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Post by Colyton Gas on Oct 23, 2024 17:18:20 GMT
I was in the best v PNE at Eastville.Alfie Biggs v Tom Finney.
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Post by albaron on Oct 23, 2024 17:18:51 GMT
Yes, there are lots of variables. Value for money, comfort, entertainment, 'being part of something', are probably my main reasons for lack of interest. He didn’t act like a spoilt brat, he accepted his situation and united the club like no one before. Not sure about that. Did you go to Charlton that time when he completely changed a winning team and we got well beaten. Toys out of the pram and all that come to mind. |
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Oct 23, 2024 17:37:45 GMT
Feel good factor is the key here I believe,
Some supporting evidence
York City newly promoted from national league north, new ground, a community stadium and over 6,000 last night, they’re near the top of the national league now.
Also clubs with similar historic crowds to us or lower are passing us by
Stockport
Notts country
Lincoln
Wrexham of course
All getting bigger crowds than us!
We have nothing to look forward to this season, no excitement on the pitch, stuff going at glazial pace off the pitch
The crowds will continue to drop if the club continues to stagnate.
If we had approval for a new 18,000 stadium, and we were top of the table we’d have been pushing 10,000 last night, remember us selling out matches in recent years? Back to back promotions? Last non league crowd 11,000 wasn’t it.
We were all buzzing weren’t we?
We are unfortunately on the crest of a slump, there is a troubling malaise at our club, I’m not sure what we do, but if and when we start to surge back up the crowds will return, people like me and with our fan base we will then need a bigger ground
UTG
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2024 17:45:43 GMT
Feel good factor is the key here I believe, Some supporting evidence York City newly promoted from national league north, new ground, a community stadium and over 6,000 last night, they’re near the top of the national league now. Also clubs with similar historic crowds to us or lower are passing us by Stockport Notts country Lincoln Wrexham of course All getting bigger crowds than us! We have nothing to look forward to this season, no excitement on the pitch, stuff going at glazial pace off the pitch The crowds will continue to drop if the club continues to stagnate. If we had approval for a new 18,000 stadium, and we were top of the table we’d have been pushing 10,000 last night, remember us selling out matches in recent years? Back to back promotions? Last non league crowd 11,000 wasn’t it. We were all buzzing weren’t we? We are unfortunately on the crest of a slump, we are, troubling malaise at our club, I’m not sure what we do, but if and when we start to surge back up the crowds will return, people like me will return with our fan base we will need a bigger ground than we’ve got UTG From a purely business prospective getting relegated and then a promotion push next season would bring the crowds back? I'm not sure what the easy solution is as we seem a million miles away from being serious top 6 contenders in L1 and that is the only way to bring the crowds back whilst we're in L1. Perhaps a more charismatic manager might put more fans on the gate, although fans soon disappeared when DC's side started to struggle. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2024 17:48:12 GMT
Rovers attendances have always been very poor for a city the size of Bristol. Fans have been continually let down for decades, with no move to a new stadium, just residing in a dilapidated former Rugby abode! How the Rovers fans stay loyal for so long beats me! You talk as if you've not a Rovers fan? |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 23, 2024 17:49:02 GMT
Yes, there are lots of variables. Value for money, comfort, entertainment, 'being part of something', are probably my main reasons for lack of interest. At the start of last season many fans bought into JB’s hype that we were going to be genuine promotion contenders. There was a feel good factor going into the start of the season and a lot of fans were genuinely excited by the players we signed. It was all just that …. Hype. We were never genuine promotion hopefuls . Going into this season there’s been none of that hype but we’re probably doing better at this stage than we were last season ( I haven’t checked). Realism not a ticket seller ? What makes a genuine promotion contender? Top 10, within reach of top 6 would qualify for that imo. If a manager of BRFC in the 3rd tier isn't setting the stall at that as a minimum, then something is seriously wrong. You call that hype, I'd call it realistic preseason ambition. If that sells STs and generates excitement then all the better. Of course if it starts falling down, the flak will come. However, we are a fairly well supported club in the 3rd tier with a manager who has been financially backed. Our attendances are down and it would be in everybody's interest if they were higher, regardless of where we finish-as long as we don't go down. The gaffer has to generate interest and make us entertaining to follow, continuing to win will help that I guess.. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2024 17:55:07 GMT
