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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 26, 2015 18:19:12 GMT
It's not the Mods that are the problem.
It's certain users.
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Post by peterpirate on Oct 26, 2015 18:24:30 GMT
Ffs this like a load of women why don't you all meet up and have a day in primark
Utg
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Post by gassince1957 on Oct 26, 2015 18:38:08 GMT
Isn't the problem the personal abuse, even if intended as a joke, rather than the disagreements?
It's fine for one poster to rate a player and another poster to think the same player is a waste of space but where it goes wrong ISTM is when the original poster is criticised rather than their view.
So, for example, poster A says "Nathan Bilssett will come good". Poster B need only say "I don't think he ever will" but too often says "Poster A you must be blind and stupid" or some other insulting phrase. Just state you disagree with the post and leave out the insults - it's easy!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 26, 2015 18:38:00 GMT
Because it's easy to be a keyboard warrior?
TBH I think GGMI should have been banned for a short spell for his latest misdemeanour, in the hope he'd then come to his senses. As he's escaped a ban, but we've lost another 2 posters in the meantime, then we can only hope he's now come to senses.
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Post by Big Jock on Oct 26, 2015 18:43:20 GMT
Yous try in life to bite yer lip an be the bigger person an ignore twatts especially as yous get older But sometimes yous jes wanna stick the nut in some cunnt
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Post by axegas on Oct 26, 2015 18:45:26 GMT
Because it's easy to be a keyboard warrior? TBH I think GGMI should have been banned for a short spell for his latest misdemeanour, in the hope he'd then come to his senses. As he's escaped a ban, but we've lost another 2 posters in the meantime, then we can only hope he's now come to senses. The only keyboard warrior I've seen on here recently was that wycscum fan who thought it would be funny to start a thread slating off rovers, GGMI isn't one in my opinion |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 26, 2015 19:00:20 GMT
It's a fair enough point. Frankly I'm not up to fulfilling the role so I'm stepping down. When the forum came to being, the role of moderator was an easy one. These days it's anything but and I don't have the time to be honest. I'm also the sort of person who avoids confrontation wherever possible, hence taking action when it's maybe deemed required by some it's something I'm simply unable to do. The role is better suited to someone else. Sad that you have been forced to feel like this Roverdrive. I really like you as a poster and a mod and would be sad to see you step down. I hope you reconsider your view on the position. Well done. 3 more posters leaving and a moderator. Would it really have been too much for you to just have said sorry for your offensive post it the first place? You are very fortunate not to have been banned for a few weeks because frankly you've been warned too many times and failed to accept any responsibility. Yes, I'm attacking you, and I don't care any more. You have ruined this forum for too many for too long and I include your trolling of me a few weeks back in that. You need to have a bloody good look at yourself. I will accept my forthcoming ban with good grace and no malice. |
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Post by Somersetgas on Oct 26, 2015 19:05:30 GMT
Sad that you have been forced to feel like this Roverdrive. I really like you as a poster and a mod and would be sad to see you step down. I hope you reconsider your view on the position. Well done. 3 more posters leaving and a moderator. Would it really have been too much for you to just have said sorry for your offensive post it the first place? You are very fortunate not to have been banned for a few weeks because frankly you've been warned too many times and failed to accept any responsibility. Yes, I'm attacking you, and I don't care any more. You have ruined this forum for too many for too long and I include your trolling of me a few weeks back in that. You need to have a bloody good look at yourself. I will accept my forthcoming ban with good grace and no malice. I think you have just said what many have been thinking, but not had the gumption to say. |
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Post by dinsdale on Oct 26, 2015 19:07:13 GMT
It's not the Mods that are the problem. It's certain users. Respectfully disagree, when this forum started you had mods (or mod) abusing the forum users then when that Mod left the mods ignored forum users abusing each other. It was just a free for all. I know its a balance between free speech and respect but I personally think its not worked. Thats why I quit, I come on here to talk Rovers not to be called all the names under the son because I make a few mistakes with some of my posts. On coming back all be it not intentionally full time it did appear a lot better but its clearly still an issue if people are continuing to quit. The rule should be attack the post not the poster and where that doesn't happen people need to step in. |
