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Post by inee on Jun 27, 2016 13:06:00 GMT
Claiming benefits no doubt. Ah.....No. They've just resigned their positions within the Labour Party. They are still MP's. wot Massive Pricks  |
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Post by inee on Jun 27, 2016 13:08:29 GMT
Mentioned this in my last post,still surprised how labour do not respect the leader voted for by their party members, i have a begrudging respect for corbyn at the mo as he is refusing to budge fair play |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 13:10:49 GMT
Ah.....No. They've just resigned their positions within the Labour Party. They are still MP's. So still claiming 2nd homes, expenses, pensions. Gotta love this Country. Well, what we are seeing could just be a complete re-alignment of politics in the UK. The Labour Party has been completely taken over by Militant/Momentum. Will the Labour Party now split? Will a new Party be formed? What happens to UKIP and their four million votes? Their reason for existing has now gone, so where will their votes end up? The Tory Party is split, but I don't think it's as bad as the Labour Party. If the Tories were to elect a new leader quickly, and announced a snap General Election, would Labour be in any position to offer a credible alternative? I think not....then again, has the public lost all faith in the Tories? The public have given the proverbial middle finger to ALL the political parties, both Domestic and EU. Someone, somewhere has to realise this and come up with a credible alternative to what we have/had. |
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Post by inee on Jun 27, 2016 13:11:50 GMT
Problem is although some of this has happened how much is true and how much is bandwagon jumping, and how much have these incidents increased(i do not condone the attacks). the bit that galls me are the remain idiots who still say all racist voted leave, when the vast majority would have voted remain |
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Post by inee on Jun 27, 2016 13:15:01 GMT
So still claiming 2nd homes, expenses, pensions. Gotta love this Country. Well, what we are seeing could just be a complete re-alignment of politics in the UK. The Labour Party has been completely taken over by Militant/Momentum. Will the Labour Party now split? Will a new Party be formed? What happens to UKIP and their four million votes? Their reason for existing has now gone, so where will their votes end up? The Tory Party is split, but I don't think it's as bad as the Labour Party. If the Tories were to elect a new leader quickly, and announced a snap General Election, would Labour be in any position to offer a credible alternative? I think not....then again, has the public lost all faith in the Tories? The public have given the proverbial middle finger to ALL the political parties, both Domestic and EU. Someone, somewhere has to realise this and come up with a credible alternative to what we have/had. I think if a snap election was called today the tories would be out ,the reason i say this is because the face of leave was borris, so most would vote for labour as an up you borris, just my opinion. Ukip is an interesting one, at the latest they shoould dissolve after the exit is complete |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 13:16:59 GMT
Mentioned this in my last post,still surprised how labour do not respect the leader voted for by their party members, i have a begrudging respect for corbyn at the mo as he is refusing to budge fair play Got to say I have lost all respect for Corbyn. He's a man who voted against every EU measure in the HoP. His whole political career he has been against the EU, yet when his Union Puppermasters told him to support Remain, he did. Yet he didn't campaign to Remain. He used the whole referendum as a campaign against the Tory Government, instead of what he should have felt was best for the country. He used what was a vital referendum as a tool in an attempt to improve his own parties election chances......and the fact that many of the 'typical Labour supporters' voted to Leave was a clear indication that he had failed. He even claimed that the Leave vote was a protest vote against austerity and the Tory Government! How far removed from reality can the man get? |
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Post by inee on Jun 27, 2016 13:28:00 GMT
Mentioned this in my last post,still surprised how labour do not respect the leader voted for by their party members, i have a begrudging respect for corbyn at the mo as he is refusing to budge fair play Got to say I have lost all respect for Corbyn. He's a man who voted against every EU measure in the HoP. His whole political career he has been against the EU, yet when his Union Puppermasters told him to support Remain, he did. Yet he didn't campaign to Remain. He used the whole referendum as a campaign against the Tory Government, instead of what he should have felt was best for the country. He used what was a vital referendum as a tool in an attempt to improve his own parties election chances......and the fact that many of the 'typical Labour supporters' voted to Leave was a clear indication that he had failed. He even claimed that the Leave vote was a protest vote against austerity and the Tory Government! How far removed from reality can the man get? Maybe i came across wrong ,was trying to point out how detached labour are from the democracy of their members elected leader, the fact he is sticking it out ,unlike cameron who has had one of the biggest flounces in history, takes a strong will was i being sarcastic with my respect , well lets just say i will respect him everyday he stays as leader as labour now have the old style belligerent leader or the past, who himself is out of touch with his own voters |
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Post by peterparker on Jun 27, 2016 13:38:52 GMT
Mentioned this in my last post,still surprised how labour do not respect the leader voted for by their party members, i have a begrudging respect for corbyn at the mo as he is refusing to budge fair play Because they have varying ideologies. Corbyn is a complete lefty unwilling to budge right a bit. And the others are more central probably unwilling to bump left a bit. Corbyn may have the support of the membership although that would be interesting any changes if they were polled right now. If Labour dont fracture into two parties i would be suprised unless a real legitimate middle ground candidate is found. |
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Post by jaggas on Jun 27, 2016 19:03:31 GMT
The Labour party are finished as a credible opposition.At the last General Election their traditional voters deserted them and voted UKIP.In last weeks referendum traditional Labour voters ignored the middle class lefties and voted Leave.
