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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 18:52:32 GMT
To be honest it is not good to watch your team totally outclassed but that is exactly what we saw today. The worrying thing for me is that we kept the same style of play today as we have played the last two seasons- we don't mark at the back, we don't pass forward other than a big hoof from two centre halves who for two different reasons were out of their depth and first half we had Ollie Clarke and Sinclair in the middle of midfield and both are of League 1 ability at the best. Second half was a slight improvement but for me we should be building up for the first game and that means playing players together who are likely to start so they get an understanding. Sorry DC but you can't allow a good team to have possession at the back and your defence allow their players to move away from them and be left totally unmarked. The one thing it proved for me today is that we are at least three players short of quality even if everybody is fit and also it will only take a couple of injuries to defenders and we will be totally exposed by any of the Top 10 in league 1. Big mistake retaining all of the playing squad but I hope I am proved totally wrong. theres a big difference between a strong swansea side and any team in league 1 though |
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Post by youmadethatup on Jul 23, 2016 18:54:09 GMT
To be honest it is not good to watch your team totally outclassed but that is exactly what we saw today. The worrying thing for me is that we kept the same style of play today as we have played the last two seasons- we don't mark at the back, we don't pass forward other than a big hoof from two centre halves who for two different reasons were out of their depth and first half we had Ollie Clarke and Sinclair in the middle of midfield and both are of League 1 ability at the best. Second half was a slight improvement but for me we should be building up for the first game and that means playing players together who are likely to start so they get an understanding. Sorry DC but you can't allow a good team to have possession at the back and your defence allow their players to move away from them and be left totally unmarked. The one thing it proved for me today is that we are at least three players short of quality even if everybody is fit and also it will only take a couple of injuries to defenders and we will be totally exposed by any of the Top 10 in league 1. Big mistake retaining all of the playing squad but I hope I am proved totally wrong. Does anybody think there is a correlation between BRFC not playing a first eleven together during preseason final games and the slow starts the team have made over the last two seasons ? |
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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Jul 23, 2016 18:56:02 GMT
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Post by youmadethatup on Jul 23, 2016 19:13:47 GMT
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Post by miamigas on Jul 23, 2016 19:18:24 GMT
Am I right in saying that one of the best pre-seasons we had was under Buckle? UTG!
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 23, 2016 19:29:39 GMT
Big worry injuries to Lockyer Hartley and J Clarke!!!! A L1 start without them makes defence look very frail. Their injuries have not really been commented on!! Any updates? Was told Lockyer has a groin injury so that could take a while to sort out  BTW i enjoyed the game today - the gap was massive between the two teams Both new boys played well and we got a bit better 2nd half I fear for the beard this season, he was found out very quickly today.... can't pass a ball forward..... It's that new, or the same injury?? I know Dc said he was training on Friday and he might make today's game. I was hoping it was just a case of deciding not to risk him and not that the injury flared up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 19:38:56 GMT
After watching the first half today it was totally obvious that Sinclair, Ollie Clarke and Gosling are players who have gone as far as they ever will. Swansea put out a very decent starting eleven today but with a large number of absentees was a long way from being their strongest team.
Having said that their players were light years ahead of ours, as I already knew having seen them several times since my move to Camarthenshire a couple of years ago. An interesting warm up by them with all ten outfield players starting the game involved in a five a side passing game played at breakneck speed. It clearly showed how comfortable every player was on the ball and as soon as the ref set the game in motion the aforementioned three above were like rabbits in the headlights and left chasing shadows.
Due to the weakness of our midfield the defence was exposed time and time again and 8-0 halftime would not have flattered them.
Mildy made a couple of very good reflex stops when one on one, Leadbitter only managed to get forward once, likewise Brown. McChrystal and Kilgour were cruely exposed but battled on and improved as the game went on. Thought Moore looked decent, likewise Bodin, but Taylor was pretty anonymous due mostly to a lack of service.
The halftime introduction of Lawrence, Lines. Mansell,James and Easter improved things considerably, Lawrence proved he is definitely a good footballer and looked much fitter and slimmer than when he arrived last season. They all combined well and I must say James looked an excellent acquisition. Puddy did well in goal with one really decent lowdown stop.
Having said all above, one things for certain we will not find any side in league one within a country mile of Swansea.
