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Post by inee on Dec 17, 2015 20:46:40 GMT
And tbh even discussing if homophobia is right or wrong disgusts me makes me feel sick. This thread wasn't supposed to be about that, it was supposed to be about Tyson Fury. Then perhaps you should have made it clear that opinions guys ,really meant please agree with me as i'm on the bandwagon and so closed minded that i am unable to discuss things with people who don't agree with me, my ego won't take it and besides if you do disagree i will divert the course of the topic so i appear to always be correct as i have no discussion or debating skills whatsoever ,but if you agree with me i can and will talk forever. You simply need to take a long hard swig out of the cup of grow the f**k up and realise not everyone likes gays, as i will reiterate some disagree with you and guess what the Dam world hasn't ended, you really do appear to be one of those who stamps their feet and will shout to the world you have been wronged until ,everyone agrees with you, i also suspect that conversations are extremely limited when you are in attendance, as yet again you have failed to discuss anything, refused to answer one simple question that was asked, now if your memory is as good as your discussion skills, i will have to remind you in a discussion on muslims you gave me a similar type of reply as you have here , so please tell me how you live within the hypocrisy bubble that is your thought process , as you openly called me an idiot for hating a religion(one of several i hate). You then open this thread, slag a few off for our views, conveniently forgetting your love for a religion of intolerance and hate towards gays , you are one of the biggest wums on the forum as you start threads which you know will cause people to disagree then run away and not answer good valid discussion point. As was said on a popular game show years back, it's make your mind up time, reread what i posted originally and look at reasons i have posted for people to dislike gays, they are valid reasons, who knows if you actually open your mind you may become intelligent at some point in your life If you think this is a personal responce the n f**k it read my avatar   |
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Post by aghast on Dec 17, 2015 21:44:36 GMT
Well if we're bringing it back on track to Tyson Fury, or at least his comments about gays, he said:
Regardless of whether you think homophobia is acceptable, these comments are without a shadow of a doubt homophobic. Linking homosexuality to paedophilia as two of the three things which will bring about the end of the world makes that quite clear.
So do those of you who are homophobic, and support the right to be so, agree with Tyson Fury's comments?
Or is he wrong to say this crap?
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Post by jaggas on Dec 17, 2015 22:33:38 GMT
I am more interested in his accomplishments in the ring rather than his bible bashing.But if we take a look at your link who in the 50s and 60s would have thought homosexuality would be legal a few decades later? I am not sure on abortion I think there are occasions it should be used for example if a woman is raped and she doesn`t want the child.It shouldn`t be used by Asian and African immigrants to get rid of of a female fetus as they favour males.
The third one is a real can of worms, it is quite clear that people in the highest positions oF authority in the UK have abused little boys and girls for decades and the establishment have covered it up.It will never be legal in a decent moral society but peadophilia is one of the backbones of the religion of Islam and was practised by the prophet Mohammad and has been practiced by many rulers of Islamic States even in modern times the practice of "thighing" is rife in Islam and encouraged.
