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Post by gasify on Apr 4, 2024 18:57:14 GMT
There is nothing to stop Celtic and Rangers from playing in the English leagues. They would rightfully have to start at the bottom of the pyramid and work up, they just don't want to do that. There has been talk of bringing them into the premiership in the past and relegating two extra clubs out of the football leaguel. I am more against that than the Football League Trophy. At least the Welsh clubs have either worked to get back in the league or were voted in when everyone else was and have competed each year for their place. As far as I was aware they have never been offered a place in the English pyramid? I just don't see why Welsh teams arnt made to play in their own leagues which would in turn have a positive impact for Welsh football In general like it does for Scottish football having Celtic and rangers. Especially since they despise the English so much. They wouldn't have to come over here as much then to watch their teams play. It's an open ended opportunity, they can do it any time they want to. Have a look at: footballinberkshire.co.uk/features/in-depth/32961/english-football-pyramid-system-works/I'm guessing that your definition of bottom of the pyramid is different to my definition. I really do mean at the bottom of the pyramid. AFC Manchester are giving it a go: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._United_of_Manchester |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 4, 2024 19:14:49 GMT
Interesting read - big brother is alive and well in the Premier League! If you abuse someone in real life, there is accountability. Why shouldn't there be accountability for saying it on twitter? She didn't abuse anybody, she expressed her opinion on Twitter. I think that it was out of order for Newcastle to ask the Premier League surveillance unit to trawl the internet for further information about her, and compile a report. Newcastle then passed the report to the Police, who questioned her for two hours, before deciding that she hadn't breached any law. What a waste of valuable police resources, and rather ironic, given the politics of Newcastle's owners! I don't agree with men who identify as women being given access to changing rooms which are designated for females, and I don't think that they should be allowed to participate in competative women's sports - maybe somebody from Rovers will read this, and decide to ban me from the ground? |
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Post by clockendgas on Apr 4, 2024 19:19:35 GMT
If you abuse someone in real life, there is accountability. Why shouldn't there be accountability for saying it on twitter? She didn't abuse anybody, she expressed her opinion on Twitter. I think that it was out of order for Newcastle to ask the Premier League surveillance unit to trawl the internet for further information about her, and compile a report. Newcastle then passed the report to the Police, who questioned her for two hours, before deciding that she hadn't breached any law. What a waste of valuable police resources! I don't agree with men who identify as women being given access to changing rooms which are designated for females, and I don't think that they should be allowed to participate in competative women's sports - maybe somebody from Rovers will read this, and decide to ban me from the ground? A ban would be a blessing this season tilly |
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Post by gasify on Apr 4, 2024 19:19:44 GMT
If you abuse someone in real life, there is accountability. Why shouldn't there be accountability for saying it on twitter? She didn't abuse anybody, she expressed her opinion on Twitter. I think that it was out of order for Newcastle to ask the Premier League surveillance unit to trawl the internet for further information about her, and compile a report. Newcastle then passed the report to the Police, who questioned her for two hours, before deciding that she hadn't breached any law. What a waste of valuable police resources! I don't agree with men who identify as women being given access to changing rooms which are designated for females, and I don't think that they should be allowed to participate in competative women's sports - maybe somebody from Rovers will read this, and decide to ban me from the ground? You haven't accused a doctor of grooming. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 4, 2024 19:23:57 GMT
She didn't abuse anybody, she expressed her opinion on Twitter. I think that it was out of order for Newcastle to ask the Premier League surveillance unit to trawl the internet for further information about her, and compile a report. Newcastle then passed the report to the Police, who questioned her for two hours, before deciding that she hadn't breached any law. What a waste of valuable police resources! I don't agree with men who identify as women being given access to changing rooms which are designated for females, and I don't think that they should be allowed to participate in competative women's sports - maybe somebody from Rovers will read this, and decide to ban me from the ground? You haven't accused a doctor of grooming. Ah, she abused a deceased Nazi Doctor who carried out medical experiments at Auschwitzz! How dare she! |
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Post by orgasmic on Apr 4, 2024 19:26:00 GMT
It wasn’t abuse though. Simply stated facts and expressed her political opinion online, not aimed at anyone. History shows us that policing people’s thoughts doesn’t end well. Didn't she acuse a Dr of grooming? That sounds quite abusive? No she didn’t. The article states that she described trans lobby groups with links to schools as ‘groomers’. |
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Post by gasify on Apr 4, 2024 19:50:30 GMT
Didn't she acuse a Dr of grooming? That sounds quite abusive? No she didn’t. The article states that she described trans lobby groups with links to schools as ‘groomers’. Just re read the article, your right. She described trans lobby groups as groomers and people who advocate for affirmative medical procedures to a Nazi doctor at Auschwitz. As a straight white male, the bit I find interesting is that if you replace the word transgender with the word gay, you get back to the same views of the 80's. |
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Post by orgasmic on Apr 4, 2024 19:54:44 GMT
No she didn’t. The article states that she described trans lobby groups with links to schools as ‘groomers’. Just re read the article, your right. She described trans lobby groups as groomers and people who advocate for affirmative medical procedures to a Nazi doctor at Auschwitz. As a straight white male, the bit I find interesting is that if you replace the word transgender with the word gay, you get back to the same views of the 80's. We did this on another thread that got moved to General Chat. I repeatedly provided irrefutable proof that the trans movement has its origins deeply rooted in paedophilia. I would agree with her that those targeting children with these ideologies are dangerous and tantamount to groomers. |
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Post by gasbluesman on Apr 4, 2024 20:01:06 GMT
I don’t want to make it a post about the subject matter as it’s more about her ban.
