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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 11:16:45 GMT
Tyson Fury is being hounded by the media because of his views on homosexuality, yet his views are mild compared to those of a certain religion around the world. There are whole nation states, recognised by the West, who indulge in barbaric practices against homosexuals, yet we hear not a peep from the MSM. Funny ole world eh?
PS - Does anyone have any news regarding same-sex marriages being held in a Mosque near you?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 14, 2015 12:04:41 GMT
Tyson Fury is being hounded by the media because of his views on homosexuality, yet his views are mild compared to those of a certain religion around the world. There are whole nation states, recognised by the West, who indulge in barbaric practices against homosexuals, yet we hear not a peep from the MSM. Funny ole world eh? PS - Does anyone have any news regarding same-sex marriages being held in a Mosque near you? Now that we can agree on. Its not just Islam though. Look at Catholicism too. I just can't understand why we all can't just be a bit nicer to one another in the world. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 12:21:46 GMT
Tyson Fury is being hounded by the media because of his views on homosexuality, yet his views are mild compared to those of a certain religion around the world. There are whole nation states, recognised by the West, who indulge in barbaric practices against homosexuals, yet we hear not a peep from the MSM. Funny ole world eh? PS - Does anyone have any news regarding same-sex marriages being held in a Mosque near you? Now that we can agree on. Its not just Islam though. Look at Catholicism too. I just can't understand why we all can't just be a bit nicer to one another in the world. Just to be controversial for a change, here's my opinion.......... It's because religion needs strife, it needs war, it needs poor people, it needs suffering and poverty. It needs all these things to grow, and like it or not, religion is a business and like any other business, it wants to grow. Religion feeds off of suffering. It offers hope (albeit a false hope), and for people to grasp that hope, they need to be suffering. |
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Post by pirateman on Dec 14, 2015 12:26:55 GMT
Now that we can agree on. Its not just Islam though. Look at Catholicism too. I just can't understand why we all can't just be a bit nicer to one another in the world. Just to be controversial for a change, here's my opinion.......... It's because religion needs strife, it needs war, it needs poor people, it needs suffering and poverty. It needs all these things to grow, and like it or not, religion is a business and like any other business, it wants to grow. Religion feeds off of suffering. It offers hope (albeit a false hope), and for people to grasp that hope, they need to be suffering. Unfortunately religion will not die out, largely because on average religious people have more children than non religious people and most of them follow their parents' religion |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 14, 2015 12:30:18 GMT
Now that we can agree on. Its not just Islam though. Look at Catholicism too. I just can't understand why we all can't just be a bit nicer to one another in the world. Just to be controversial for a change, here's my opinion.......... It's because religion needs strife, it needs war, it needs poor people, it needs suffering and poverty. It needs all these things to grow, and like it or not, religion is a business and like any other business, it wants to grow. Religion feeds off of suffering. It offers hope (albeit a false hope), and for people to grasp that hope, they need to be suffering. Amen Brother. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 14, 2015 19:04:06 GMT
What beliefs can you have against gays? People don't choose to be gay,it is the way they are. It doesn't affect other people, anybody that has a problem with gays can quite frankly f**k off. So you asked for people's opinions, people gave you their opinions, you don't agree with said opinions so you tell them to f*ck off. Classy. Look up the definition of rhetorical question. |
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Post by inee on Dec 14, 2015 22:17:06 GMT
Why shouldn't it and why is it sad, people have the right to either like something or not, quick question do you agree with the muslim religion or dont you(very relevant to this thread, If tyson don't like tunnel testers so what the world isn't going to end. There are many reasons people don't like homo's and who are we to even begin to question what they think, it could be against their beliefs, could be they just don't like it, could also be they were abused by gay. so no it's up to an individual to decide if they approve or not, tbh i want to puke when i see blokes or women kissing the same sex, it's just not normal or natural, if it was then everyone would have been born with a dick or everyone would have been born with a lady garden. The only reason men and women exist is to reproduce, no other reason, so if someone chooses to be into same sex whatever why should they be allowed to adopt kids ,that just aint right, if you aint prepared to put in the graft to make a babber then you shouldn't be allowed someone elses simple. What beliefs can you have against gays? People don't choose to be gay,it is the way they are. It doesn't affect other people, anybody that has a problem with gays can quite frankly f**k off. You do crack i up, everytime you are asked a question you seem to avoid answering it,you asked for opinions you got some not everyone will agree with you or me, people have disagreed with my opinion in this thread, i don't feel the need to tell em to f**k off, i would rather discuss the points with them, i do feel sorry for you fella, Aghast disagreed with my post i would have no problem having a beer and a chat with him. as in my mind just because we disagree it doesn't make him any better or worse than me , From the way you replied it seems that you are one of those who thinks that if someone doesn't have the same views as yourself they are somehow inferior, so will you answer the question i asked, and reread my post and try and grasp why some people will disagree with your love of gays, If your that way inclined so what no need to have a hissy fit about it |
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Post by inee on Dec 14, 2015 22:31:19 GMT
Absolutely right aghast but the thought of another man sticking his penis into my bottom feels me with dread and anxiety, the thought of others doing it to eachother makes me want to throw up. Apparantly in todays world if you don`t want a man to bugger you it means that you are a closet homo who is not comfortable loving your wife/girlfriend and having sex in a natural way................................The modern PC world is so f*cked up. so true, it's something that has wound me up for years, it seems that the if you disagree with these people they all hit back with the same answers, it's like the mass brainwashing poster displayed in social services offices and schools, you know the one that says if your not part of the solution you're the problem. It should read welcome to uncle joe stalins version of democracy if you don't think like all us sheep then we will keep on until everyone agrees with us as having your own thoughts,feelings or opinions is not allowed |
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Post by inee on Dec 14, 2015 22:33:11 GMT
Here is the BBC link to the cretin who thinks that Greater Manchester Police have nothing better to do than investigate the heavyweight champion of the world for offending him with a few words.I wouldn`t be surprised if it was Mr Sawyer who complained to the BBC and got the word "faggot" bleeped out on the Pogues wonderful christmas song Fairytale of New York because he was deeply offended.I doubt Mr Sawyer gets offended with thousands of gay blokes prancing through capital cities every year wearing leather hot pants acting as promiscuous as possible in order to shock normal folk into accepting their behaviour as normal.
