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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2024 8:47:19 GMT
I don’t think we will see any movement with incomings but if we do you’d like to think it’d be CF in a different mould to Omochere / Martin. The following forwards have not been involved with their respective clubs games and would be top loan signings at L1: Niall Ennis - Stoke City Joe Taylor - Luton Town Fabio Tavares - Coventry City Ben Waine - Plymouth Argyle If we don't bring in a natural goal scorer we will be scrapping to stay out of the bottom four all season... This is a defining few days for the Club!! |
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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on Aug 28, 2024 9:52:05 GMT
I disagree about needing a top goal scorer.
Promise should get 15 goals, and Martin is capable of doing better than that.
For me, we lack pace down the wings. Sincs and Thomas' end product is usually poor.
We lack creativity, we don't move forward together. You look at good teams, they move forward together making runs off eachother. We play it up to Promise and he has no one around him. It's not rocket science. I think Taylor knows this, just have to hope he can get that message over on the pitch.
For me, a pacey winger/forward and a goalkeeper are needed. God forbid what will happen if Griffiths gets crocked.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 28, 2024 10:15:03 GMT
I disagree about needing a top goal scorer. Promise should get 15 goals, and Martin is capable of doing better than that. For me, we lack pace down the wings. Sincs and Thomas' end product is usually poor. We lack creativity, we don't move forward together. You look at good teams, they move forward together making runs off eachother. We play it up to Promise and he has no one around him. It's not rocket science. I think Taylor knows this, just have to hope he can get that message over on the pitch. For me, a pacey winger/forward and a goalkeeper are needed. God forbid what will happen if Griffiths gets crocked. Last season was the first in 8+ years that Martin has managed 15+ goals. Over the past 7 seasons he's made 257 appearances and scored 53 goals, averaging 7.57 goals per season. He's nearly 36 and looks unfit having missed most of pre season. Personally, I doubt he'll get 15 this season. Even 10 would be an improvement on his average over the past 7 years. Omochere managed 6 last season and 7 the season before for Fleetwood, an average of 6.5. Hopefully he can develop and improve, but to expect 15 goals is optimistic in my opinion. We've lost Aaron Collins who scored 48 goals over the past 3 seasons, an average of 16, and Anthony Evans who has also scored 26 in the last 3 seasons, an average of 8.67. Collins and Evans were also 2 of our most creative players. Have we replaced their goals and creativity? I'm not convinced. Personally, I think we could do with another creative player and striker, unless we can sign someone who can do both. |
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Post by percy on Aug 28, 2024 10:27:30 GMT
I disagree about needing a top goal scorer. Promise should get 15 goals, and Martin is capable of doing better than that. For me, we lack pace down the wings. Sincs and Thomas' end product is usually poor. We lack creativity, we don't move forward together. You look at good teams, they move forward together making runs off eachother. We play it up to Promise and he has no one around him. It's not rocket science. I think Taylor knows this, just have to hope he can get that message over on the pitch. For me, a pacey winger/forward and a goalkeeper are needed. God forbid what will happen if Griffiths gets crocked. we will use the emergency loan system. |
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Post by westfieldgas on Aug 28, 2024 10:57:17 GMT
Exeter City are open to offers for centre-back Cheick Diabaté before the close of the transfer window. - Peter O’Rouke
Played exceptionally well for them past couple seasons.
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Post by westfieldgas on Aug 28, 2024 11:04:28 GMT
Football Insider
🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Multiple League One and League Two clubs are weighing up moves for winger Marcus Browne on a free transfer.
Yes Please, Gas.
