s in @premierleague interests to help @efl clubs with a proper ‘New Deal’…”We at Bristol Rovers gave Jarell Quansah and Elliot Anderson men’s football and both now are established top-flight players, with their respective clubs (#LFC and #NUFC). Surely their combined market value one day will be much more than the extra amount the Premier League are haggling over? “This season we took Harvey Vale on loan from #CFC and he has played the most amount of minutes than any Chelsea loanee so far this season, playing over 2,400 minutes for Bristol Rovers. We are developing Harvey and building up his physicality to a level where his body can withstand playing Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday fixtures at a consistent level and in a very competitive league, something which Under-21 football will never come close to providing. “Each club in the EFL has many loanees playing, learning and developing before returning as assets to their parent clubs. Maybe…we should discuss future development fees for our loan players when they are eventually sold by their parent clubs? I’m sure Mr. Boehly at Chelsea will have plans to sell Harvey for £40m+ after we have developed his game for them! The Premier League need the EFL, and the quicker they realise (and pay for) the added value we provide to them the better. They need to act decisively and quickly before it becomes too late for some clubs.” An actual reasonable statement from Wally! |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 13, 2024 9:14:19 GMT
Brilliant words from our President, who has hit the nail right on the head. Fair play to him.
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Post by wertongas on Mar 13, 2024 9:20:11 GMT
There are things we and other lower league clubs can do to stop helping these greedy scumbags.
One is to stop taking their players on loan instead bring on more of our own youngsters and give them a chance. That is what has messed up the fixtures this season, with all the Saturday cancellations.
Another which I am doing is cancelling my sky subscription as that is where they get a big chunk of their money from, although that is my personal choice.
Another would be to boycott the micky mouse cup, which mostly there for their gain .
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 13, 2024 9:35:30 GMT
The same AFC Bournemouth who I remember begging for money with collection buckets when they were having financial difficulties?
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Post by supergas on Mar 13, 2024 9:43:21 GMT
I'm all for the Premier League paying their fair share - in fact more than their fair share if we can get it - based on the fact that without the rest of the pyramid below them, they wouldn't be at the top of it...
But there are other issues I'm sure some clubs are looking at and are worried about - things that if they could be fixed would solve a lot of problems at many levels of the game. Player wages need some form of limit and agents fees need to be stopped/transferred to being played by players' salaries after tax. Currently all that money (£bns) coming into the sport almost immediately leaves it, and that's where the real problem at the top of the game is
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 13, 2024 9:49:28 GMT
A loan strike would be an interesting proposal. It's kind of Catch 22 though because, let's be honest, Rovers have benefitted massively from the loan market.
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Post by curlywurly on Mar 13, 2024 10:12:06 GMT
A loan strike would be an interesting proposal. It's kind of Catch 22 though because, let's be honest, Rovers have benefitted massively from the loan market. The problem is that they hold the whip hand and all the money. Despite the best of intentions, the fan's boycott of the EFL trophy just confirmed that the majority of lower tier clubs are still keen to receive charity from the Premier League.
Nothing the EFL clubs do can overcome this greed, but perhaps the Football Governance Bill might.
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Post by Quarters on Mar 13, 2024 10:19:06 GMT
A loan strike would be an interesting proposal. It's kind of Catch 22 though because, let's be honest, Rovers have benefitted massively from the loan market. The problem is that they hold the whip hand and all the money. Despite the best of intentions, the fan's boycott of the EFL trophy just confirmed that the majority of lower tier clubs are still keen to receive charity from the Premier League.
Nothing the EFL clubs do can overcome this greed, but perhaps the Football Governance Bill might.
With a general election due, the football governance Bill will not get thru. Prem clubs realise this hence another reason why stalling. |
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 13, 2024 10:25:33 GMT
The problem is that they hold the whip hand and all the money. Despite the best of intentions, the fan's boycott of the EFL trophy just confirmed that the majority of lower tier clubs are still keen to receive charity from the Premier League.
Nothing the EFL clubs do can overcome this greed, but perhaps the Football Governance Bill might.
With a general election due, the football governance Bill will not get thru. Prem clubs realise this hence another reason why stalling. The horse bolted years ago. There also has to be an element of helping yourselves which, Rovers have done very little of this century. In reality we should be seeing a gradual decline in pay throughout the football league, certainly at Rovers. I'm hoping wee see a sea change in Rovers style of recruitment and how the club increases other revenue streams. While payments from the PL are great and should happen they shouldn't be so heavily relied upon. |
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Post by tommym9 on Mar 13, 2024 10:57:24 GMT
Great article from Wael, the PL have had the EFL over a barrel for way too long.
A case in point is the Elite Player Performance Plan, leading to PL clubs hoarding youth talent, then forcing them into the EFL trophy because they can't get game time at their own clubs.
Time to have a rethink and make it worth while for lower league teams to invest in youth and for those players to have a pathway to the first team. If they develop into a real talent, then the club can sell them and everyone benefits.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 13, 2024 11:05:07 GMT
The same AFC Bournemouth who I remember begging for money with collection buckets when they were having financial difficulties? Yes, in the Winter Gardens, was there with my nippers. For them, of all PL clubs to object, is shameful. UTG! edit: And it seems many Cherries fan share that embarrassment. The podcast Up The Cherries on YouTube has talked about the fans being embarrassed that AFCB of all clubs oppose it. They do remember their history! |
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Post by pucklegas on Mar 13, 2024 11:17:44 GMT
Wael well done you have spoken very well on our behalf, shame on the big dogs, one football family, oh wait a minute!