Tony Blairs new Labour government went borderline with homosexual peadophilia by making it legal for boys of 16 to be buggered. I suppose that was to appease the likes of Mandleson who liked his boys young.The age of buggery being lowered was one of the first pieces of legislation introduced by Tony Blairs government so there seemed to some kind of rush to get those 16 year olds buggered legally.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 18, 2015 6:18:45 GMT
I am more interested in his accomplishments in the ring rather than his bible bashing.But if we take a look at your link who in the 50s and 60s would have thought homosexuality would be legal a few decades later? I am not sure on abortion I think there are occasions it should be used for example if a woman is raped and she doesn`t want the child.It shouldn`t be used by Asian and African immigrants to get rid of of a female fetus as they favour males. The third one is a real can of worms, it is quite clear that people in the highest positions oF authority in the UK have abused little boys and girls for decades and the establishment have covered it up.It will never be legal in a decent moral society but peadophilia is one of the backbones of the religion of Islam and was practised by the prophet Mohammad and has been practiced by many rulers of Islamic States even in modern times the practice of "thighing" is rife in Islam and encouraged. Tony Blairs new Labour government went borderline with homosexual peadophilia by making it legal for boys of 16 to be buggered. I suppose that was to appease the likes of Mandleson who liked his boys young.The age of buggery being lowered was one of the first pieces of legislation introduced by Tony Blairs government so there seemed to some kind of rush to get those 16 year olds buggered legally. Well, if was wrong in the 60s it must be wrong today.... Maybe we should go back a bit further into the past and bring back slavery, because you know, that was kinda cool right? Ooh, and women's rights too. f**k em. Also, what's the legal age for same sex couples? Why is it not paedophilia for a man to have sex with a girl of that age but it's apparently bordering on it for same sex couples? |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 18, 2015 8:21:34 GMT
And tbh even discussing if homophobia is right or wrong disgusts me makes me feel sick. This thread wasn't supposed to be about that, it was supposed to be about Tyson Fury. Then perhaps you should have made it clear that opinions guys ,really meant please agree with me as i'm on the bandwagon and so closed minded that i am unable to discuss things with people who don't agree with me, my ego won't take it and besides if you do disagree i will divert the course of the topic so i appear to always be correct as i have no discussion or debating skills whatsoever ,but if you agree with me i can and will talk forever. You simply need to take a long hard swig out of the cup of grow the f**k up and realise not everyone likes gays, as i will reiterate some disagree with you and guess what the f**king world hasn't ended, you really do appear to be one of those who stamps their feet and will shout to the world you have been wronged until ,everyone agrees with you, i also suspect that conversations are extremely limited when you are in attendance, as yet again you have failed to discuss anything, refused to answer one simple question that was asked, now if your memory is as good as your discussion skills, i will have to remind you in a discussion on muslims you gave me a similar type of reply as you have here , so please tell me how you live within the hypocrisy bubble that is your thought process , as you openly called me an idiot for hating a religion(one of several i hate). You then open this thread, slag a few off for our views, conveniently forgetting your love for a religion of intolerance and hate towards gays , you are one of the biggest wums on the forum as you start threads which you know will cause people to disagree then run away and not answer good valid discussion point. As was said on a popular game show years back, it's make your mind up time, reread what i posted originally and look at reasons i have posted for people to dislike gays, they are valid reasons, who knows if you actually open your mind you may become intelligent at some point in your life If you think this is a personal responce the n f**k it read my avatar Opinions guys was thoughts on Tyson Fury not homophobia. I was hoping there wouldn't be any homophobes on here, I thought that sort of thing had died out in the 21st century. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 8:34:13 GMT
Then perhaps you should have made it clear that opinions guys ,really meant please agree with me as i'm on the bandwagon and so closed minded that i am unable to discuss things with people who don't agree with me, my ego won't take it and besides if you do disagree i will divert the course of the topic so i appear to always be correct as i have no discussion or debating skills whatsoever ,but if you agree with me i can and will talk forever. You simply need to take a long hard swig out of the cup of grow the f**k up and realise not everyone likes gays, as i will reiterate some disagree with you and guess what the f**king world hasn't ended, you really do appear to be one of those who stamps their feet and will shout to the world you have been wronged until ,everyone agrees with you, i also suspect that conversations are extremely limited when you are in attendance, as yet again you have failed to discuss anything, refused to answer one simple question that was asked, now if your memory is as good as your discussion skills, i will have to remind you in a discussion on muslims you gave me a similar type of reply as you have here , so please tell me how you live within the hypocrisy bubble that is your thought process , as you openly called me an idiot for hating a religion(one of several i hate). You then open this thread, slag a few off for our views, conveniently forgetting your love for a religion of intolerance and hate towards gays , you are one of the biggest wums on the forum as you start threads which you know will cause people to disagree then run away and not answer good valid discussion point. As was said on a popular game show years back, it's make your mind up time, reread what i posted originally and look at reasons i have posted for people to dislike gays, they are valid reasons, who knows if you actually open your mind you may become intelligent at some point in your life If you think this is a personal responce the n f**k it read my avatar Opinions guys was thoughts on Tyson Fury not homophobia. I was hoping there wouldn't be any homophobes on here, I thought that sort of thing had died out in the 21st century. Well, you obviously thought everyone was going to agree with you, with backslaps and high-fives all round. Anyone not agreeing with you are obviously homophobes in your very narrow opinion. You were not looking for opinions. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 18, 2015 8:51:27 GMT
I think its important to make the distinction between not personally liking something and homophobia.