As far as I am concerned its not all gloom and doom and we may well find that several of our better footballers are more than capable at League One level.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 23, 2016 19:48:06 GMT
After watching the first half today it was totally obvious that Sinclair, Ollie Clarke and Gosling are players who have gone as far as they ever will. Swansea put out a very decent starting eleven today but with a large number of absentees was a long way from being their strongest team. Having said that their players were light years ahead of ours, as I already knew having seen them several times since my move to Camarthenshire a couple of years ago. An interesting warm up by them with all ten outfield players starting the game involved in a five a side passing game played at breakneck speed. It clearly showed how comfortable every player was on the ball and as soon as the ref set the game in motion the aforementioned three above were like rabbits in the headlights and left chasing shadows. Due to the weakness of our midfield the defence was exposed time and time again and 8-0 halftime would not have flattered them. Mildy made a couple of very good reflex stops when one on one, Leadbitter only managed to get forward once, likewise Brown. McChrystal and Kilgour were cruely exposed but battled on and improved as the game went on. Thought Moore looked decent, likewise Bodin, but Taylor was pretty anonymous due mostly to a lack of service. The halftime introduction of Lawrence, Lines. Mansell,James and Easter improved things considerably, Lawrence proved he is definitely a good footballer and looked much fitter and slimmer than when he arrived last season. They all combined well and I must say James looked an excellent acquisition. Puddy did well in goal with one really decent lowdown stop. Having said all above, one things for certain we will not find any side in league one within a country mile of Swansea. As far as I am concerned its not all gloom and doom and we may well find that several of our better footballers are more than capable at League One level. Didn't go but this seems a good, honest summary. Good to hear James looked good. I think we look strong up front. It's the midfield which concerns me most. I want to see a new CM and new GK. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 19:54:39 GMT
After watching the first half today it was totally obvious that Sinclair, Ollie Clarke and Gosling are players who have gone as far as they ever will. Swansea put out a very decent starting eleven today but with a large number of absentees was a long way from being their strongest team. Having said that their players were light years ahead of ours, as I already knew having seen them several times since my move to Camarthenshire a couple of years ago. An interesting warm up by them with all ten outfield players starting the game involved in a five a side passing game played at breakneck speed. It clearly showed how comfortable every player was on the ball and as soon as the ref set the game in motion the aforementioned three above were like rabbits in the headlights and left chasing shadows. Due to the weakness of our midfield the defence was exposed time and time again and 8-0 halftime would not have flattered them. Mildy made a couple of very good reflex stops when one on one, Leadbitter only managed to get forward once, likewise Brown. McChrystal and Kilgour were cruely exposed but battled on and improved as the game went on. Thought Moore looked decent, likewise Bodin, but Taylor was pretty anonymous due mostly to a lack of service. The halftime introduction of Lawrence, Lines. Mansell,James and Easter improved things considerably, Lawrence proved he is definitely a good footballer and looked much fitter and slimmer than when he arrived last season. They all combined well and I must say James looked an excellent acquisition. Puddy did well in goal with one really decent lowdown stop. Having said all above, one things for certain we will not find any side in league one within a country mile of Swansea. As far as I am concerned its not all gloom and doom and we may well find that several of our better footballers are more than capable at League One level. maybe sinclair just had a poor game? are you aware that swansea play in the premier league? |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 23, 2016 19:58:43 GMT
After watching the first half today it was totally obvious that Sinclair, Ollie Clarke and Gosling are players who have gone as far as they ever will. Swansea put out a very decent starting eleven today but with a large number of absentees was a long way from being their strongest team. Having said that their players were light years ahead of ours, as I already knew having seen them several times since my move to Camarthenshire a couple of years ago. An interesting warm up by them with all ten outfield players starting the game involved in a five a side passing game played at breakneck speed. It clearly showed how comfortable every player was on the ball and as soon as the ref set the game in motion the aforementioned three above were like rabbits in the headlights and left chasing shadows. Due to the weakness of our midfield the defence was exposed time and time again and 8-0 halftime would not have flattered them. Mildy made a couple of very good reflex stops when one on one, Leadbitter only managed to get forward once, likewise Brown. McChrystal and Kilgour were cruely exposed but battled on and improved as the game went on. Thought Moore looked decent, likewise Bodin, but Taylor was pretty anonymous due mostly to a lack of service. The halftime introduction of Lawrence, Lines. Mansell,James and Easter improved things considerably, Lawrence proved he is definitely a good footballer and looked much fitter and slimmer than when he arrived last season. They all combined well and I must say James looked an excellent acquisition. Puddy did well in goal with one really decent lowdown stop. Having said all above, one things for certain we will not find any side in league one within a country mile of Swansea. As far as I am concerned its not all gloom and doom and we may well find that several of our better footballers are more than capable at League One level. maybe sinclair just had a poor game? are you aware that swansea play in the premier league? Think that is unfair on what seems a very balanced post. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 20:00:40 GMT