Mr SawyerDid you read that article yet another example of someone trying to mix up tysons words to make him look bad to the majority of people, that sawyer bell end should also be reported for hate crimes againt homo's |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 14, 2015 22:34:03 GMT
What beliefs can you have against gays? People don't choose to be gay,it is the way they are. It doesn't affect other people, anybody that has a problem with gays can quite frankly f**k off. You do crack i up, everytime you are asked a question you seem to avoid answering it,you asked for opinions you got some not everyone will agree with you or me, people have disagreed with my opinion in this thread, i don't feel the need to tell em to f**k off, i would rather discuss the points with them, i do feel sorry for you fella, Aghast disagreed with my post i would have no problem having a beer and a chat with him. as in my mind just because we disagree it doesn't make him any better or worse than me , From the way you replied it seems that you are one of those who thinks that if someone doesn't have the same views as yourself they are somehow inferior, so will you answer the question i asked, and reread my post and try and grasp why some people will disagree with your love of gays, If your that way inclined so what no need to have a hissy fit about it So I am now being accused of being gay just because I am defending them?! |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 14, 2015 22:35:45 GMT
Absolutely right aghast but the thought of another man sticking his penis into my bottom feels me with dread and anxiety, the thought of others doing it to eachother makes me want to throw up. Apparantly in todays world if you don`t want a man to bugger you it means that you are a closet homo who is not comfortable loving your wife/girlfriend and having sex in a natural way................................The modern PC world is so f*cked up. so true, it's something that has wound me up for years, it seems that the if you disagree with these people they all hit back with the same answers, it's like the mass brainwashing poster displayed in social services offices and schools, you know the one that says if your not part of the solution you're the problem. It should read welcome to uncle joe stalins version of democracy if you don't think like all us sheep then we will keep on until everyone agrees with us as having your own thoughts,feelings or opinions is not allowed I'm not a politically correct person at all and don't follow sheep. I have my thoughts and beliefs. My belief with homosexuals in that is there choice and as long as they are happy who are we to question or turn our noses up at them? Why does it affect us? |
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Post by inee on Dec 14, 2015 22:37:40 GMT
What beliefs can you have against gays? People don't choose to be gay,it is the way they are. It doesn't affect other people, anybody that has a problem with gays can quite frankly f**k off. I'm not sure how that supports your point of view or helps educate people that your accepting view of homosexuality is more valid than one of homophobia. If your ideas and logic for taking an anti homophobe stance are sound then surely it's better to engage with people employing failed logic? There's no failed logic on my part, it's my opinion and i'm entitled to it as is ggmi, i will still discus this with him on here but i fear it won't happen as he seems very reluctant to converse in most of his threads when someone disagrees almost to the point of do i call him comrade or mien fuhrer |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 14, 2015 22:40:30 GMT
What beliefs can you have against gays? People don't choose to be gay,it is the way they are. It doesn't affect other people, anybody that has a problem with gays can quite frankly f**k off. I'm not sure how that supports your point of view or helps educate people that your accepting view of homosexuality is more valid than one of homophobia. If your ideas and logic for taking an anti homophobe stance are sound then surely it's better to engage with people employing failed logic? I don't understand why people would choose to be homophobic. Being gay is not a choice. Being homophobic is. |
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Post by inee on Dec 14, 2015 22:41:06 GMT
so true, it's something that has wound me up for years, it seems that the if you disagree with these people they all hit back with the same answers, it's like the mass brainwashing poster displayed in social services offices and schools, you know the one that says if your not part of the solution you're the problem. It should read welcome to uncle joe stalins version of democracy if you don't think like all us sheep then we will keep on until everyone agrees with us as having your own thoughts,feelings or opinions is not allowed I'm not a politically correct person at all and don't follow sheep. I have my thoughts and beliefs. My belief with homosexuals in that is there choice and as long as they are happy who are we to question or turn our noses up at them? Why does it affect us? Funny a few posts ago you said they had no choice now you say they have a choice, again if you had bothered to read the post where you told me to f**k off, i gave several reasons why some are against and one reason why it affects some. We will never agree on this subject but i dont mind having a discussion on here about it |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 14, 2015 22:44:20 GMT