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Post by RD on Oct 26, 2015 19:13:26 GMT
Tbh I just don't have the time. When I took up the role, we had somewhere between 50 to 100 members; now there are thousands! Following the issues over the weekend, the first I found out about it was late last night, as it was the first time I managed to get on over the weekend. I'm going to become a father shortly and, as a result, I'll have even less time. So thanks for the kind words, but I do believe that the position would be better suited to someone else. I'm not leaving completely though and will still post on here. Sad to hear that RD - Well done on your hard work the last year or so an unenviable job and good luck/best wishes to you and your partner on the new addition! Look forward to meeting you some day mate and of course UTG!!!! Thank you mate! Will definitely try and finally meet you before the season is out, would be great to finally do so. I'll still plan on contributing to the forum, just not as a mod. Thanks again  |
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Post by Big Jock on Oct 26, 2015 19:13:27 GMT
Jes tell me ffs is it now a free fur all (please say aye)  |
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Post by RD on Oct 26, 2015 19:17:02 GMT
Jes tell me ffs is it now a free fur all (please say aye) Aye |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 19:21:10 GMT
Sad that you have been forced to feel like this Roverdrive. I really like you as a poster and a mod and would be sad to see you step down. I hope you reconsider your view on the position. Well done. 3 more posters leaving and a moderator. Would it really have been too much for you to just have said sorry for your offensive post it the first place? You are very fortunate not to have been banned for a few weeks because frankly you've been warned too many times and failed to accept any responsibility. Yes, I'm attacking you, and I don't care any more. You have ruined this forum for too many for too long and I include your trolling of me a few weeks back in that. You need to have a bloody good look at yourself. I will accept my forthcoming ban with good grace and no malice. Sorry mate, I totally understand what you're saying, but GGMI is probably laughing right about now. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 26, 2015 19:20:49 GMT
It's not the Mods that are the problem. It's certain users. Respectfully disagree, when this forum started you had mods (or mod) abusing the forum users then when that Mod left the mods ignored forum users abusing each other. It was just a free for all. I know its a balance between free speech and respect but I personally think its not worked. Thats why I quit, I come on here to talk Rovers not to be called all the names under the son because I make a few mistakes with some of my posts. On coming back all be it not intentionally full time it did appear a lot better but its clearly still an issue if people are continuing to quit. The rule should be attack the post not the poster and where that doesn't happen people need to step in. Mods would not need to step in if everyone followed the rules. I completely understand RDs decision. It's an impossible task and as a Mod there seems to be an unreasonable expectation that you will have read and understood every single post on every single thread. Sometimes, as RD has found out today you get sh** when you act (locking a thread) and you get sh** if you do nothing. Packing in modding was the best thing I ever did. All I ever got was wall to wall grief and an inbox full of unpleasant messages or moans. It's a shame because I was proud of being part of what can be a fantasic place. Mods are not here 24/7. Sometimes it may be hours or even days after an event that you find out someone has taken offense or A rule has been broken. Often by that time things have cooled down so as a Mod you let it go rather than stir it all up again. The original mods set the site up in the hope that people were going to be able to show a little respect to one another. Clearly that's beyond some. None of us ever wanted to be mods in the first place, we just wanted somewhere to go after the closing of the OF. I've neither the will, nor the inclination to debate what everyone thinks a Mod here should do. The simple fact is that posters should moderate themselves. |
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Post by Big Jock on Oct 26, 2015 19:23:09 GMT
Jes tell me ffs is it now a free fur all (please say aye) Aye Cheers pal top geezer and thanks fur yer hard graft pal i do feel a bit sorry fur ya none of this would have happened if ggmi's maw would have chuffkin swallowed ffs! |
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Post by RD on Oct 26, 2015 19:27:13 GMT
