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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 21, 2024 8:13:41 GMT
I think we’ll have a good season. Might not be quite good enough for a playoff push but I think this lot and our manager will surprise. Quietly confident.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jul 21, 2024 8:22:09 GMT
The OP has given rise ,as usual , to the extremes of fans expectations, from the heights of supreme optimism to the depths of despair! that's football and it's fans for you! As Steve k posted elsewhere i believe if we can sign someone like Devante through the door we will have had a very good window . Some fans bemoan the sale of our 'creators and finishers, i would argue that no one who has left were irreplaceable and our signings could turn out to be even better. Think it unfair to hold last seasons finish against Matt Taylor as i think he inherited a divided dressing room after departure of JB, He probably wanted the season to end as quickly as possible so he could have a clear out and start again. So here we go again with Matt at the helm, it's now his team and he has my full support , I am sure he will feel refreshed and relieved after the clear out is confident of a decent season, for me that would be a top 10 finish ,flirting with play offs, best of luck Matt and Rovers.!
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Post by percy on Jul 21, 2024 8:31:20 GMT
Staying in the division main priority, As others have said , it’s never ended well when we have sold our goals and assists out of the team and then tried to replace them. This is a brand new team who need to gel and learn each others game along with a new back room team. We are clearly trying to build for the future with this squad of players and it’s going to take time ( which isn’t necessarily a bad thing ) what we mustn’t do is get on their backs , there will undoubtedly be periods when things aren’t going our way but they will need our support. I’d be extremely happy to stay in the league and build for next season with a view to then really push on. Absolutely. A tanking away at someone like Rotherham or Stockport early on is a big possibility. Let’s not panic if that happens. Points at home early on are critical. |
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Post by Fetch on Jul 21, 2024 8:43:52 GMT
We’ve finished outside the Top 10 in 9 of the last 10 attempts at this level. Why would finishing there again be incredibly disappointing, particularly given the bigger challenge this season?
For context the last time we made the playoffs at this level was 1998.
If we finish 15th again Taylor would have done a solid job. If we improve or get top half he’d have done an unbelievable job.
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Post by DrFaustus on Jul 21, 2024 8:52:35 GMT
And so it begins …. The madness that fuels the unrest on here which spills on to the terraces and beyond via social media and Bristol Lives dynamic reporter. If MT gets us top half this season with a brand new squad he will have done well - Build the foundations and who knows where the following season might take us. Patience is needed this season. Unrest on the terraces? Must have missed that then. Not sure why another mediocre season is acceptable to some. Mr Taylor was brought to Rovers to get us promoted. Finishing 12th or whatever is not a success. Also, (not aimed at you CG) I'm fully aware of our "natural position" and our dismal history since relegation in 1993, so don't need a lecture from the Haribo mob. UTFG 🏴☠️ |
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Post by RD on Jul 21, 2024 9:21:50 GMT
12th-16th. Closer to 12th will be my guess
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Post by badengas on Jul 21, 2024 10:42:23 GMT
And so it begins …. The madness that fuels the unrest on here which spills on to the terraces and beyond via social media and Bristol Lives dynamic reporter. If MT gets us top half this season with a brand new squad he will have done well - Build the foundations and who knows where the following season might take us. Patience is needed this season. And so it begins... . The madness that is not daring to dream at the beginning of each season. We're going up, the Sh!t are going down, mind the ferkin gap. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 21, 2024 10:52:08 GMT
We’ve finished outside the Top 10 in 9 of the last 10 attempts at this level. Why would finishing there again be incredibly disappointing, particularly given the bigger challenge this season? For context the last time we made the playoffs at this level was 1998. If we finish 15th again Taylor would have done a solid job. If we improve or get top half he’d have done an unbelievable job. If we finish 15th again after the owners have backed MT with a £1m(?), for us anyway, spending spree, then solid job or not I doubt he'll he still be our manager next season. When the owners aim must be top 10 or better. I've really no idea if MT is capable of achieving that, at least somebody, GF &/or MT seems to have put together a decent looking squad. Although we've been here before under Buckle and Barton last season. |
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Post by nsblue on Jul 21, 2024 11:11:25 GMT
With an almost completely new squad, it is difficult to gauge our prospects.
I would be happy with a top half finish, with an eye on the squad developing for a proper promotion push in 25/26.
With the backroom staff now being employed independent from the manager, and the circus that follows each and every sacking, this should mean the squad can develop and we stop the having to have 12-15 new players every season and see some longevity in the length of time players stay with us.
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Jul 21, 2024 11:12:55 GMT
Of course this poll is coming out before the window shuts , so hopeful of a striker , because I dont think there is enough goals in us.
IF this wonderful array of signings gel and are quality , then just mabey top 10 , and of course there is always the unexpected. Oxford for example.
