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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2015 12:57:32 GMT
And again. I rest my case
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Post by supergas on Aug 23, 2015 23:27:38 GMT
In all fairness, he had two chances on what the Aussies proved was a decent pitch and he failed twice. I stand by my original point, too many people called for his head too quickly...but after previous failures, if you can't perform (twice) in a dead-rubber on a decent pitch, now it's (probably) time for a change...I'd still like you to pick a batsman who can play Test Cricket to replace him though...
...incidentally, neither team in the Ashes had anyone who really played Test Cricket, so who can step up to the plate and score 50+ in any conditions against any top-level attack?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 16:50:20 GMT
ALEX HALES.
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Post by supergas on Aug 25, 2015 23:20:56 GMT
So three Tests against Pakistan in the UAE...on flat pitches, what does he need to average over 3 matches to keep the place for the 4 in South Africa? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 23:50:15 GMT
So three Tests against Pakistan in the UAE...on flat pitches, what does he need to average over 3 matches to keep the place for the 4 in South Africa? Anything higher than the useless Lyth should suffice. |
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Post by supergas on Aug 26, 2015 0:01:35 GMT
So three Tests against Pakistan in the UAE...on flat pitches, what does he need to average over 3 matches to keep the place for the 4 in South Africa? Anything higher than the useless Lyth should suffice. Lol thats not an answer! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 0:32:32 GMT
Anything higher than the useless Lyth should suffice. Lol thats not an answer! If he plays. I think uf he comes out of the series with an average of 30 odd, he should get a chance at the South Africans. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 6:44:54 GMT
Why Alex Hales? Lyth has scored more first class runs, at a higher average than Hales. By what criteria do you think Hales will do better than Lyth, and please, this is the England cricket team......'giving him a go' is not really the criteria is it?
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Post by supergas on Aug 26, 2015 13:32:04 GMT
If he plays. I think uf he comes out of the series with an average of 30 odd, he should get a chance at the South Africans. 150*, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0... Would he still get a crack at the South Africans? (BTW, you don't need to reply, I'm just being clever...) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 15:22:39 GMT
Lyth has scored more first class runs, at a higher average than Hales. Really? What this year? I am truly amazed. Lyth has averaged 20 in seven tests,mainly due to a century against New Zealand. Not sure how many he has scored for Yorkshire. Your stat has dumbfounded me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 18:16:36 GMT
Lyth has scored more first class runs, at a higher average than Hales. Really? What this year? I am truly amazed. Lyth has averaged 20 in seven tests,mainly due to a century against New Zealand. Not sure how many he has scored for Yorkshire. Your stat has dumbfounded me.
It shouldn't dumbfound you. Just look at the official stats. Career wise, Lyth has more first-class runs at a better average than Hales. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 18:18:34 GMT
Really? What this year? I am truly amazed. Lyth has averaged 20 in seven tests,mainly due to a century against New Zealand. Not sure how many he has scored for Yorkshire. Your stat has dumbfounded me.
It shouldn't dumbfound you. Just look at the official stats. Career wise, Lyth has more first-class runs at a better average than Hales. Ah right. And this year? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 18:21:10 GMT
It shouldn't dumbfound you. Just look at the official stats. Career wise, Lyth has more first-class runs at a better average than Hales. Ah right. And this year? You can't use this year alone as a guideline. Lyth has been playing Test cricket against a Test attack. Hales has been milking bowlers in County cricket. That's like comparing apples to pears. If you did that you'd have to replace over half the current English batting line-up ! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 18:24:01 GMT
You can't use this year alone as a guideline. Lyth has been playing Test cricket against a Test attack. Hales has been milking bowlers in County cricket. That's like comparing apples to pears. If you did that you'd have to replace over half the current English batting line-up ! So Lyth got in to the test team how exactly? Yes , by milking county bowlers. Get real. Its all about current form. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 18:37:37 GMT
Alex Hales First Class record
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
First-class 84 145 6 5414 236 38.94 8962 60.41 12 30 787 31 72 0
Adam Lyth First Class record
First-class 112 180 8 7089 251 41.21 16 42 135 0
Lyth - More runs, better average, more 100' and more 50's...............the point is, what makes you think Hales will do better?
As I said, if you use current averages, then most of the English batsmen, who have been playing Test cricket against Test bowlers, would have to be dropped over players who have a better seasons average playing County cricket! Are you always such a tool? I suggest that it's you that needs to 'get real' !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 18:42:30 GMT
You can't use this year alone as a guideline. Lyth has been playing Test cricket against a Test attack. Hales has been milking bowlers in County cricket. That's like comparing apples to pears. If you did that you'd have to replace over half the current English batting line-up ! So Lyth got in to the test team how exactly? Yes , by milking county bowlers. Get real. Its all about current form. Exactly current form, I give you Jonny Bairstow how did he get into the final few tests? 100 after 100 in county cricket. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 19:50:50 GMT
So Lyth got in to the test team how exactly? Yes , by milking county bowlers. Get real. Its all about current form. Exactly current form, I give you Jonny Bairstow how did he get into the final few tests? 100 after 100 in county cricket. Bairstow had his chance before.And should not have been brought back.He wasn't good enough last year and is not good enough this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 19:56:42 GMT
Exactly current form, I give you Jonny Bairstow how did he get into the final few tests? 100 after 100 in county cricket. Bairstow had his chance before.And should not have been brought back.He wasn't good enough last year and is not good enough this year. So going by your logic Bell shouldn't be in the team either? He's had 2 or 3 chances now. So that's 25% of a Ashes winning team who you think shouldn't be there... Lol its a good job you ain't a selector. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 21:02:03 GMT
Bairstow had his chance before.And should not have been brought back.He wasn't good enough last year and is not good enough this year. So going by your logic Bell shouldn't be in the team either? He's had 2 or 3 chances now. So that's 25% of a Ashes winning team who you think shouldn't be there... Lol its a good job you ain't a selector. Who mentioned Bell? This conversation is about Lyth and possible replacements. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 21:11:12 GMT
So going by your logic Bell shouldn't be in the team either? He's had 2 or 3 chances now. So that's 25% of a Ashes winning team who you think shouldn't be there... Lol its a good job you ain't a selector. Who mentioned Bell? This conversation is about Lyth and possible replacements. Lol so you didn't mind me mentioning Bairstow as it fitted in with your agenda, you quite happily fielded questions which you could answer, now you can't answer about Bell, its all who mentioned Bell? You bought them into the thread, yet you don't even realise it... |
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