The next General Election will be interesting.I don`t think UKIP are going anywhere and can see them picking up many Labour seats and a few Tory seats at the next election.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 28, 2016 6:58:32 GMT
The Labour party are finished as a credible opposition.At the last General Election their traditional voters deserted them and voted UKIP.In last weeks referendum traditional Labour voters ignored the middle class lefties and voted Leave. The next General Election will be interesting.I don`t think UKIP are going anywhere and can see them picking up many Labour seats and a few Tory seats at the next election. Except Labour are going to be the first choice for reaction against this tory made clusterfuck, in most locations. That's just the reality of a fptp system. All Labour have to do is look like a vaguely electable party (not that difficult really, but obviously Labour manage to make it look difficult) and they will get the majority of protest votes, especially as no other party looks like doing the job. Had the libdems not shot themselves in the foot by rolling over for the tories last time, they would be the choice, but no one trusts them now. |
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Post by peterparker on Jun 28, 2016 7:29:14 GMT
The Labour party are finished as a credible opposition.At the last General Election their traditional voters deserted them and voted UKIP.In last weeks referendum traditional Labour voters ignored the middle class lefties and voted Leave. The next General Election will be interesting.I don`t think UKIP are going anywhere and can see them picking up many Labour seats and a few Tory seats at the next election. Except Labour are going to be the first choice for reaction against this tory made clusterfuck, in most locations. That's just the reality of a fptp system. All Labour have to do is look like a vaguely electable party (not that difficult really, but obviously Labour manage to make it look difficult) and they will get the majority of protest votes, especially as no other party looks like doing the job. Had the libdems not shot themselves in the foot by rolling over for the tories last time, they would be the choice, but no one trusts them now. The question is what will the Labour party be/consist of going forward?
If Corbyn doesn't resign, stands in a leadership contest and wins because of the membership, than I would see many Labour MPs leaving and forming a new party.
For Labour it is best Corbyn stands down and perhaps a new leader should recognise the membership support (if he still has it) and put him on the front bench
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Post by baggins on Jun 28, 2016 11:06:27 GMT
Mentioned this in my last post,still surprised how labour do not respect the leader voted for by their party members, i have a begrudging respect for corbyn at the mo as he is refusing to budge fair play Got to say I have lost all respect for Corbyn. He's a man who voted against every EU measure in the HoP. His whole political career he has been against the EU, yet when his Union Puppermasters told him to support Remain, he did. Yet he didn't campaign to Remain. He used the whole referendum as a campaign against the Tory Government, instead of what he should have felt was best for the country. He used what was a vital referendum as a tool in an attempt to improve his own parties election chances......and the fact that many of the 'typical Labour supporters' voted to Leave was a clear indication that he had failed. He even claimed that the Leave vote was a protest vote against austerity and the Tory Government! How far removed from reality can the man get? See, told you the FTSE would recover. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 11:20:50 GMT
 There was never any doubt Bags.
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Post by baggins on Jun 28, 2016 11:29:44 GMT
There was never any doubt Bags. Just as well I bought. Me? Capitalist? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 11:50:24 GMT
There was never any doubt Bags. Just as well I bought. Me? Capitalist? Buy low, sell high. The old rule still applies ! |
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Post by baggins on Jun 28, 2016 11:56:50 GMT
Just as well I bought. Me? Capitalist? Buy low, sell high. The old rule still applies ! I don't sell. In it for the long run. And a bit of fun. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 12:02:16 GMT
Buy low, sell high. The old rule still applies ! I don't sell. In it for the long run. And a bit of fun. Same here. I've got my 5x10p Rovers Shares.................they're sure to fund my retirement. |
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Post by baggins on Jun 28, 2016 12:08:36 GMT
I don't sell. In it for the long run. And a bit of fun. Same here. I've got my 5x10p Rovers Shares.................they're sure to fund my retirement. Oh bound to. |
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Post by inee on Jun 28, 2016 12:33:50 GMT
I don't sell. In it for the long run. And a bit of fun. Same here. I've got my 5x10p Rovers Shares.................they're sure to fund my retirement. nah they funded geoffry's |
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Post by baggins on Jun 28, 2016 12:41:36 GMT
Same here. I've got my 5x10p Rovers Shares.................they're sure to fund my retirement. nah they funded geoffry's You say Geofrey, I think Rainbow (and I don't mean the Band). |
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There was never any doubt Bags.