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Post by gasify on Jul 21, 2024 11:13:08 GMT
We’ve finished outside the Top 10 in 9 of the last 10 attempts at this level. Why would finishing there again be incredibly disappointing, particularly given the bigger challenge this season? For context the last time we made the playoffs at this level was 1998. If we finish 15th again Taylor would have done a solid job. If we improve or get top half he’d have done an unbelievable job. If we finish 15th again after the owners have backed MT with a £1m(?), for us anyway, spending spree, then solid job or not I doubt he'll he still be our manager next season. When the owners aim must be top 10 or better. I've really no idea if MT is capable of achieving that, at least somebody, GF &/or MT seems to have put together a decent looking squad. Although we've been here before under Buckle and Barton last season. This sounds the same as when Boris Johnson said that they have recruited 20k extra police. Forgot to mention that they got rid of 21k in the first place. We haven't gone on a £1m spending spree, these aren't additional players. We didn't keep Collins and Evans and then went out and invested £1m. We are replacing players that we had. Those players got us to 17th and 15th in the last two season. So anything better than that is and improvement? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 21, 2024 12:02:29 GMT
If we finish 15th again after the owners have backed MT with a £1m(?), for us anyway, spending spree, then solid job or not I doubt he'll he still be our manager next season. When the owners aim must be top 10 or better. I've really no idea if MT is capable of achieving that, at least somebody, GF &/or MT seems to have put together a decent looking squad. Although we've been here before under Buckle and Barton last season. This sounds the same as when Boris Johnson said that they have recruited 20k extra police. Forgot to mention that they got rid of 21k in the first place. We haven't gone on a £1m spending spree, these aren't additional players. We didn't keep Collins and Evans and then went out and invested £1m. We are replacing players that we had. Those players got us to 17th and 15th in the last two season. So anything better than that is and improvement? The owners could have just as easily kept the £1m in the bank, or more likely, paid off some of last season's losses/debts. How many other L1 clubs, other than the top 6 have spent, anywhere near that amount on players over the last two transfer windows? MT also still has big signings McCormick and Connelly and Brown would have normally cost a decent transfer fee but for his assault conviction. Pure guess work but I'd say the list in spending order for transfer fees since January is some thing like: Birmingham Huddersfield Bolton Peterborough Charlton(?) Rovers Blackpool(?) I'm not sure if Rotherham have paid out any big transfer fees this summer? We're even outspending DC's Barnsley and probably Wrexham, so far anyway, on transfer fees alone. MT has been backed like no other manager since probably Holloway. Personally I have doubts he's up to the task. |
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Post by percy on Jul 21, 2024 12:15:23 GMT
This sounds the same as when Boris Johnson said that they have recruited 20k extra police. Forgot to mention that they got rid of 21k in the first place. We haven't gone on a £1m spending spree, these aren't additional players. We didn't keep Collins and Evans and then went out and invested £1m. We are replacing players that we had. Those players got us to 17th and 15th in the last two season. So anything better than that is and improvement? The owners could have just as easily kept the £1m in the bank, or more likely, paid off some of last season's losses/debts. How many other L1 clubs, other than the top 6 have spent, anywhere near that amount on players over the last two transfer windows? MT also still has big signings McCormick and Connelly and Brown would have normally cost a decent transfer fee but for his assault conviction. Pure guess work but I'd say the list in spending order for transfer fees since January is some thing like: Birmingham Huddersfield Bolton Peterborough Charlton(?) Rovers Blackpool(?) I'm not sure if Rotherham have paid out any big transfer fees this summer? We're even outspending DC's Barnsley and probably Wrexham, so far anyway, on transfer fees alone. MT has been backed like no other manager since probably Holloway. Personally I have doubts he's up to the task. No he hasn’t. He’s spent less than received so if we have a better squad having spent < revenue for Collins and Evans and maybe even has a lower wage bill than Barton’s squad, he has done very well. |
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Post by gasify on Jul 21, 2024 12:36:37 GMT
This sounds the same as when Boris Johnson said that they have recruited 20k extra police. Forgot to mention that they got rid of 21k in the first place. We haven't gone on a £1m spending spree, these aren't additional players. We didn't keep Collins and Evans and then went out and invested £1m. We are replacing players that we had. Those players got us to 17th and 15th in the last two season. So anything better than that is and improvement? The owners could have just as easily kept the £1m in the bank, or more likely, paid off some of last season's losses/debts. How many other L1 clubs, other than the top 6 have spent, anywhere near that amount on players over the last two transfer windows? MT also still has big signings McCormick and Connelly and Brown would have normally cost a decent transfer fee but for his assault conviction. Pure guess work but I'd say the list in spending order for transfer fees since January is some thing like: Birmingham Huddersfield Bolton Peterborough Charlton(?) Rovers Blackpool(?) I'm not sure if Rotherham have paid out any big transfer fees this summer? We're even outspending DC's Barnsley and probably Wrexham, so