however! That argument has been used over and over again and there is no correlation. Just ask the many gay men and lesbians who are seeing their movement being appropriated by this ideology. Many find the comparison pretty insulting.
But seriously, I left the Labour Party partly over this issue. I’ve served my time arguing on Facebook groups so happy not to go into it 😂
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 4, 2024 20:11:44 GMT
Getting back to the OP, I don't think the ban is fair. The club could have contacted her and had a discussion, although I'm not sure what base they would be coming from, as the Police had decided that she hadn't broken any law.
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Post by gasify on Apr 4, 2024 20:15:52 GMT
Just re read the article, your right. She described trans lobby groups as groomers and people who advocate for affirmative medical procedures to a Nazi doctor at Auschwitz. As a straight white male, the bit I find interesting is that if you replace the word transgender with the word gay, you get back to the same views of the 80's. . I would agree with her that those targeting children with these ideologies are dangerous and tantamount to groomers. We did do this before. However I stopped responding as the stuff that was being posted wasn't "irrefutable evidence that the trans movement has its origins in paedophilia" apart from a paedophile being interviewed. Back in the 80's the thought was that a gay man going to a public toilet would rape young boys. Back in the 80's men would refuse to get undressed in front of gay men. However nowadays, it's not really an issue. We have moved on from the shock headlines of the red top fearmongers and have realised that there needs to be a sense of attraction between men in the same way as there needs to be attraction between a man and a woman. Female football players are more open about their sexuality. Do you think that any gay footballer sees their team mates in a sexual manner or as team mates? |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Apr 4, 2024 20:22:14 GMT
If you abuse someone in real life, there is accountability. Why shouldn't there be accountability for saying it on twitter? She didn't abuse anybody, she expressed her opinion on Twitter. I think that it was out of order for Newcastle to ask the Premier League surveillance unit to trawl the internet for further information about her, and compile a report. Newcastle then passed the report to the Police, who questioned her for two hours, before deciding that she hadn't breached any law. What a waste of valuable police resources, and rather ironic, given the politics of Newcastle's owners! I don't agree with men who identify as women being given access to changing rooms which are designated for females, and I don't think that they should be allowed to participate in competative women's sports - maybe somebody from Rovers will read this, and decide to ban me from the ground? Spot on Tills ! This whole gender debacle is insane!!! |
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Post by orgasmic on Apr 4, 2024 20:30:26 GMT
We did this on another thread that got moved to General Chat. I repeatedly provided irrefutable proof that the trans movement has its origins deeply rooted in paedophilia. I would agree with her that those targeting children with these ideologies are dangerous and tantamount to groomers. We did do this before. However I stopped responding as the stuff that was being posted wasn't "irrefutable evidence that the trans movement has its origins in paedophilia" apart from a paedophile being interviewed. Back in the 80's the thought was that a gay man going to a public toilet would rape young boys. Back in the 80's men would refuse to get undressed in front of gay men. However nowadays, it's not really an issue. We have moved on from the shock headlines of the red top fearmongers and have realised that there needs to be a sense of attraction between men in the same way as there needs to be attraction between a man and a woman. Female football players are more open about their sexuality. Do you think that any gay footballer sees their team mates in a sexual manner or as team mates? You seem to be missing the fact that the paedophile being interviewed worked for and alongside the man credited with coining the term, ‘gender is a social construct’. They devised ‘scientific’ tests to molest infants and also knowingly used inaccurate and misleading data to continue getting funded to sexually abuse children as young as 2. This falsified data and barbaric paedophilic acts form the basis of the’science’ that underpins the trans movement. You might not like that, but those are the facts. |
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Post by gasify on Apr 4, 2024 20:35:02 GMT
