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Post by northridinggas on Jan 29, 2016 17:52:12 GMT
Well I confidently predict that Fallon will be an Andy Rammel-like fans favourite within a few games and will be a key signing for us getting automatic promotion
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Post by cagastrophy on Jan 29, 2016 19:06:15 GMT
Wtf, missed out on Riordan and signed a has-been international instead
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I actually feel sorry for York
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Post by dinsdale on Jan 29, 2016 20:11:34 GMT
Happy for once to say I trust DC's judgement. Thank f**k for that I can spend a lot less time worrying.
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Post by oldtoteender on Jan 29, 2016 21:52:58 GMT
To quote Life of Brian " Fwee Worwy" !
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Post by buckrippers on Jan 29, 2016 23:51:28 GMT
Ellis is injured. Been back at the Mem for a few days this week and now headed back to Hartlepool but not likely to play, so we wouldn't be getting any benefit from him at the moment anyway, and he won't be playing the first team games he wants. Shame, but these things happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 6:04:49 GMT
Ellis may have the "potential" (as we keep being reminded) and the fact that he is around the Wales team may underline that. However his problem is still attitudinal and the time is fast approaching when he will have to turn that potential into fact. I am not convinced we can afford to wait that much longer. There are others in the club whose attitude is much better and they will be pressing for the first team. DC seems to put a high level of focus on attitude. Fallon seems to have a good attitude to joining the club even though he is overcoming injury. I like Ellis and hope that he does get time to prove the potential you think he has to be a consistent member of the team. But he better start showing it soon for his own sake. Where do you get the oft quoted statement that Ellis has an attitude? To but in, Ellis went to an 82 game (either a bad attitude or stupid), then when scoring made the point back at the fans (bad attitude) and basically felt no remorse. I know he's young but that episode soured me to him, with all the accompanying arguments of whether he could have, should have etc. Ellis's mistake was beefing up to become cf. remember him tearing a new one for l2 defences in an awful rovers team? He was far better as a nippy winger.
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 30, 2016 8:54:40 GMT
As regards Derek Riordan it will be interesting to see if he is played as an out and out striker or wide left and how he does for York. Sometimes feel he wasn't given a fair chance here by being played by McGhee out of position. I always remember so many of his goals seemed to be from inside the box for Hibs yet McGhee played him as a left winger....there again Mc Ghee played that useless lump Virgo as a centre forward!!! Riordon will probably fail again but be interesting to see as long as he doesn't score past us.[think we still have to play them)
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 30, 2016 9:32:10 GMT
As regards Derek Riordan it will be interesting to see if he is played as an out and out striker or wide left and how he does for York. Sometimes feel he wasn't given a fair chance here by being played by McGhee out of position. I always remember so many of his goals seemed to be from inside the box for Hibs yet McGhee played him as a left winger....there again Mc Ghee played that useless lump Virgo as a centre forward!!! Riordon will probably fail again but be interesting to see as long as he doesn't score past us.[think we still have to play them) He was useless. Apparently he chose to play wide left. He's also a well known asshole up in Scotland. We do still have to play them. Our last away game of the season.
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Post by Staffordshire Gas on Jan 30, 2016 11:37:11 GMT
Useless? He wasn't that good! Worst Iv'e ever seen in a Rover's shirt in fifty years.Hardly moved and sometimes missed the ball completely.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 14:31:41 GMT
a few points from your post.Lots of people,many much older than Ellis say things on the social media which they regret in later life,if that is how you judge him,then you as a Christian are not being very Christian towards a young man just starting out in life. Another point is that in August DC rtejected an offer from a first division club for Ellis. Just because he doesn't do a Sinclair and race around the pitch after the ball does not mean he has a poor attitude,perhaps you are confusing this with playing to orders.If he has a poor attitude as you accuse heaven only knows how many goals he would have scored last season if he had the attitude you want him to have. One of the laziest players I ever saw was probably one of this countries best post war wingers,ie Matthews.He also wasn't a Sinclair,just a Matthews as Ellis is just a Harrison
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 30, 2016 15:44:14 GMT
a few points from your post.Lots of people,many much older than Ellis say things on the social media which they regret in later life,if that is how you judge him,then you as a Christian are not being very Christian towards a young man just starting out in life. Another point is that in August DC rtejected an offer from a first division club for Ellis. Just because he doesn't do a Sinclair and race around the pitch after the ball does not mean he has a poor attitude,perhaps you are confusing this with playing to orders.If he has a poor attitude as you accuse heaven only knows how many goals he would have scored last season if he had the attitude you want him to have. One of the laziest players I ever saw was probably one of this countries best post war wingers,ie Matthews.He also wasn't a Sinclair,just a Matthews as Ellis is just a Harrison [b True regarding the effort etc if that's what the manager wants. Doubt he wants that though as Taylor and Gaffney chase and put effort in and they start ahead of him. Ellis might not have the fitness to add that to his game. Agree different players have different skills, different strengths and weaknesses. When Ellis isn't scoring, he does not offer as much as the other strikers to the team.