Respectfully disagree, when this forum started you had mods (or mod) abusing the forum users then when that Mod left the mods ignored forum users abusing each other. It was just a free for all. I know its a balance between free speech and respect but I personally think its not worked. Thats why I quit, I come on here to talk Rovers not to be called all the names under the son because I make a few mistakes with some of my posts. On coming back all be it not intentionally full time it did appear a lot better but its clearly still an issue if people are continuing to quit. The rule should be attack the post not the poster and where that doesn't happen people need to step in. Mods would not need to step in if everyone followed the rules. I completely understand RDs decision. It's an impossible task and as a Mod there seems to be an unreasonable expectation that you will have read and understood every single post on every single thread. Sometimes, as RD has found our today you get sh** when you act (locking a thread) and you get sh** if you do nothing. Packing in modding was the best thing I ever did. All I ever got was wall to wall grief and an inbox full of unpleasant messages or moans. It's a shame because I was proud of being part of what can be a fantasic place. Mods are not here 24/7. Sometimes it may be hours or even days after an event that you find out someone has taken offense or A rule has been broken. Often by that time things have cooled down so as a Mod you let it go rather than stir it all up again. The original mods set the site up in the hope that people were going to be able to show a little respect to one another. Clearly that's beyond some. None of us ever wanted to be mods in the first place, we just wanted somewhere to go after the closing of the OF. I've neither the will, nor the inclination to debate what everyone thinks a Mod here should do. The simple fact is that posters should moderate themselves. Thanks mate - I completely agree. In the old days when the forum was smaller, it was obviously MUCH easier to moderate. Now with a couple of thousand users, it is very difficult to do so. The issue with being a mod is that you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Take no action and you're not doing your job. Lock a thread/delete a post/ban a user and your acting like "North Korea" and trying to censor the masses. You're f*cked either way. Ultimately this is a football forum. It's pathetic frankly that we ever argue - I could understand it if we all supported different teams, but we all support the same side! Granted it would be silly to think that everyone on the forum will always get along, but I still find it hard to believe that people moan as much as they do. Ideally the Mod team would be full-time, but that is highly unrealistic unless forum members are prepared to pay a membership fee high enough to cover someones salary. No? Thought not. The reality is - as Hugo puts it - people need to moderate themselves. Furthermore, as pointed out countless times before, people should just block those posters who annoy them. If they did that, you've effectively banned them anyway! |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Oct 26, 2015 19:30:57 GMT
Mods would not need to step in if everyone followed the rules. I completely understand RDs decision. It's an impossible task and as a Mod there seems to be an unreasonable expectation that you will have read and understood every single post on every single thread. Sometimes, as RD has found our today you get sh** when you act (locking a thread) and you get sh** if you do nothing. Packing in modding was the best thing I ever did. All I ever got was wall to wall grief and an inbox full of unpleasant messages or moans. It's a shame because I was proud of being part of what can be a fantasic place. Mods are not here 24/7. Sometimes it may be hours or even days after an event that you find out someone has taken offense or A rule has been broken. Often by that time things have cooled down so as a Mod you let it go rather than stir it all up again. The original mods set the site up in the hope that people were going to be able to show a little respect to one another. Clearly that's beyond some. None of us ever wanted to be mods in the first place, we just wanted somewhere to go after the closing of the OF. I've neither the will, nor the inclination to debate what everyone thinks a Mod here should do. The simple fact is that posters should moderate themselves. Thanks mate - I completely agree. In the old days when the forum was smaller, it was obviously MUCH easier to moderate. Now with a couple of thousand users, it is very difficult to do so. The issue with being a mod is that you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Take no action and you're not doing your job. Lock a thread/delete a post/ban a user and your acting like "North Korea" and trying to censor the masses. You're f*cked either way. Ultimately this is a football forum. It's pathetic frankly that we ever argue - I could understand it if we all supported different teams, but we all support the same side! Granted it would be silly to think that everyone on the forum will always get along, but I still find it hard to believe that people moan as much as they do. Ideally the Mod team would be full-time, but that is highly unrealistic unless forum members are prepared to pay a membership fee high enough to cover someones salary. No? Thought not. The reality is - as Hugo puts it - people need to moderate themselves. Furthermore, as pointed out countless times before, people should just block those posters who annoy them. If they did that, you've effectively banned them anyway! The problem is that there are Gasheads who get their jollies off watering off other Gasheads. It is very odd but unfortunately it's nothing new. |