I'm fairly sure it's not homophobic in the legal sense to dislike gay men or the gay lifestyle. It only becomes so when you act in a negative or discriminatory way towards that group based on your beliefs.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 18, 2015 9:00:18 GMT
I think its important to make the distinction between not personally liking something and homophobia. I'm fairly sure it's not homophobic in the legal sense to dislike gay men or the gay lifestyle. It only becomes so when you act in a negative or discriminatory way towards that group based on your beliefs. For me disliking gay men purely because they are gay is bang out. If you find certain characteristics of some gay men annoying then that is fair enough but to say you dislike gay men and disapprove of people being gay is pathetic and sad. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 9:06:44 GMT
I think its important to make the distinction between not personally liking something and homophobia. I'm fairly sure it's not homophobic in the legal sense to dislike gay men or the gay lifestyle. It only becomes so when you act in a negative or discriminatory way towards that group based on your beliefs. For me disliking gay men purely because they are gay is bang out. If you find certain characteristics of some gay men annoying then that is fair enough but to say you dislike gay men and disapprove of people being gay is pathetic and sad. So, if I choose not to watch Bareback Mountain because the subject matter is something I am not interested in makes me (in your very narrow small-minded opinion) pathetic and sad, then you really need to take a good look in the mirror yourself. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 18, 2015 9:09:40 GMT
For me disliking gay men purely because they are gay is bang out. If you find certain characteristics of some gay men annoying then that is fair enough but to say you dislike gay men and disapprove of people being gay is pathetic and sad. So, if I choose not to watch Bareback Mountain because the subject matter is something I am not interested in makes me (in your very narrow small-minded opinion) pathetic and sad, then you really need to take a good look in the mirror yourself. To be fair you've totally turned that into something to suit your agenda. I have never watched and never planned to watch that film so not sure what you are getting at there? I didn't say you had to be interested in gays. I just think it is sad if you can't accept them for what they are if that is what makes them happy. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 9:14:48 GMT
My agenda? Oh the irony.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 11:08:38 GMT
And tbh even discussing if homophobia is right or wrong disgusts me makes me feel sick. This thread wasn't supposed to be about that, it was supposed to be about Tyson Fury. Then perhaps you should have made it clear that opinions guys ,really meant please agree with me as i'm on the bandwagon and so closed minded that i am unable to discuss things with people who don't agree with me, my ego won't take it and besides if you do disagree i will divert the course of the topic so i appear to always be correct as i have no discussion or debating skills whatsoever ,but if you agree with me i can and will talk forever. You simply need to take a long hard swig out of the cup of grow the f**k up and realise not everyone likes gays, as i will reiterate some disagree with you and guess what the f**king world hasn't ended, you really do appear to be one of those who stamps their feet and will shout to the world you have been wronged until ,everyone agrees with you, i also suspect that conversations are extremely limited when you are in attendance, as yet again you have failed to discuss anything, refused to answer one simple question that was asked, now if your memory is as good as your discussion skills, i will have to remind you in a discussion on muslims you gave me a similar type of reply as you have here , so please tell me how you live within the hypocrisy bubble that is your thought process , as you openly called me an idiot for hating a religion(one of several i hate). You then open this thread, slag a few off for our views, conveniently forgetting your love for a religion of intolerance and hate towards gays , you are one of the biggest wums on the forum as you start threads which you know will cause people to disagree then run away and not answer good valid discussion point. As was said on a popular game show years back, it's make your mind up time, reread what i posted originally and look at reasons i have posted for people to dislike gays, they are valid reasons, who knows if you actually open your mind you may become intelligent at some point in your life If you think this is a personal responce the n f**k it read my avatar Good post. |
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Post by inee on Dec 18, 2015 11:59:13 GMT