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Post by markczgas on Jan 30, 2016 17:22:55 GMT
a few points from your post.Lots of people,many much older than Ellis say things on the social media which they regret in later life,if that is how you judge him,then you as a Christian are not being very Christian towards a young man just starting out in life. Another point is that in August DC rtejected an offer from a first division club for Ellis.Just because he doesn't do a Sinclair and race around the pitch after the ball does not mean he has a poor attitude,perhaps you are confusing this with playing to orders.If he has a poor attitude as you accuse heaven only knows how many goals he would have scored last season if he had the attitude you want him to have. One of the laziest players I ever saw was probably one of this countries best post war wingers,ie Matthews.He also wasn't a Sinclair,just a Matthews as Ellis is just a Harrison Do you know why John Ward decided to give Ellis a 3 -year contract ?
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Post by bluegas on Jan 30, 2016 17:32:44 GMT
Why does "Rory Fallon signed" segue into "Let's bash Ellis".......
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 30, 2016 18:11:05 GMT
Why does "Rory Fallon signed" segue into "Let's bash Ellis"....... It's a 6 degrees of separation thing. Every thread can lead to us slagging off a player or the board within 6 posts* regardless of how positive the OP intentions were. *Most normally take less.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 30, 2016 18:47:38 GMT
a few points from your post.Lots of people,many much older than Ellis say things on the social media which they regret in later life,if that is how you judge him,then you as a Christian are not being very Christian towards a young man just starting out in life. Another point is that in August DC rtejected an offer from a first division club for Ellis. Just because he doesn't do a Sinclair and race around the pitch after the ball does not mean he has a poor attitude,perhaps you are confusing this with playing to orders.If he has a poor attitude as you accuse heaven only knows how many goals he would have scored last season if he had the attitude you want him to have. One of the laziest players I ever saw was probably one of this countries best post war wingers,ie Matthews.He also wasn't a Sinclair,just a Matthews as Ellis is just a Harrison Problem is we're not playing football in the 50's look at how much effort the likes of Giggs out into their game plus Harrison is a striker not a winger in any event. Harrison really should be tearing this division up this season instead of having fans querying is attitude, the fact he had 8 clubs apparently chasing his loan signing and the only two Div 2 teams interested in him were relegation threatened Newport & Hartlepool suggests the footballing world agrees with most of us, in that he's not good enough for a promotion chasing Div 2 side.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 30, 2016 18:51:18 GMT
a few points from your post.Lots of people,many much older than Ellis say things on the social media which they regret in later life,if that is how you judge him,then you as a Christian are not being very Christian towards a young man just starting out in life. Another point is that in August DC rtejected an offer from a first division club for Ellis. Just because he doesn't do a Sinclair and race around the pitch after the ball does not mean he has a poor attitude,perhaps you are confusing this with playing to orders.If he has a poor attitude as you accuse heaven only knows how many goals he would have scored last season if he had the attitude you want him to have. One of the laziest players I ever saw was probably one of this countries best post war wingers,ie Matthews.He also wasn't a Sinclair,just a Matthews as Ellis is just a Harrison Problem is we're not playing football in the 50's look at how much effort the likes of Giggs out into their game plus Harrison is a striker not a winger in any event. Harrison really should be tearing this division up this season instead of having fans querying is attitude, the fact he had 8 clubs apparently chasing his loan signing and the only two Div 2 teams interested in him were relegation threatened Newport & Hartlepool suggests the footballing world agrees with most of us, in that he's not good enough for a promotion chasing Div 2 side. We have no idea that other div 2 clubs were not in for him. If teams in the top 14 or 15 were in for him there would be no sense in us letting him go to them as they are potentially in competition with us.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 30, 2016 21:19:16 GMT
Problem is we're not playing football in the 50's look at how much effort the likes of Giggs out into their game plus Harrison is a striker not a winger in any event. Harrison really should be tearing this division up this season instead of having fans querying is attitude, the fact he had 8 clubs apparently chasing his loan signing and the only two Div 2 teams interested in him were relegation threatened Newport & Hartlepool suggests the footballing world agrees with most of us, in that he's not good enough for a promotion chasing Div 2 side. We have no idea that other div 2 clubs were not in for him. If teams in the top 14 or 15 were in for him there would be no sense in us letting him go to them as they are potentially in competition with us. How many came in for him when he was listed last year?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 30, 2016 21:59:03 GMT
Problem is we're not playing football in the 50's look at how much effort the likes of Giggs out into their game plus Harrison is a striker not a winger in any event. Harrison really should be tearing this division up this season instead of having fans querying is attitude, the fact he had 8 clubs apparently chasing his loan signing and the only two Div 2 teams interested in him were relegation threatened Newport & Hartlepool suggests the footballing world agrees with most of us, in that he's not good enough for a promotion chasing Div 2 side. We have no idea that other div 2 clubs were not in for him. If teams in the top 14 or 15 were in for him there would be no sense in us letting him go to them as they are potentially in competition with us. Why not, as they are more likely to take points off other top 10 clubs than Hartlepool will do? But what other top 10 club is going to guarantee Harrison a starting place if he's deemed not good enough for our starting 11?
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 31, 2016 0:51:28 GMT
Ellis' record last year is bound to have sparked some interest. 14 goals, having started only 8 league games plus scoring the most vital goal of our season. Why are we so quick to forget about this? There is clearly ability there and I firmly believe he has it in him to forge a long term league career. As for whether we had offers for him at the end of last season, well I have no idea. Maybe he didn't want to leave? He was on the transfer list after our relegation season and I can understand there being little interest then as he had a year to forget on and off the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 5:44:35 GMT
How did Fallon look yesterday?
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