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Post by chippenhamgas on Jan 21, 2016 10:54:16 GMT
If can raise enough to be equal partners in uwe and it is built to the full specification with an option to expand later if necessary i think that would be a positive outcome. We wouldn't be able to be kicked out and would be able to share in the non football related income streams. I actually think this is the most likely outcome.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 21, 2016 11:08:51 GMT
I voted in favour of UWE simply because the club, via the new owners, would own it. No level of rent would be sustainable, so it is a poorly put question. That's not what the poll is asking!! It should be reworded to Own Mem. Rent UWE. Coventry City owned Highfield Rd, sold it and became tenants at Ricoh. That hasn't been a happy story has it?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 21, 2016 11:16:18 GMT
I voted in favour of UWE simply because the club, via the new owners, would own it. No level of rent would be sustainable, so it is a poorly put question. So if a syndicate decided to build to UWE without any input from Rovers and offered to rent the ground to us, you would be happy to stay at the mem then ? I guess it mostly depends on the terms of the deal, but if they want to make a healthy return on their investment then someone will be losing out. Do you own your own home? If so, why don't you just leave that home and rent a bigger house? Coz it's a sh** idea. Otherwise you would have done it, right?
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Post by lpgas on Jan 21, 2016 11:20:26 GMT
We don't have the money to refurbish the Mem, the advantage of renting is that you know your out lay each year
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Post by inee on Jan 21, 2016 11:30:50 GMT
Would rather stay as we are than rent anywhere, so mem for me
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 21, 2016 11:38:10 GMT
So if a syndicate decided to build to UWE without any input from Rovers and offered to rent the ground to us, you would be happy to stay at the mem then ? I guess it mostly depends on the terms of the deal, but if they want to make a healthy return on their investment then someone will be losing out. Do you own your own home? If so, why don't you just leave that home and rent a bigger house? Coz it's a sh** idea. Otherwise you would have done it, right? But if your house is about to fall down and needs a bucket load of money just to make it habitable, you would move out into something else better....
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Post by oldtoteender on Jan 21, 2016 11:38:46 GMT
As already quoted on here don't forget the past, we used to own Eastville and sold it and then rented it and we all know what happened there, whose to say it would not happen again i for one would rather stay put at least we would have more control over our future and i believe we could move forward, Bournemouth, Blackpool, Yeovil, Brentford,Burton to name a few have all played or are currently playing at a higher level than we have for sometime, it is how they are managed that makes a difference. UTG
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 21, 2016 11:48:51 GMT
I guess it mostly depends on the terms of the deal, but if they want to make a healthy return on their investment then someone will be losing out. Do you own your own home? If so, why don't you just leave that home and rent a bigger house? Coz it's a sh** idea. Otherwise you would have done it, right? But if your house is about to fall down and needs a bucket load of money just to make it habitable, you would move out into something else better.... That would depend on a) was I the one who let it get so dilapidated? b) do I have the money to cover the debt I ran up? c) could I budget my income/expenditure better than I have managed since I bought the house?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 21, 2016 11:59:50 GMT
But if your house is about to fall down and needs a bucket load of money just to make it habitable, you would move out into something else better.... That would depend on a) was I the one who let it get so dilapidated? b) do I have the money to cover the debt I ran up? c) could I budget my income/expenditure better than I have managed since I bought the house? But if the house has fallen down you still need some place to live... regardless how it got to that state
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Post by pirate49 on Jan 21, 2016 12:01:09 GMT
Own your own house or rent and be at the whim of a landlord?! Hmmmm.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 21, 2016 12:03:52 GMT
To answer the question surely you need to know who will own the UWE, what rent they intend charging, the period the rental will be fixed and also whether the club would benefit from any of the new staduim income streams.
If it's Gasincider's consortium who apparently intend revesting the income back into the club it sounds perfect, alternatively if it's a Coventry City scenerio it sounds a no go?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 21, 2016 12:05:15 GMT
Own your own house or rent and be at the whim of a landlord?! Hmmmm. Even if you live in a tent on the house site ?
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 21, 2016 12:06:02 GMT
We really aren't learning the lessons from our history. It would be interesting to know the age split of voters as I am sure that those of us that experienced the very dark days at Eastville, turfed out without a home would want to hang on to the Mem as an asset, rather than jump back as someone else's tenants.
Sell Mem , Own UWE stadium (or at least a majority/ controlling share) is the only viable way forward, if we are to move. Look at Coventry's difficulties at the RICOH.
We'll see whether a mystery consortium comes forward, but I'll admit to a shift in my own opinion toward step-wise development of the Mem and looking at exploiting more off-field commercial opportunities as we develop.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 21, 2016 12:09:22 GMT
That would depend on a) was I the one who let it get so dilapidated? b) do I have the money to cover the debt I ran up? c) could I budget my income/expenditure better than I have managed since I bought the house? But if the house has fallen down you still need some place to live... regardless how it got to that state The Mem isn't great but it's perfectly serviceable and could be improved with relatively low outlay providing we lived within our means.
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 21, 2016 12:13:10 GMT
That would depend on a) was I the one who let it get so dilapidated? b) do I have the money to cover the debt I ran up? c) could I budget my income/expenditure better than I have managed since I bought the house? But if the house has fallen down you still need some place to live... regardless how it got to that state But the house hasn't fallen down and is not going to for many years to come. It also has lots of room for expansion and plans that were accepted for development, even if these need to be scaled down and resubmitted.
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Post by asomodai on Jan 21, 2016 12:16:44 GMT
Out of interest, why did we never pursue turning the Mem 90 degrees into the carpark? I wasnt around to hear the outcome on that!
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Post by baggins on Jan 21, 2016 12:19:18 GMT
But if the house has fallen down you still need some place to live... regardless how it got to that state The Mem isn't great but it's perfectly serviceable and could be improved with relatively low outlay providing we lived within our means. Do we have planning permission to do any improvements at the Mem?
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Post by curlywurly on Jan 21, 2016 12:20:34 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if Nick can pull a major rabbit out of the hat, come along with some ethical backers with serious money to invest in (new) ground and team. But I don't buy the line that we will die if we don't move out of the Mem. In my opinion we are not looking hard enough at ways to exploit the money making potential of the site - particularly as our neighbours (TRASH, Carstairs, etc.) have said how valued the site is to the community.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 21, 2016 12:27:55 GMT
But if the house has fallen down you still need some place to live... regardless how it got to that state But the house hasn't fallen down and is not going to for many years to come. It also has lots of room for expansion and plans that were accepted for development, even if these need to be scaled down and resubmitted. you starting to sound like Paul Buckle.....
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 21, 2016 12:29:20 GMT
The Mem isn't great but it's perfectly serviceable and could be improved with relatively low outlay providing we lived within our means. Do we have planning permission to do any improvements at the Mem? It's as achievable as winning this court case.
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