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Post by eric on Sept 28, 2024 18:48:13 GMT
A long shot...but Ian Wright anyone? After drinking loads I’d recommend a pint of water before you go to bed tonight 😁 |
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Post by pudseygas on Sept 28, 2024 19:39:00 GMT
Holloway lol. So funny how his name gets dragged back up by the older fanbase everytime there is call for a new manager. Seriously, Holloway ffs. That ship past 20 years ago
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Post by pudseygas on Sept 28, 2024 19:41:26 GMT
Dean Brennan Steven Schumacher Robbie Keane Schumacher would be worth a discussion perhaps |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 28, 2024 19:48:44 GMT
Dean Brennan Steven Schumacher Robbie Keane Schumacher would be worth a discussion perhaps I'd love to be in the same room when somebody suggests to the owners that they should employ another scouser!! I sense we can safely cross SS & Ryan Lowe off the list. SS's CV is very similar to MT's, did well in his first job and then flopped hopelessly in his second job. We really need somebody who's been at a few clubs not just a one club wonder. |
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Post by pudseygas on Sept 28, 2024 19:50:03 GMT
Schumacher would be worth a discussion perhaps I'd love to be in the same room when somebody suggests to the owners that they should employ another scouser!! I sense we can safely cross SS & Ryan Lowe off the list. SS's CV is very similar to MT's, did well in his first job and then flopped hopelessly in his second job. We really need somebody who's been at a few clubs not just a one club wonder. Played some good footie though (as did MT at Exeter) |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 28, 2024 19:50:47 GMT
You’ve spelt oldie wrong 👍 |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Sept 28, 2024 19:54:32 GMT
Schumacher would be worth a discussion perhaps I'd love to be in the same room when somebody suggests to the owners that they should employ another scouser!! I sense we can safely cross SS & Ryan Lowe off the list. SS's CV is very similar to MT's, did well in his first job and then flopped hopelessly in his second job. We really need somebody who's been at a few clubs not just a one club wonder. Took MT 3 seasons to get promoted to league one then had 11 games with the Grecians in lg 1 , sacked at Rotherham after 10 months , SS got Plymouth up to the champ in
18 months . Some say he was unlucky to get sacked at Stoke so early , and they havn't fared much better since! Slight diff in the twos CV I think
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Post by Sir Trevor on Sept 28, 2024 19:57:03 GMT
Manager * * * ZINEDINE ZIDANE or JURGEN KLOPP
First Team Coach * * * PETER CAROL or STAGECOACH
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Post by fanboy on Sept 28, 2024 19:59:52 GMT
I'd love to be in the same room when somebody suggests to the owners that they should employ another scouser!! I sense we can safely cross SS & Ryan Lowe off the list. SS's CV is very similar to MT's, did well in his first job and then flopped hopelessly in his second job. We really need somebody who's been at a few clubs not just a one club wonder. Took MT 3 seasons to get promoted to league one then had 11 games with the Grecians in lg 1 , sacked at Rotherham after 10 months , SS got Plymouth up to the champ in
18 months . Some say he was unlucky to get sacked at Stoke so early , and they havn't fared much better since! Slight diff in the twos CV I think
Schumacher was left with a side competing for the title by Ryan Lowe. Different CVs indeed but the comparison isn’t really fair.. and this what makes hiring managers so tough! Imo, Matt Taylor’s CV suggested he’d be a great option for us. It isn’t working. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 28, 2024 20:02:30 GMT
I'd love to be in the same room when somebody suggests to the owners that they should employ another scouser!! I sense we can safely cross SS & Ryan Lowe off the list. SS's CV is very similar to MT's, did well in his first job and then flopped hopelessly in his second job. We really need somebody who's been at a few clubs not just a one club wonder. Took MT 3 seasons to get promoted to league one then had 11 games with the Grecians in lg 1 , sacked at Rotherham after 10 months , SS got Plymouth up to the champ in
18 months . Some say he was unlucky to get sacked at Stoke so early , and they havn't fared much better since! Slight diff in the twos CV I think
MT kept Rotherham in the Championship in his first season when they were struggling when he joined them, SS just kept Stoke struggling before being dismissed, outsiders will probably say it's too soon to sack MT but they don't have to pay to watch us under perform. Although who in their right minds would want another scouser as our manager anytime soon. |
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Post by kd1984 on Sept 28, 2024 20:03:29 GMT
There are some decent managers out there right now who jump out and available unlike last time - some I think are out of reach but you have to aim realistically high. Schumacher, Lowe, Rowett and Critchley ( I know it went south for him start of this season but he always had Blackpool in around playoffs and playing decent stuff) all should be considered an upgrade on what we have I think
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Post by yattongas on Sept 28, 2024 20:06:15 GMT