Then perhaps you should have made it clear that opinions guys ,really meant please agree with me as i'm on the bandwagon and so closed minded that i am unable to discuss things with people who don't agree with me, my ego won't take it and besides if you do disagree i will divert the course of the topic so i appear to always be correct as i have no discussion or debating skills whatsoever ,but if you agree with me i can and will talk forever. You simply need to take a long hard swig out of the cup of grow the f**k up and realise not everyone likes gays, as i will reiterate some disagree with you and guess what the f**king world hasn't ended, you really do appear to be one of those who stamps their feet and will shout to the world you have been wronged until ,everyone agrees with you, i also suspect that conversations are extremely limited when you are in attendance, as yet again you have failed to discuss anything, refused to answer one simple question that was asked, now if your memory is as good as your discussion skills, i will have to remind you in a discussion on muslims you gave me a similar type of reply as you have here , so please tell me how you live within the hypocrisy bubble that is your thought process , as you openly called me an idiot for hating a religion(one of several i hate). You then open this thread, slag a few off for our views, conveniently forgetting your love for a religion of intolerance and hate towards gays , you are one of the biggest wums on the forum as you start threads which you know will cause people to disagree then run away and not answer good valid discussion point. As was said on a popular game show years back, it's make your mind up time, reread what i posted originally and look at reasons i have posted for people to dislike gays, they are valid reasons, who knows if you actually open your mind you may become intelligent at some point in your life If you think this is a personal responce the n f**k it read my avatar Opinions guys was thoughts on Tyson Fury not homophobia. I was hoping there wouldn't be any homophobes on here, I thought that sort of thing had died out in the 21st century. Jeez fella are you red rum as you need to remove the blinkers , two things why cant you answer simple questions ans secondly, if your reply is genuine then why has it taken sh** loads of posts before you suddenly declared you that only wanted opinions on Tyson fury you could have made it clear right from the start |
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Post by inee on Dec 18, 2015 12:17:58 GMT
Well if we're bringing it back on track to Tyson Fury, or at least his comments about gays, he said:
Regardless of whether you think homophobia is acceptable, these comments are without a shadow of a doubt homophobic. Linking homosexuality to paedophilia as two of the three things which will bring about the end of the world makes that quite clear.
So do those of you who are homophobic, and support the right to be so, agree with Tyson Fury's comments?
Or is he wrong to say this crap? First of i'm not homophobic as i have no fear of gays,however i just find it vile and unnatural. Tyson is entitled to those comments and if you read it properly he doesn't link kiddie fiddlers to gays, if i read it in the way many have i would say he was calling women pedos as abortion appears after gay not the other way around, funnily enough everyone has picked up on the word gay and pedo, no one has mentioned abortion, where do i stand on pedos many know my views and they should be chained and handed to the victims family and beaten by anyone for 15mins until death , Abortion agree with abortion in certain circumstances, i don't agree with it as a contraceptive. I never understood why people these days seem to randomly join words together in text, instead of reading what is written in the context it is written, 3 things in his list none connected (ok factually you could say these are connected as pedos can be straight , gay or lesbian) , however that was not the context it was written in. These are his beliefs bought on by his religion, i am against all forms of religion (except for the modern worship at the alter of keep up with the joneses only joking) . I despise organised religion and hate a few religions with a vengeance, one very large religion has changed the age of mary, it's commonly held that mary was young 12-15) , one religions has changed her age to something akin to a couple of years older than the modern age of consent (see why i don't like religion) . Not having a pop at you aghast merly replying to a question thats been posed a few times in this thread |
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Post by aghast on Dec 18, 2015 12:52:46 GMT
I said he linked paedophilia and homoexuality as two of the three things which would bring about the end of the world - i.e. linked by being evil, not linked by being the same thing.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 18, 2015 12:52:47 GMT
Well if we're bringing it back on track to Tyson Fury, or at least his comments about gays, he said:
Regardless of whether you think homophobia is acceptable, these comments are without a shadow of a doubt homophobic. Linking homosexuality to paedophilia as two of the three things which will bring about the end of the world makes that quite clear.