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Post by madridgas on Aug 28, 2024 11:10:58 GMT
I disagree about needing a top goal scorer. Promise should get 15 goals, and Martin is capable of doing better than that. For me, we lack pace down the wings. Sincs and Thomas' end product is usually poor. We lack creativity, we don't move forward together. You look at good teams, they move forward together making runs off eachother. We play it up to Promise and he has no one around him. It's not rocket science. I think Taylor knows this, just have to hope he can get that message over on the pitch. For me, a pacey winger/forward and a goalkeeper are needed. God forbid what will happen if Griffiths gets crocked. Last season was the first in 8+ years that Martin has managed 15+ goals. Over the past 7 seasons he's made 257 appearances and scored 53 goals, averaging 7.57 goals per season. He's nearly 36 and looks unfit having missed most of pre season. Personally, I doubt he'll get 15 this season. Even 10 would be an improvement on his average over the past 7 years. Omochere managed 6 last season and 7 the season before for Fleetwood, an average of 6.5. Hopefully he can develop and improve, but to expect 15 goals is optimistic in my opinion. We've lost Aaron Collins who scored 48 goals over the past 3 seasons, an average of 16, and Anthony Evans who has also scored 26 in the last 3 seasons, an average of 8.67. Collins and Evans were also 2 of our most creative players. Have we replaced their goals and creativity? I'm not convinced. Personally, I think we could do with another creative player and striker, unless we can sign someone who can do both. Whilst I agree with your sentiment why don't we look just at goals scored in League 1, not Championship or League 2 and then per game  Evans scored 11 League in 86 games for Bristol Rovers = 0.13 per game Collins 27 goals in 73 games for Bristol Rovers = 0.37 per game So that is 0.5 goals lost per game Ruel scored 11 goals in 42 games last season = 0.26 Promise scored 11 goals in 62 games = 0.18 so at 0.44 goals per game, we have lost less than 3 goals across the season. Martin is the standout player with 16 goals in 34 games = 0.47 per game. Get him fit and we should be OK. Out, often inured and we are in trouble. |
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Post by westfieldgas on Aug 28, 2024 12:02:39 GMT
Freddie Ladapo?
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Post by pirate on Aug 28, 2024 12:16:59 GMT
Bailey Cadamarteri is set to undergo a medical ahead of his loan move from Sheffield Wednesday to Lincoln City.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 28, 2024 12:23:52 GMT
Bailey Cadamarteri is set to undergo a medical ahead of his loan move from Sheffield Wednesday to Lincoln City. Blimey, starting to feel really old when ex players sons are now playing league football |
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Post by eric on Aug 28, 2024 12:25:54 GMT
I disagree about needing a top goal scorer. Promise should get 15 goals, and Martin is capable of doing better than that. For me, we lack pace down the wings. Sincs and Thomas' end product is usually poor. We lack creativity, we don't move forward together. You look at good teams, they move forward together making runs off eachother. We play it up to Promise and he has no one around him. It's not rocket science. I think Taylor knows this, just have to hope he can get that message over on the pitch. For me, a pacey winger/forward and a goalkeeper are needed. God forbid what will happen if Griffiths gets crocked. Most good teams don’t make their most technically gifted player spend the game in their own half. |
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 28, 2024 12:27:22 GMT
Last season was the first in 8+ years that Martin has managed 15+ goals. Over the past 7 seasons he's made 257 appearances and scored 53 goals, averaging 7.57 goals per season. He's nearly 36 and looks unfit having missed most of pre season. Personally, I doubt he'll get 15 this season. Even 10 would be an improvement on his average over the past 7 years. Omochere managed 6 last season and 7 the season before for Fleetwood, an average of 6.5. Hopefully he can develop and improve, but to expect 15 goals is optimistic in my opinion. We've lost Aaron Collins who scored 48 goals over the past 3 seasons, an average of 16, and Anthony Evans who has also scored 26 in the last 3 seasons, an average of 8.67. Collins and Evans were also 2 of our most creative players. Have we replaced their goals and creativity? I'm not convinced. Personally, I think we could do with another creative player and striker, unless we can sign someone who can do both. Whilst I agree with your sentiment why don't we look just at goals scored in League 1, not Championship or League 2 and then per game Evans scored 11 League in 86 games for Bristol Rovers = 0.13 per game Collins 27 goals in 73 games for Bristol Rovers = 0.37 per game So that is 0.5 goals lost per game Ruel scored 11 goals in 42 games last season = 0.26 Promise scored 11 goals in 62 games = 0.18 so at 0.44 goals per game, we have lost less than 3 goals across the season. Martin is the standout player with 16 goals in 34 games = 0.47 per game. Get him fit and we should be OK. Out, often inured and we are in trouble. We can't really count Martin as he was here last season. He made 38 appearances, Evans 52, and Collins 36. We've lost Collins and Evans goals and creativity, and given his average goal return in the past 8 seasons, his age, and fitness, there has to be serious doubts Martin can get anywhere near last seasons total. How many assists did Collins and Evans average over the past 3 seasons? How many of Martin's goals were set up by those players? Quite a lot. Based on what we've seen so far this season it does look like we'll struggle to create chances and score goals. I'm not writing us off or saying Sotiriou, Omochere or Hutchinson are poor signings, but I do think we need another creativite player and striker to be sure we've got enough goals in the squad to stay out of trouble. |
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Post by willytopp84 on Aug 28, 2024 12:37:12 GMT
Eagerly awaiting new backup goalie and another good centre forward option 👍
I worry Martin maybe reaching his 10-15 games a season injury prone era.