far anyway, on transfer fees alone. MT has been backed like no other manager since probably Holloway. Personally I have doubts he's up to the task. I don't agree with this, he has replaced players that have already left. You can't chuck: McCormick Connelly Brown Non of these were signed by MT and neither manager last season was able to get anything out of those three. Brown was a free transfer? Well, paid for by the morals rather than cash. When was the last time Rovers sold players for money? Having a quick google: Bodin - 17/18 season - £450k. We brought in: Sercombe - £170k Mensah - Around £80k (not 100%) Tom Nichols - Rumoured to be upwards of £350k Meyenase - Would have been less than £50k DC was backed like no other manager? Ellis - £840k We brought in: Stephan Payne - £200k? JCH - £400k? Problem is, they were for undisclosed fees so we just don't know. 20/21 Sold JCH for £1.4m Brought in: Hanlan Westbrooke Williams This is when it feels like we swapped transfer fees for higher wages. In 22/23 season, we signed: Connoly Rossitor McCormick I would expect those three to have cost around £500k, if not more. With no outgoing player to subsidise. The following summer, we brought in Connor Taylor for around £350k and with loft being the only outgoing player (£100k?). Then we sold Collins and then Evans. That money has been invested in: Conteh - £300k? Hutchinson -£300? Omochere - £500k? With lets say £750k for AC and £450k for AE, then the owners have backed MT with -£100k? So, I don't think it is fair to say that MT has been backed like no other Rovers Manager. In the last few years, no other Rovers manager have found themselves in a position where they have had to replace two key attacking players like AC and AE. If anything, MT has been backed less than the previous two incumbents. |
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Post by justin blue on Jul 21, 2024 12:38:03 GMT
This could be the hardest league one for many years the promoted teams seam to have traction and I expect at least two of them to finish in the top half or playoffs. The relegated sides will probably be in the promotion mix along with the also rans from last year. The signings so far don’t really make up tor what we have lost in terms of creativity and goal threat. Which leaves us fighting it out with the likes of Shrewsbury, Wycombe etc for the top of the bottom half at best.
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Post by gasify on Jul 21, 2024 13:02:50 GMT
This could be the hardest league one for many years the promoted teams seam to have traction and I expect at least two of them to finish in the top half or playoffs. The relegated sides will probably be in the promotion mix along with the also rans from last year. The signings so far don’t really make up tor what we have lost in terms of creativity and goal threat. Which leaves us fighting it out with the likes of Shrewsbury, Wycombe etc for the top of the bottom half at best. I think its too early to come to that conclusion, lets wait until Christmas. We might be pleasantly surprised. |
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Post by richhertford on Jul 21, 2024 13:49:49 GMT
We’ve finished outside the Top 10 in 9 of the last 10 attempts at this level. Why would finishing there again be incredibly disappointing, particularly given the bigger challenge this season? For context the last time we made the playoffs at this level was 1998. If we finish 15th again Taylor would have done a solid job. If we improve or get top half he’d have done an unbelievable job. I understand. I just aim higher. I feel with the investment, the Directors would also be disappointed if we finished the season outside the top ten or worse in the bottom half. I doubt the players we have signed would be happy to finish there. I feel we have signed some super confident winners focused on achieving stuff with their careers. I’m pretty hopeful. As always. It’s the way I am. |
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Post by gasify on Jul 21, 2024 15:23:19 GMT
We’ve finished outside the Top 10 in 9 of the last 10 attempts at this level. Why would finishing there again be incredibly disappointing, particularly given the bigger challenge this season? For context the last time we made the playoffs at this level was 1998. If we finish 15th again Taylor would have done a solid job. If we improve or get top half he’d have done an unbelievable job. I understand. I just aim higher. I feel with the investment, the Directors would also be disappointed if we finished the season outside the top ten or worse in the bottom half. I doubt the players we have signed would be happy to finish there. I feel we have signed some super confident winners focused on achieving stuff with their careers. I’m pretty hopeful. As always. It’s the way I am. What investment? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 21, 2024 16:13:14 GMT
I understand. I just aim higher. I feel with the investment, the Directors would also be disappointed if we finished the season outside the top ten or worse in the bottom half. I doubt the players we have signed would be happy to finish there. I feel we have signed some super confident winners focused on achieving stuff with their careers. I’m pretty hopeful. As always. It’s the way I am. What investment? Investing in the squad rather than just banking the transfer fee money? |
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 21, 2024 16:25:22 GMT
Looks like we’ve got some pace in the full back positions at long last. Last one with any pace was probably Michael Smith so 2014? Those are really important positions and could help us get a top half finish.Dont think we will be near promotion challengers but top half would be very decent return. edit : had to vote for inside top 10 as no top half finish option. Dan Leadbitter? Marc Bola? (Probably not quick) Certainly not since Dan L. 👍 And I agree top half. UTG! |
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