So do those of you who are homophobic, and support the right to be so, agree with Tyson Fury's comments?
Or is he wrong to say this crap? First of i'm not homophobic as i have no fear of gays,however i just find it vile and unnatural. Tyson is entitled to those comments and if you read it properly he doesn't link kiddie fiddlers to gays, if i read it in the way many have i would say he was calling women pedos as abortion appears after gay not the other way around, funnily enough everyone has picked up on the word gay and pedo, no one has mentioned abortion, where do i stand on pedos many know my views and they should be chained and handed to the victims family and beaten by anyone for 15mins until death , Abortion agree with abortion in certain circumstances, i don't agree with it as a contraceptive. I never understood why people these days seem to randomly join words together in text, instead of reading what is written in the context it is written, 3 things in his list none connected (ok factually you could say these are connected as pedos can be straight , gay or lesbian) , however that was not the context it was written in. These are his beliefs bought on by his religion, i am against all forms of religion (except for the modern worship at the alter of keep up with the joneses only joking) . I despise organised religion and hate a few religions with a vengeance, one very large religion has changed the age of mary, it's commonly held that mary was young 12-15) , one religions has changed her age to something akin to a couple of years older than the modern age of consent (see why i don't like religion) . Not having a pop at you aghast merly replying to a question thats been posed a few times in this thread You don't have to fear guys to be homophobic. In fact I expect ver, very few homophobes are because they fear gays. Most have a hatred or dislike of homosexuals and going by your posts you appear to be one of those. |
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Post by jaggas on Dec 19, 2015 19:37:48 GMT
As inee said you seem to be very hypocritical yourself in your rush to defend so called minorities, never did hear your view of muslims who actually hang and stone to death homosexuals and Islams view of homosexuality.
Didn`t see you condemn the abuse Tyson Fury received daily on twitter for being part of the travelling community long before he became heavyweight champ.
Sticking up for and being offended on behalf of gays and muslims is the in thing.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 19, 2015 19:44:23 GMT
As inee said you seem to be very hypocritical yourself in your rush to defend so called minorities, never did hear your view of muslims who actually hang and stone to death homosexuals and Islams view of homosexuality. Didn`t see you condemn the abuse Tyson Fury received daily on twitter for being part of the travelling community long before he became heavyweight champ. Sticking up for and being offended on behalf of gays and muslims is the in thing. Well I can assure you that me sticking up for games is nothing to do with "being an in thing". I haven't even criticised Tyson Fury as such, just mentioning what I had read on him and asking for general opinions on the bloke as didn't know much about him. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 19, 2015 20:33:37 GMT
As inee said you seem to be very hypocritical yourself in your rush to defend so called minorities, never did hear your view of muslims who actually hang and stone to death homosexuals and Islams view of homosexuality. Didn`t see you condemn the abuse Tyson Fury received daily on twitter for being part of the travelling community long before he became heavyweight champ. Sticking up for and being offended on behalf of gays and muslims is the in thing. Why do you keep bringing every argument around to an anti Islamic one, like all other religions are squeaky clean? Most if not all religions appear to condone some questionable stuff and have a lot of blood on their hands. Extremism is just that, extreme, not mainstream. Fundamental Christianity is almost as bad. They hate the gays too, so you'd think they'd all get on. All bad things done in the name of all and any religions are just that. Bad. |
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Post by aghast on Dec 19, 2015 21:07:15 GMT
I had a bit of a rant in a post just now Hugo but deleted it because it's pointless and you'll never convert these people to any sense of acceptance that there is right and wrong in all areas of the world.
Anyway I agree with you.
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