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Post by pirate on Aug 28, 2024 12:43:16 GMT
Barnsley are closing in on a deal for Go Ahead Eagles and Sweden international centre forward Victor Edvardsen.
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Post by pirate on Aug 28, 2024 12:46:58 GMT
Wigan Athletic have signed Northern Ireland international forward Dale Taylor on a season-long loan from Premier League club Nottingham Forest.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 28, 2024 14:02:21 GMT
Getting down to the vinegar strokes now…..
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 28, 2024 14:08:54 GMT
I disagree about needing a top goal scorer. Promise should get 15 goals, and Martin is capable of doing better than that. For me, we lack pace down the wings. Sincs and Thomas' end product is usually poor. We lack creativity, we don't move forward together. You look at good teams, they move forward together making runs off eachother. We play it up to Promise and he has no one around him. It's not rocket science. I think Taylor knows this, just have to hope he can get that message over on the pitch. For me, a pacey winger/forward and a goalkeeper are needed. God forbid what will happen if Griffiths gets crocked. Most good teams don’t make their most technically gifted player spend the game in their own half. Thomas and Bilongo both had a lot of the ball in a lot of space on Saturday. I don't get people harping on about Thomas, as imo he looks more dangerous coming from deep and finish final ball pass looks rushed at times. When Plymouth went up, their wing backs were key when they were attacking and they ended up paying a million for one of them. Thomas has seemed to be attacking more than defending and Taylor Moore looked to playing as a right back at times. It's early days, but I don't think we are set up as defensively as people say. We need the midfielders to get on the ball more, so the wing backs can get into more attacking positions and we need players like Hutchinson to settle in. He had a few chances to put in some crosses on his left, but lacked the conviction. It's early days for a lot of the squad and new times that time you settle. Look at Rotherham! Look at past gas greats. Players have been living in hotels and have not settled in yet. We definitely need another striker. But we can't judge the style, into players are settled in. Clubs have had success playing this way, Taylor has had success playing this way. But it takes time. |
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Post by pirate on Aug 28, 2024 14:14:10 GMT
Wrexham have had a bid of around £750,000 rejected by Preston for striker Will Keane according to the journo Pete O'Rourke.
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Post by phillistine on Aug 28, 2024 15:02:50 GMT
We played without a centre forward in a few preseason games before Pormise signed and i quite liked how we moved the ball around so quickly and the midfield players alwaqys had a runner to find. We played the same in the second half of the Spurs game and the midfield players ran through the space created because we did not have a static centre forward standing in the way. i had hoped that this was going to be our planB with players like Kofe and Ruel as our wild cards and even now kid of hope that we go for a direct player rather than a static centre forward who just seem to slow everyuthing down and do not give our midfield players the forward pass they need .
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Post by westfieldgas on Aug 29, 2024 8:08:35 GMT
Getting the impression it’ll all happen tomorrow if anything at all. The lack of rumours suggests we are sticking with what we’ve got.
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