Took MT 3 seasons to get promoted to league one then had 11 games with the Grecians in lg 1 , sacked at Rotherham after 10 months , SS got Plymouth up to the champ in
18 months . Some say he was unlucky to get sacked at Stoke so early , and they havn't fared much better since! Slight diff in the twos CV I think
Schumacher was left with a side competing for the title by Ryan Lowe. Different CVs indeed but the comparison isn’t really fair.. and this what makes hiring managers so tough! Imo, Matt Taylor’s CV suggested he’d be a great option for us. It isn’t working. The Gas…..where managerial careers go to die 😭 |
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Post by bluegas on Sept 28, 2024 20:07:57 GMT
Took MT 3 seasons to get promoted to league one then had 11 games with the Grecians in lg 1 , sacked at Rotherham after 10 months , SS got Plymouth up to the champ in
18 months . Some say he was unlucky to get sacked at Stoke so early , and they havn't fared much better since! Slight diff in the twos CV I think
MT kept Rotherham in the Championship in his first season when they were struggling when he joined them, SS just kept Stoke struggling before being dismissed, outsiders will probably say it's too soon to sack MT but they don't have to pay to watch us under perform. Although who in their right minds would want another scouser as our manager anytime soon. Any others you'd exclude? Geordies? Mancs? Brummies? |
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Post by bluegas on Sept 28, 2024 20:08:54 GMT
Schumacher was left with a side competing for the title by Ryan Lowe. Different CVs indeed but the comparison isn’t really fair.. and this what makes hiring managers so tough! Imo, Matt Taylor’s CV suggested he’d be a great option for us. It isn’t working. The Gas…..where managerial careers go to die 😭 Yes, we've finished quite a few. |
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Post by eric on Sept 28, 2024 20:16:06 GMT
MT kept Rotherham in the Championship in his first season when they were struggling when he joined them, SS just kept Stoke struggling before being dismissed, outsiders will probably say it's too soon to sack MT but they don't have to pay to watch us under perform. Although who in their right minds would want another scouser as our manager anytime soon. Any others you'd exclude? Geordies? Mancs? Brummies? He’s not prejudiced he dislikes everyone equally. He did once rule out ever having any more Scottish strikers based on Cameron, Riordon and Reilly not being successful 😂 |
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Post by igotgas on Sept 28, 2024 20:23:22 GMT
MT keeping Rotherham in the Champ is probably the best and most ideal situation for his “type” of management to prosper.
Getting average players (at the level) to grind out some results being resilient and hard working is entirely different to getting some talented, ambitious albeit inexperienced (at the level) players to go out express themselves and actually win games of football.
No one, literally no one will convince me that any player, if coached / handled correctly, who was literally standing out in league two, can suddenly become a struggler 2 months later one league up.
And that’s not just Hutchinson who probably had the pick of every league two club and half of league 1 after his numbers last season, it’s also the likes of Joel Senior who couldn’t buy a game before his injury.
Add that to players like Sotiriou and Forde who look pale imitations of the players they looked last year and Thomas who is barely recognisable at all.
A manager will be judged by results and performances. He’ll get away with one being off if the other is outstanding. His only other outlet if either of those are off is the performances / improvements made in individuals who he’s getting the best out of. As it stands there isn’t one single player anyone could argue that’s he’s getting a tune out of.
More worrying is the players currently struggling for form were purchased by him and by his own admission he “presented to” which I took to mean that he watched and analysed and sat down at length with, to explain his thoughts, his plans and why he was signing them and what he would do with them to improve them.
I wonder how many of them are questioning what it was he saw / wanted from them?
It’s a mess.
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Post by madgas on Sept 28, 2024 20:39:44 GMT
I'm not quite with many of you but I'd throw the kitchen sink at Paul Cook if we did part company.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 28, 2024 20:55:21 GMT
Any others you'd exclude? Geordies? Mancs? Brummies? He’s not prejudiced he dislikes everyone equally. He did once rule out ever having any more Scottish strikers based on Cameron, Riordon and Reilly not being successful 😂 The club seem to agree given that we've never signed one since Reilly. At least I'm not on here telling everybody I'm not renewing my season ticket like it's some badge of honour to wear. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 28, 2024 20:59:37 GMT
I'm not quite with many of you but I'd throw the kitchen sink at Paul Cook if we did part company. What can we offer him Chesterfield can't? Looking at the present league positions we could well swap leagues with them this summer? |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Sept 28, 2024 21:03:42 GMT
I'm not quite with many of you but I'd throw the kitchen sink at Paul Cook if we did part company. I get what your saying , but do we realy want to put a new manager in hospital before he's even started the job? |
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