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Post by rememberhalifax on Mar 13, 2024 11:32:59 GMT
No surprise who is heading that list but as others have said, shocked to see Bournemouth on the list.
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Post by darkbluegas on Mar 13, 2024 11:41:58 GMT
"Important words from @waelalqadi @official_BRFC on why it’s in @premierleague interests to help @efl clubs with a proper ‘New Deal’…”We at Bristol Rovers gave Jarell Quansah and Elliot Anderson men’s football and both now are established top-flight players, with their respective clubs (#LFC and #NUFC). Surely their combined market value one day will be much more than the extra amount the Premier League are haggling over? “This season we took Harvey Vale on loan from #CFC and he has played the most amount of minutes than any Chelsea loanee so far this season, playing over 2,400 minutes for Bristol Rovers. We are developing Harvey and building up his physicality to a level where his body can withstand playing Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday fixtures at a consistent level and in a very competitive league, something which Under-21 football will never come close to providing. “Each club in the EFL has many loanees playing, learning and developing before returning as assets to their parent clubs. Maybe…we should discuss future development fees for our loan players when they are eventually sold by their parent clubs? I’m sure Mr. Boehly at Chelsea will have plans to sell Harvey for £40m+ after we have developed his game for them! The Premier League need the EFL, and the quicker they realise (and pay for) the added value we provide to them the better. They need to act decisively and quickly before it becomes too late for some clubs.” An actual reasonable statement from Wally! Who is Wally ? |
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Post by eric on Mar 13, 2024 11:44:45 GMT
A loan strike would be an interesting proposal. It's kind of Catch 22 though because, let's be honest, Rovers have benefitted massively from the loan market. The problem is that they hold the whip hand and all the money. Despite the best of intentions, the fan's boycott of the EFL trophy just confirmed that the majority of lower tier clubs are still keen to receive charity from the Premier League.
Nothing the EFL clubs do can overcome this greed, but perhaps the Football Governance Bill might.
Could the EFL bring in a rule across all three divisions that outlaws loans from Prem Clubs? I know we rely on loans, as do a lot of clubs at our level, but a blanket ban would create a level playing field and leave clubs like Chelsea with less options on where to send their kids. |
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Post by curlywurly on Mar 13, 2024 12:11:03 GMT
The problem is that they hold the whip hand and all the money. Despite the best of intentions, the fan's boycott of the EFL trophy just confirmed that the majority of lower tier clubs are still keen to receive charity from the Premier League.
Nothing the EFL clubs do can overcome this greed, but perhaps the Football Governance Bill might.
Could the EFL bring in a rule across all three divisions that outlaws loans from Prem Clubs? I know we rely on loans, as do a lot of clubs at our level, but a blanket ban would create a level playing field and leave clubs like Chelsea with less options on where to send their kids. They could, but it would be financial self harm as the loan system does benefit both clubs in the transaction and would only harden the attitude of the Premier League clubs on trickle down funding. |
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 13, 2024 12:41:21 GMT
"Important words from @waelalqadi @official_BRFC on why it’s in @premierleague interests to help @efl clubs with a proper ‘New Deal’…”We at Bristol Rovers gave Jarell Quansah and Elliot Anderson men’s football and both now are established top-flight players, with their respective clubs (#LFC and #NUFC). Surely their combined market value one day will be much more than the extra amount the Premier League are haggling over? “This season we took Harvey Vale on loan from #CFC and he has played the most amount of minutes than any Chelsea loanee so far this season, playing over 2,400 minutes for Bristol Rovers. We are developing Harvey and building up his physicality to a level where his body can withstand playing Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday fixtures at a consistent level and in a very competitive league, something which Under-21 football will never come close to providing. “Each club in the EFL has many loanees playing, learning and developing before returning as assets to their parent clubs. Maybe…we should discuss future development fees for our loan players when they are eventually sold by their parent clubs? I’m sure Mr. Boehly at Chelsea will have plans to sell Harvey for £40m+ after we have developed his game for them! The Premier League need the EFL, and the quicker they realise (and pay for) the added value we provide to them the better. They need to act decisively and quickly before it becomes too late for some clubs.”
An actual reasonable statement from Wally! Who is Wally ?  Ark at Poirot here. |
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Post by eric on Mar 13, 2024 12:47:23 GMT
Could the EFL bring in a rule across all three divisions that outlaws loans from Prem Clubs? I know we rely on loans, as do a lot of clubs at our level, but a blanket ban would create a level playing field and leave clubs like Chelsea with less options on where to send their kids. They could, but it would be financial self harm as the loan system does benefit both clubs in the transaction and would only harden the attitude of the Premier League clubs on trickle down funding. Would it be financial self harm? Wouldn’t EFL clubs just play their own youngsters a bit more (players they will already be paying the wages for anyway). The downside would be in terms of quality of performance more than financial? |
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Post by darkbluegas on Mar 13, 2024 12:56:54 GMT
Ark at Poirot here. you're going to have to enlighten me |
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