We did do this before. However I stopped responding as the stuff that was being posted wasn't "irrefutable evidence that the trans movement has its origins in paedophilia" apart from a paedophile being interviewed. Back in the 80's the thought was that a gay man going to a public toilet would rape young boys. Back in the 80's men would refuse to get undressed in front of gay men. However nowadays, it's not really an issue. We have moved on from the shock headlines of the red top fearmongers and have realised that there needs to be a sense of attraction between men in the same way as there needs to be attraction between a man and a woman. Female football players are more open about their sexuality. Do you think that any gay footballer sees their team mates in a sexual manner or as team mates? You seem to be missing the fact that the paedophile being interviewed worked for and alongside the man credited with coining the term, ‘gender is a social construct’. They devised ‘scientific’ tests to molest infants and also knowingly used inaccurate and misleading data to continue getting funded to sexually abuse children as young as 2. This falsified data and barbaric paedophilic acts form the basis of the’science’ that underpins the trans movement. You might not like that, but those are the facts. That was where the discussion ended for me as there was no evidence that any tests devised to molest infants. |
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Post by aghast on Apr 4, 2024 21:11:13 GMT
Complicated issue this one. A lot of people who consider themselves liberal, as do I, might rush to defend the rights of people to be who they want. But I know a few women, two of whom are committed feminists, who are deeply uncomfortable with the male to female trans thing and the idea that they should be considered whatever sex they see themselves as, with the right to act, and be, and integrate with women as a woman.
Ricky Gervais gets the idea.
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Post by orgasmic on Apr 4, 2024 22:12:35 GMT
You seem to be missing the fact that the paedophile being interviewed worked for and alongside the man credited with coining the term, ‘gender is a social construct’. They devised ‘scientific’ tests to molest infants and also knowingly used inaccurate and misleading data to continue getting funded to sexually abuse children as young as 2. This falsified data and barbaric paedophilic acts form the basis of the’science’ that underpins the trans movement. You might not like that, but those are the facts. That was where the discussion ended for me as there was no evidence that any tests devised to molest infants. |
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Post by orgasmic on Apr 4, 2024 22:15:27 GMT
You seem to be missing the fact that the paedophile being interviewed worked for and alongside the man credited with coining the term, ‘gender is a social construct’. They devised ‘scientific’ tests to molest infants and also knowingly used inaccurate and misleading data to continue getting funded to sexually abuse children as young as 2. This falsified data and barbaric paedophilic acts form the basis of the’science’ that underpins the trans movement. You might not like that, but those are the facts. That was where the discussion ended for me as there was no evidence that any tests devised to molest infants. I mean in my first reply to you on that thread I told you what to look up if you didn’t believe me. I’ve (if it worked) inserted a picture which is from the guys own published book. They molested children to see how quickly they could make them climax. Then published the results. It truly sickens me. |
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Post by gasbluesman on Apr 4, 2024 22:31:47 GMT
Gasify, the woman in the article is a lesbian and there’s a large amount of them and gay men who can’t stand this movement appropriating their cause as it’s directly opposed to their rights as gays and lesbians. The conflation with the gay rights struggle of the 80’s carries no weight.
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Post by gasify on Apr 4, 2024 22:49:06 GMT
That was where the discussion ended for me as there was no evidence that any tests devised to molest infants. I mean in my first reply to you on that thread I told you what to look up if you didn’t believe me. I’ve (if it worked) inserted a picture which is from the guys own published book. They molested children to see how quickly they could make them climax. Then published the results. It truly sickens me. We are going over old ground that I still don't think you are able to substantiate. All I need is a couple of links to credible sources that says he was a paedophile. Two is fine. |
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Post by orgasmic on Apr 5, 2024 5:33:53 GMT
I mean in my first reply to you on that thread I told you what to look up if you didn’t believe me. I’ve (if it worked) inserted a picture which is from the guys own published book. They molested children to see how quickly they could make them climax. Then published the results. It truly sickens me. We are going over old ground that I still don't think you are able to substantiate. All I need is a couple of links to credible sources that says he was a paedophile. Two is fine. I mean I literally posted an excerpt from his own book showing the results of a test in which they molested infants. |
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