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Post by blakeneygas on Aug 5, 2024 13:16:38 GMT
I haven't got a clue, did he? Yes, said he was looking to sign a striker and it could be late in the window as they are the players in demand and could well be a loan deal. I've no idea why Dan Hargreaves is suggesting we also need a goalie as I assume Hall is going to do exactly the same job this season as he did last season, which is basically get paid to sit and watch Rovers play from the bench! I think a keeper is important the fact Hall wasn't even trusted in the EFL trophy says alot. Would prefer an experienced keeper there pushing Griffiths.
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Post by Quarters on Aug 5, 2024 14:41:27 GMT
Yes, said he was looking to sign a striker and it could be late in the window as they are the players in demand and could well be a loan deal. I've no idea why Dan Hargreaves is suggesting we also need a goalie as I assume Hall is going to do exactly the same job this season as he did last season, which is basically get paid to sit and watch Rovers play from the bench! I think a keeper is important the fact Hall wasn't even trusted in the EFL trophy says alot. Would prefer an experienced keeper there pushing Griffiths. Suggest you investigate more about why clubs don't have an experienced reserve keeper. Has also been discussed on here often as outlined by Topper.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 5, 2024 15:03:20 GMT
Agree with o p.
Evans, Collins and Marquis have all departed (with monies coming in), contribution to our goal tally last season, and we definitely need a bonafide goalscoring replacement - established in this division.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 5, 2024 15:42:21 GMT
Agree with o p. Evans, Collins and Marquis have all departed (with monies coming in), contribution to our goal tally last season, and we definitely need a bonafide goalscoring replacement - established in this division. How many goals did those 3 score last season? They've been replaced by Hutchinson, Garrett, Omochere and Sotiriou, clearly nobody knows how many they'll score/create but don't seem bad replacements on paper.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Aug 5, 2024 16:06:27 GMT
Agree with o p. Evans, Collins and Marquis have all departed (with monies coming in), contribution to our goal tally last season, and we definitely need a bonafide goalscoring replacement - established in this division. Sotiriou got 11 goals and 5 assists in this division last season in 42 games. Omochere’s 6 goals and 1 assist in 34 appearances were also at this level. Marquis got 4 goals and 1 assist in 35 appearances and Collins got 3 goals and 8 assists in 27 appearances. Sotiriou actually had the same amount of goal contributions at the same level as Marquis and Collins combined, without even taking into account Omochere. Hutchinson is the like for like replacement for Evans, but it is noted that his 23 goal contributions last season came in league 2, whereas Evans’ 12 goal contributions were at this level. I agree with you, that I’d prefer another option, either a creative attacking midfielder to potentially replace Brown, or another striker, but statistically speaking the replacements don’t look too bad when comparing last season’s form. It would be nice though to take a step forward from last season’s form, of course…….
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 5, 2024 16:58:09 GMT
MT has already suggested that he intends signing another striker, the difference is some fans think he needs to be signed before Saturdays whereas MT seems content to wait.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 5, 2024 18:10:50 GMT
Agree with o p. Evans, Collins and Marquis have all departed (with monies coming in), contribution to our goal tally last season, and we definitely need a bonafide goalscoring replacement - established in this division. How many goals did those 3 score last season? More for us than all the others put together ! Paper and Grass and Division and Formation Play..... it's speculation and a gamble. I still agree with o p ...
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Post by oliverhelmet on Aug 5, 2024 18:32:40 GMT
Hopefully the situation of having 2 out of 3 strikers unavailable for the opening league game will be enough to convince the manager/owner that we definitely need a 4th to at least cover this happening again,which is pretty likely over the course of a season.Get on it please George.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 5, 2024 18:57:29 GMT
MT has already suggested that he intends signing another striker, the difference is some fans think he needs to be signed before Saturdays whereas MT seems content to wait. Although he does seem content to wait, if we start off on a losing run that can soon become a habit we don't want.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 5, 2024 21:19:38 GMT
Definitely agree about needing another striker, but unsure about this idea I’ve seen a few times on here, Twitter etc. that it needs to be a “proven 20-goal a season” striker at this level.
How many of those are even out there and more importantly, how many are out there that would be A) Affordable for us and B) Attainable to us and not get better offers elsewhere? I’d say very few.
Plus, how many of our best/most prolific strikers over the last 10+ years were ‘proven’ goalscorers when they joined? Collins? Taylor? Hoskins? JCH?
I don’t remember any of them coming in with a pedigree that suggested they’d go on to hit 15-20 goals for us. You can even go back to the likes of Ellington, Roberts, Cureton etc.