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Post by dinsdale on Oct 26, 2015 19:32:25 GMT
Respectfully disagree, when this forum started you had mods (or mod) abusing the forum users then when that Mod left the mods ignored forum users abusing each other. It was just a free for all. I know its a balance between free speech and respect but I personally think its not worked. Thats why I quit, I come on here to talk Rovers not to be called all the names under the son because I make a few mistakes with some of my posts. On coming back all be it not intentionally full time it did appear a lot better but its clearly still an issue if people are continuing to quit. The rule should be attack the post not the poster and where that doesn't happen people need to step in. Mods would not need to step in if everyone followed the rules. I completely understand RDs decision. It's an impossible task and as a Mod there seems to be an unreasonable expectation that you will have read and understood every single post on every single thread. Sometimes, as RD has found out today you get sh** when you act (locking a thread) and you get sh** if you do nothing. Packing in modding was the best thing I ever did. All I ever got was wall to wall grief and an inbox full of unpleasant messages or moans. It's a shame because I was proud of being part of what can be a fantasic place. Mods are not here 24/7. Sometimes it may be hours or even days after an event that you find out someone has taken offense or A rule has been broken. Often by that time things have cooled down so as a Mod you let it go rather than stir it all up again. The original mods set the site up in the hope that people were going to be able to show a little respect to one another. Clearly that's beyond some. None of us ever wanted to be mods in the first place, we just wanted somewhere to go after the closing of the OF. I've neither the will, nor the inclination to debate what everyone thinks a Mod here should do. The simple fact is that posters should moderate themselves. The issues I had with the Mods was not missing other peoples abuse but joining in, especially RAS |
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Post by RD on Oct 26, 2015 19:38:11 GMT
Mods would not need to step in if everyone followed the rules. I completely understand RDs decision. It's an impossible task and as a Mod there seems to be an unreasonable expectation that you will have read and understood every single post on every single thread. Sometimes, as RD has found out today you get sh** when you act (locking a thread) and you get sh** if you do nothing. Packing in modding was the best thing I ever did. All I ever got was wall to wall grief and an inbox full of unpleasant messages or moans. It's a shame because I was proud of being part of what can be a fantasic place. Mods are not here 24/7. Sometimes it may be hours or even days after an event that you find out someone has taken offense or A rule has been broken. Often by that time things have cooled down so as a Mod you let it go rather than stir it all up again. The original mods set the site up in the hope that people were going to be able to show a little respect to one another. Clearly that's beyond some. None of us ever wanted to be mods in the first place, we just wanted somewhere to go after the closing of the OF. I've neither the will, nor the inclination to debate what everyone thinks a Mod here should do. The simple fact is that posters should moderate themselves. The issues I had with the Mods was not missing other peoples abuse but joining in, especially RAS Even IF you felt Ras "abused" you, I take exception to you making out it was in some way a number of mods. That is simply untrue. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 26, 2015 19:39:55 GMT
Mods would not need to step in if everyone followed the rules. I completely understand RDs decision. It's an impossible task and as a Mod there seems to be an unreasonable expectation that you will have read and understood every single post on every single thread. Sometimes, as RD has found out today you get sh** when you act (locking a thread) and you get sh** if you do nothing. Packing in modding was the best thing I ever did. All I ever got was wall to wall grief and an inbox full of unpleasant messages or moans. It's a shame because I was proud of being part of what can be a fantasic place. Mods are not here 24/7. Sometimes it may be hours or even days after an event that you find out someone has taken offense or A rule has been broken. Often by that time things have cooled down so as a Mod you let it go rather than stir it all up again. The original mods set the site up in the hope that people were going to be able to show a little respect to one another. Clearly that's beyond some. None of us ever wanted to be mods in the first place, we just wanted somewhere to go after the closing of the OF. I've neither the will, nor the inclination to debate what everyone thinks a Mod here should do. The simple fact is that posters should moderate themselves. The issues I had with the Mods was not missing other peoples abuse but joining in, especially RAS Which is why he stepped down. He was aware he wasn't really cut out for moderation but he was the founder and driving force in making this place. |
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