To be fair, a couple of weeks before the Lincoln match you refer to (October 2023), they got 6542 against Barnsley, and when they played Reading on 26th August 2023, they got 7956. 1147 more than they got for the same fixture last night. Sky+ is a factor, but you're right in one way, the biggest factor is probably form. Exeter are in the play offs and had won 4 of their previous 5 in L1 going into last nights game. Rovers were going into the game against struggling Shrewsbury having lost 6 of our last 8 in all competitions. Obviously the away following can also make a difference, and we haven't really played anybody yet that have come close to selling out their allocation. Our average home crowd for the first 6 games last season was 7703, this season 7527. Very little difference. However, last season our crowds started to edge up, and they're currently going the other way, so it will be interesting to see how that develops over the next few games. If for example, we beat Reading and Weston, and our attendance against Lincoln is still similar to last night, then that would be a concern. I would also add the attendances last season started the season well and we had ST’s in the bag as well all season. This season ST’s is down on last season, people will think I keep bleating on but we’ve won the majority at home this season and people are not going, what does it tell you?! Probably Sky's killing mid week games? I'm amazed lower league clubs think it's a good idea selling their soul to Sky. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2024 17:57:45 GMT
At the start of last season many fans bought into JB’s hype that we were going to be genuine promotion contenders. There was a feel good factor going into the start of the season and a lot of fans were genuinely excited by the players we signed. It was all just that …. Hype. We were never genuine promotion hopefuls . Going into this season there’s been none of that hype but we’re probably doing better at this stage than we were last season ( I haven’t checked). Realism not a ticket seller ? What makes a genuine promotion contender? Top 10, within reach of top 6 would qualify for that imo. If a manager of BRFC in the 3rd tier isn't setting the stall at that as a minimum, then something is seriously wrong. You call that hype, I'd call it realistic preseason ambition. If that sells STs and generates excitement then all the better. Of course if it starts falling down, the flak will come. However, we are a fairly well supported club in the 3rd tier with a manager who has been financially backed. Our attendances are down and it would be in everybody's interest if they were higher, regardless of where we finish-as long as we don't go down. The gaffer has to generate interest and make us entertaining to follow, continuing to win will help that I guess.. The last two home games have been more entertaining than anything JB's side produced last season? |
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Post by lympstonegas on Oct 23, 2024 18:08:21 GMT
Forde was excellent last night. Lots of energy and really was behind a lot of the attacks we had. Was hoping he would become the Brucie Bannister playing alongside someone like Martin. I know he’s currently playing a different role and some would say he’s a different type player but players can be coached and I can see him fulfilling that role if given the time to form a partnership |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 23, 2024 18:38:33 GMT
What makes a genuine promotion contender? Top 10, within reach of top 6 would qualify for that imo. If a manager of BRFC in the 3rd tier isn't setting the stall at that as a minimum, then something is seriously wrong. You call that hype, I'd call it realistic preseason ambition. If that sells STs and generates excitement then all the better. Of course if it starts falling down, the flak will come. However, we are a fairly well supported club in the 3rd tier with a manager who has been financially backed. Our attendances are down and it would be in everybody's interest if they were higher, regardless of where we finish-as long as we don't go down. The gaffer has to generate interest and make us entertaining to follow, continuing to win will help that I guess.. The last two home games have been more entertaining than anything JB's side produced last season? That's great to hear. Hopefully that helps to bring supporters into the stadium. |
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Post by roadman on Oct 23, 2024 18:40:01 GMT
He didn’t act like a spoilt brat, he accepted his situation and united the club like no one before. Not sure about that. Did you go to Charlton that time when he completely changed a winning team and we got well beaten. Toys out of the pram and all that come to mind. Yes I was there that day, Liam Lawrence and Easter starting! But by then he wanted to push us on that window just opening and we were a real selling club then. I will sum up this thread, if we had lost last night many would be saying it was time for a change. We also had Taylor Out chants v Wycombe, it would have happened last night as well. Thankfully John Marquis was on the end of their one on one last night and the ref did us a favour last night at the end. Yes we missed some chances against a side who had a -10 GD! Some of us look at it from a business angle and ask why we are 800 fans down on last season, I’m just calling it early as well, I still think it’s inevitable and hope to be proved wrong. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Oct 23, 2024 18:50:04 GMT