In my eyes a part of our identity as a club is in our ability to pick-up relatively raw/unproven strikers and turn them into goalscorers in the Quarters.
Who’s to say Promise and/or Sotiriou won’t be the next cabs off the rank? Plus, let’s not forget we already have Martin in our squad who did hit 15+ last season!
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Post by madgas on Aug 5, 2024 22:17:15 GMT
Definitely agree about needing another striker, but unsure about this idea I’ve seen a few times on here, Twitter etc. that it needs to be a “proven 20-goal a season” striker at this level. How many of those are even out there and more importantly, how many are out there that would be A) Affordable for us and B) Attainable to us and not get better offers elsewhere? I’d say very few. Plus, how many of our best/most prolific strikers over the last 10+ years were ‘proven’ goalscorers when they joined? Collins? Taylor? Hoskins? JCH? I don’t remember any of them coming in with a pedigree that suggested they’d go on to hit 15-20 goals for us. You can even go back to the likes of Ellington, Roberts, Cureton etc. In my eyes a part of our identity as a club is in our ability to pick-up relatively raw/unproven strikers and turn them into goalscorers in the Quarters. Who’s to say Promise and/or Sotiriou won’t be the next cabs off the rank? Plus, let’s not forget we already have Martin in our squad who did hit 15+ last season! Totally agree- we cannot compete for those likely 20+ a season men, there are very few. We need another though. Feels like plan A is Promise up top, so we need a similar profile should he struggle/ or get injured. Martin is quality but it looks like he's gonna be saved a little more. Sortieu is intriguing but sounds as if he's not an out and out CF. So another's needed.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 5, 2024 22:20:22 GMT
In terms of raw numbers I think Rovers have recruited wisely. It’s not an exact science but the options look reasonable;
2023/24 Goals & Minutes per Goal;
- Martin 16 - 171 - Sotiriou 12 - 260 - Hutchinson 13 - 322 - Omochere 6 - 339 - Sinclair 4 - 403
A goal every half hour between those five.
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Post by gasmania on Aug 6, 2024 14:49:33 GMT
Think Nicky Cadden would be a good move for us, always been impressed with him. I would imagine we will only sign 1 more, unless more leave. Tbf, I think a front 3 of Martin, Promise and Sotiriou isn't a bad place to be. We surely can't have too much more money to spend? Will Evans would be great, but think he'd be at least 300-500k. Wouldn't be adverse to Coburn coming back, he has ability. Think we could do alot worse than Coburn. On Cadden odd that he hasn't been picked up by someone yet. Cadden joins Hibernian x.com/HibernianFC/status/1820822159016530110?t=RjQWz5xeT3N71ctwkFjrnw&s=19
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Post by percy on Aug 6, 2024 14:51:18 GMT
Shame, I was hoping we had shirt no 3 held back for him!
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Post by copster on Aug 6, 2024 15:23:21 GMT
Will Lankshear from Spurs should be top of the list - big, fast and 23 goals in PL2 last season!
Not sure how realistic though….
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Post by SleepyGas on Aug 6, 2024 15:27:22 GMT
Plus, how many of our best/most prolific strikers over the last 10+ years were ‘proven’ goalscorers when they joined? Collins? Taylor? Hoskins? JCH? I don’t remember any of them coming in with a pedigree that suggested they’d go on to hit 15-20 goals for us. You can even go back to the likes of Ellington, Roberts, Cureton etc. We signed Rickie Lambert from Rochdale in League Two for £200k after he had notched 22 league goals the previous season.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Aug 6, 2024 15:35:47 GMT
This is the striker scoring for fun in the national leauge . Don't forget we will have Thomas and Promise playing wide supplying crosses. A mate who is a Poll ST holder says the club are in financial difficulties and 150k should do it ?. I think he's scored 10 in pre season. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Dieseruvwe
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Post by SleepyGas on Aug 6, 2024 15:39:14 GMT
He has officially signed for them now
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Post by oldmarket65 on Aug 6, 2024 15:40:21 GMT
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Post by dulwichgas on Aug 6, 2024 15:50:37 GMT
Plus, how many of our best/most prolific strikers over the last 10+ years were ‘proven’ goalscorers when they joined? Collins? Taylor? Hoskins? JCH? I don’t remember any of them coming in with a pedigree that suggested they’d go on to hit 15-20 goals for us. You can even go back to the likes of Ellington, Roberts, Cureton etc. We signed Rickie Lambert from Rochdale in League Two for £200k after he had notched 22 league goals the previous season. And then didn't score 20+ for us until his 3rd season
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