I'm not a politically correct person at all and don't follow sheep. I have my thoughts and beliefs. My belief with homosexuals in that is there choice and as long as they are happy who are we to question or turn our noses up at them? Why does it affect us? Funny a few posts ago you said they had no choice now you say they have a choice, again if you had bothered to read the post where you told me to f**k off, i gave several reasons why some are against and one reason why it affects some. We will never agree on this subject but i dont mind having a discussion on here about it It isn't a choice. My sentence was just poorly worded. There are no reasons to be a homophobe. It is a sad decision that some people choose to be one and try and back it up using failed logic. It's like a racist trying to back up being racist because they got punched once by a black person at school. That doesn't mean that all black people are bad people unfortunately some people aren't intelligent enough to see that. |
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Post by inee on Dec 14, 2015 22:44:51 GMT
You do crack i up, everytime you are asked a question you seem to avoid answering it,you asked for opinions you got some not everyone will agree with you or me, people have disagreed with my opinion in this thread, i don't feel the need to tell em to f**k off, i would rather discuss the points with them, i do feel sorry for you fella, Aghast disagreed with my post i would have no problem having a beer and a chat with him. as in my mind just because we disagree it doesn't make him any better or worse than me , From the way you replied it seems that you are one of those who thinks that if someone doesn't have the same views as yourself they are somehow inferior, so will you answer the question i asked, and reread my post and try and grasp why some people will disagree with your love of gays, If your that way inclined so what no need to have a hissy fit about it So I am now being accused of being gay just because I am defending them?! No read read with an open mind and you will see i never said you is gay, the last sentence was referring to the part in bold, but it seems you chosse to make it mean something else |
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Post by inee on Dec 14, 2015 22:49:31 GMT
Funny a few posts ago you said they had no choice now you say they have a choice, again if you had bothered to read the post where you told me to f**k off, i gave several reasons why some are against and one reason why it affects some. We will never agree on this subject but i dont mind having a discussion on here about it It isn't a choice. My sentence was just poorly worded. There are no reasons to be a homophobe. It is a sad decision that some people choose to be one and try and back it up using failed logic. It's like a racist trying to back up being racist because they got punched once by a black person at school. That doesn't mean that all black people are bad people unfortunately some people aren't intelligent enough to see that. Show me documented proof that it is not a choice, i find it quite interesting that you should use bring race into this topic and use blacks as an example of a different race, not sure why you did it but it's commonly done to try and divert people thoughts to the two issues being the same, when in reality they are two totally different things , again i refer you back to my post where i quite clearly ask you a question and give reasons why some do not like homo's |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 22:58:56 GMT
I'm not sure how that supports your point of view or helps educate people that your accepting view of homosexuality is more valid than one of homophobia. If your ideas and logic for taking an anti homophobe stance are sound then surely it's better to engage with people employing failed logic? I don't understand why people would choose to be homophobic. Being gay is not a choice. Being homophobic is. Quick change of heart there ggmi,5 minutes earlier you posted being gay is their choice.Make your mind up! ahh too slow,knees on your ass. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 5:16:14 GMT
I don't understand why people would choose to be homophobic. Being gay is not a choice. Being homophobic is. Quick change of heart there ggmi,5 minutes earlier you posted being gay is their choice.Make your mind up! ahh too slow,knees on your ass. Hhmmmm, you seem familiar with the required position. Anything you want to tell us? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 15:30:53 GMT
Now that we can agree on. Its not just Islam though. Look at Catholicism too. I just can't understand why we all can't just be a bit nicer to one another in the world. Just to be controversial for a change, here's my opinion.......... It's because religion needs strife, it needs war, it needs poor people, it needs suffering and poverty. It needs all these things to grow, and like it or not, religion is a business and like any other business, it wants to grow. Religion feeds off of suffering. It offers hope (albeit a false hope), and for people to grasp that hope, they need to be suffering. And power,the leaders of religion love the power,every culture ever formed have invented gods from jungle isolated tribes to the Greeks and so on,and the human who had the gods ear also had power. I can understand peoples in the past inventing gods as they answered the questions,why are we here,where did we come from,what happens when we cease to exist. But at this time to still believe the Earth is only six thousand years old or that everything in the universe was created just for us is laughable. As for homosexuals not something I like but I don't have too,each to there own as long as there happy |
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