Not sure about that. Did you go to Charlton that time when he completely changed a winning team and we got well beaten. Toys out of the pram and all that come to mind. Yes I was there that day, Liam Lawrence and Easter starting! But by then he wanted to push us on that window just opening and we were a real selling club then. I will sum up this thread, if we had lost last night many would be saying it was time for a change. We also had Taylor Out chants v Wycombe, it would have happened last night as well. Thankfully John Marquis was on the end of their one on one last night and the ref did us a favour last night at the end. Yes we missed some chances against a side who had a -10 GD! Some of us look at it from a business angle and ask why we are 800 fans down on last season, I’m just calling it early as well, I still think it’s inevitable and hope to be proved wrong. Funny how people assume. DC made a statement to some players who’d gone out on NYE drinking when they weren’t allowed to that day. Nothing to do with toys out the pram. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2024 18:51:16 GMT
The last two home games have been more entertaining than anything JB's side produced last season? That's great to hear. Hopefully that helps to bring supporters into the stadium. I doubt it, we seem to be going though one of those spells where fans lose interest again. No doubt if we pulled a big side in the cup they'd all come flooding back even if MT was still in charge. |
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Post by pirate on Oct 23, 2024 18:54:31 GMT
What makes a genuine promotion contender? Top 10, within reach of top 6 would qualify for that imo. If a manager of BRFC in the 3rd tier isn't setting the stall at that as a minimum, then something is seriously wrong. You call that hype, I'd call it realistic preseason ambition. If that sells STs and generates excitement then all the better. Of course if it starts falling down, the flak will come. However, we are a fairly well supported club in the 3rd tier with a manager who has been financially backed. Our attendances are down and it would be in everybody's interest if they were higher, regardless of where we finish-as long as we don't go down. The gaffer has to generate interest and make us entertaining to follow, continuing to win will help that I guess.. The last two home games have been more entertaining than anything JB's side produced last season?  |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 23, 2024 18:57:28 GMT
That's great to hear. Hopefully that helps to bring supporters into the stadium. I doubt it, we seem to be going though one of those spells where fans lose interest again. No doubt if we pulled a big side in the cup they'd all come flooding back even if MT was still in charge. Anticipating a cup run eh? 😄 But yes, if we got the teds, or someone decent, then it would attract extra numbers. That's standard though so not unique to us. If this side can keep stringing wins together, fans will slowly return to see wins. It won't be for the excitement factor or free flowing football in our state of the art stadium. |
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Post by devonwhite9 on Oct 23, 2024 19:00:28 GMT
Not sure about that. Did you go to Charlton that time when he completely changed a winning team and we got well beaten. Toys out of the pram and all that come to mind. Yes I was there that day, Liam Lawrence and Easter starting! But by then he wanted to push us on that window just opening and we were a real selling club then. I will sum up this thread, if we had lost last night many would be saying it was time for a change. We also had Taylor Out chants v Wycombe, it would have happened last night as well. Thankfully John Marquis was on the end of their one on one last night and the ref did us a favour last night at the end. Yes we missed some chances against a side who had a -10 GD! Some of us look at it from a business angle and ask why we are 800 fans down on last season, I’m just calling it early as well, I still think it’s inevitable and hope to be proved wrong. We won. We lose enough games to find a thread to sum up with what the reaction is after a defeat. There's no easy game. We're not Man City. We didn't win 6-0 and a refereeing decision went in our favour to offset many decisions which don't. Onto the next. If we win again we may build some momentum and confidence and the football get better. If we lose we can enjoy some really long threads on here |
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Post by 1950gas on Oct 23, 2024 19:28:56 GMT
Forde was excellent last night. Lots of energy and really was behind a lot of the attacks we had. Agree also thought Thomas had a cameo when he came on playing in his natural position on the wing , also though Moore put in a good shift. RS is a lazy brick , looses the ball a lot and never chases back. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 23, 2024 19:45:52 GMT
The last two home games have been more entertaining than anything JB's side produced last season? At least compare home games when you cherry pick two of JB's best fixtures, the ones the majority of us pay to watch? |
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Post by exetergas on Oct 23, 2024 20:11:48 GMT
I really do think the Sky deal has a lot to do with it. Other clubs also struggle when the game is in TV. I can understand it but I do worry that the League clubs have sold their soul to Sky. Trouble is people can get out of the habit of going.
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Post by pirate on Oct 23, 2024 20:52:34 GMT
At least compare home games when you cherry pick two of JB's best fixtures, the ones the majority of us pay to watch?  |
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