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Post by justin blue on Mar 7, 2016 17:56:28 GMT
Time to move on, Fresh start and all that...Agreed, but not without learning from huge mistakes made in the past. The feeling i hold is that these mistakes should never be allowed to fester again and if we have to stand up and shout a bit louder next time we should do. I hope lessons have been learnt as we move into what appears a brighter future and look forward to more transparency and better communication from our club as a whole. Thanks for the post Brian and please help to put a final end to the "Them and Us" environment that has divided our club. UTG Totally agree with this sentiment, but how do you recognise a huge mistake before it's made...... For example Ray Graydon I thought he would be fantastic Huge mistake. McGhee everyone thought he would be great Huge mistake. JJ O'toole fans begged for him to be signed Huge mistake. Tesco bag kit massive mistake. Letting Matty T loose with the playoff trophy lets not go there.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 7, 2016 18:45:12 GMT
It's true though you can hardly be critical about somebody who's prepared to be FD unless you are prepared to stand yourself I've never been a footballer. Should I stop giving players ratings? Hardly a similar comparison as none of us can really be footballers but any of us can stand as FD, if we really thought we could do a better job? All a fan needs to do is join the SC and submit thier application form, when the next election comes around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 18:48:26 GMT
I've never been a footballer. Should I stop giving players ratings? Hardly a similar comparison as none of us can really be footballers but any of us can stand as FD, if we really thought we could do a better job? All a fan needs to do is join the SC and submit thier application form, when the next election comes around. I think that my local MP is a complete tool but I have no intention of trying to become an MP I will vote against him though.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 7, 2016 19:01:32 GMT
I've never been a footballer. Should I stop giving players ratings? Hardly a similar comparison as none of us can really be footballers but any of us can stand as FD, if we really thought we could do a better job? All a fan needs to do is join the SC and submit thier application form, when the next election comes around. I have a pretty good idea of what I would want from a fans director. I'd like to think I've been around football and my club in particular long enough to understand it. I could easily join the SC and I could easily put myself forward. However I am self aware enough to know I do not have the necessary skills to be a fans director. That does not preclude me from knowing what those skills are and nor does it preclude me from being able to see those skills in others. I believe you are taking a ridiculous stance on this point simply because you don't like either the poster or what they are saying. You absolutely do not have to stand as a Fans director to be able to appreciate their performance in the roll. The only thing standing yourself may give you is a better understanding of actually being in their situation though I would think a good amount of life experience and some empathy would be a reasonable substitute.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 7, 2016 20:18:34 GMT
That's a bit harsh saying I don't like a poster as I'm not going to form an opinion on somebody I've never met plus I was only repeating another posters suggestion anyway. I'm not going to post any more on this thread as it's all a bit meaningless anyway now.
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Post by dinsdale on Mar 7, 2016 20:32:11 GMT
This is so unhelpful - but doesn't surprise me about you. remember I'm the one who doesn't go to games eh ?? It's true though you can hardly be critical about somebody who's prepared to be FD unless you are prepared to stand yourself this post is funny :-). Lets not criticise or praise anything we dont do or are not willing to do. The forum woul be dead inside an hour. can't be fans director as im not in and have no interest in being in BRSC at this time. A reformed supporters club i would happy join and work for. Anyway my view is clear, if you couldn't be arsed to critique the board when you are part of a failing regime it all looks a bit opportunistic when they all leave and a popular new regime is born and you do it then. I stand by that and don't think it a remotely controversial comment. That aside Brian has the skill set to be an excellent director.
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Post by aghast on Mar 7, 2016 21:04:09 GMT
BSS: "What should I do Ken? You're an old hand. I have no voice. Should I speak up now or wait until the court case brings things to a head?"
KM: "My advice is to say nothing and do nothing"
BSS: "How will that help now though?"
KM: "I've no idea Brian, but it works for me."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 21:31:29 GMT
BSS: "What should I do Ken? You're an old hand. I have no voice. Should I speak up now or wait until the court case brings things to a head?" KM: "My advice is to say nothing and do nothing" BSS: "How will that help now though?" KM: "I've no idea Brian, but it works for me."
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 7, 2016 21:33:47 GMT
That's a bit harsh saying I don't like a poster as I'm not going to form an opinion on somebody I've never met plus I was only repeating another posters suggestion anyway. I'm not going to post any more on this thread as it's all a bit meaningless anyway now. I didn't say you didn't like him. I suggested you either didn't like him or what he was saying. I'm struggling to understand how you can say somebody can only have an opinion on a fans director if they put themselves forward to do it themselves. That said, as other have said the old regime is history and however much people question BSS for what he did or didn't do let's not forget it was NH that put him in that position.
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Post by pirate49 on Mar 7, 2016 23:09:11 GMT
BSS: "What should I do Ken? You're an old hand. I have no voice. Should I speak up now or wait until the court case brings things to a head?" KM: "My advice is to say nothing and do nothing" BSS: "How will that help now though?" KM: "I've no idea Brian, but it works for me ....and go for a long walk; that always helps..........."
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Post by gasincider on Mar 8, 2016 9:27:17 GMT
It's true though you can hardly be critical about somebody who's prepared to be FD unless you are prepared to stand yourself Quite. And take the flack which may come with that. You can only act and advise on how you see fit and that maybe completely different to how someone else may do it. Doesn't mean its wrong. But what grates me is the people that do it with little or no experience of board level operation and do not fully appreciate the pressures and responsibility that go along with that. Someone once said to me that it is very easy to make decisions and run someone else's business from a distance, its very different when its your money or directly responsible. I find a lot of that here. Actually I was a director of a financial services business for some years. I also offered to help out at the Rovers some years ago, but was politely declined as there was no vacancy.
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