maybe sinclair just had a poor game? are you aware that swansea play in the premier league? Think that is unfair on what seems a very balanced post. What is unfair about his post? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 20:09:17 GMT
maybe sinclair just had a poor game? are you aware that swansea play in the premier league? Think that is unfair on what seems a very balanced post. how can a poster just write off sinclair gosling and ollie clarke based on 1 game v a strong swansea side in a friendly? is that fair and balanced? we clearly have some defensive injuries as well which im sure didnt help. im not saying the 3 dismissed players will cut it this season but why write them off based on a game against top players?? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 20:12:00 GMT
After watching the first half today it was totally obvious that Sinclair, Ollie Clarke and Gosling are players who have gone as far as they ever will. Swansea put out a very decent starting eleven today but with a large number of absentees was a long way from being their strongest team. Having said that their players were light years ahead of ours, as I already knew having seen them several times since my move to Camarthenshire a couple of years ago. An interesting warm up by them with all ten outfield players starting the game involved in a five a side passing game played at breakneck speed. It clearly showed how comfortable every player was on the ball and as soon as the ref set the game in motion the aforementioned three above were like rabbits in the headlights and left chasing shadows. Due to the weakness of our midfield the defence was exposed time and time again and 8-0 halftime would not have flattered them. Mildy made a couple of very good reflex stops when one on one, Leadbitter only managed to get forward once, likewise Brown. McChrystal and Kilgour were cruely exposed but battled on and improved as the game went on. Thought Moore looked decent, likewise Bodin, but Taylor was pretty anonymous due mostly to a lack of service. The halftime introduction of Lawrence, Lines. Mansell,James and Easter improved things considerably, Lawrence proved he is definitely a good footballer and looked much fitter and slimmer than when he arrived last season. They all combined well and I must say James looked an excellent acquisition. Puddy did well in goal with one really decent lowdown stop. Having said all above, one things for certain we will not find any side in league one within a country mile of Swansea. As far as I am concerned its not all gloom and doom and we may well find that several of our better footballers are more than capable at League One level. maybe sinclair just had a poor game? are you aware that swansea play in the premier league? Sinclair did have a very poor game, ran around a lot like he always does', but on this occasion could not even manage his usual back pass everytime he had the ball. Just remember we were promoted out of the Conference with Sinclair out injured for a longtime, likewise last season when we managed without him for a similar length of time. I went to the trouble of posting what I thought was an honest assessment of what I saw today, your last comment does not warrant a reply! |
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Post by CrispPusher on Jul 23, 2016 20:13:45 GMT
Not bothered about about that result, vast disparity in fitness made the difference the first 18 minutes. Did fairly well in the next 70+ and James looked smart during his stint.
My only concern is the goalkeeping situation I shudder to imagine the reaction had Puddy conceded goals 2, 3 & 4, I'm sure Darrell is more than aware of this however; the closer we get to the start of the season the more likely we are to see a goalkeeper come in on a season long loan IMO. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 20:18:27 GMT
Think that is unfair on what seems a very balanced post. how can a poster just write off sinclair gosling and ollie clarke based on 1 game v a strong swansea side in a friendly? is that fair and balanced? we clearly have some defensive injuries as well which im sure didnt help. im not saying the 3 dismissed players will cut it this season but why write them off based on a game against top players?? Based on what I have seen from the three over the last two seasons and what I saw today confirmed to me that league two/Conference is their level as far as I am concerned. It is as simple as that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 20:27:07 GMT
how can a poster just write off sinclair gosling and ollie clarke based on 1 game v a strong swansea side in a friendly? is that fair and balanced? we clearly have some defensive injuries as well which im sure didnt help. im not saying the 3 dismissed players will cut it this season but why write them off based on a game against top players?? Based on what I have seen from the three over the last two seasons and what I saw today confirmed to me that league two/Conference is their level as far as I am concerned. It is as simple as that. well i thought that was what forums were about? if you make strong opinionated statements dismissing players dont be hurt if somebody responds with strong opinions of there own which just might not agree with your sweeping statements!! |
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 23, 2016 20:31:55 GMT
Our first choice midfield two and central defensive pairing both out meant we would be weak in the centre against full strength Swansea. Sinclair, clarke, McChrystal and gosling will be bench warmers this season. We certainly do need to strengthen in this area but if we are lining up first game with lockyer/hartley and lines/mansell we'll be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 20:37:32 GMT
Based on what I have seen from the three over the last two seasons and what I saw today confirmed to me that league two/Conference is their level as far as I am concerned. It is as simple as that. well i thought that was what forums were about? if you make strong opinionated statements dismissing players dont be hurt if somebody responds with strong opinions of there own which just might not agree with your sweeping statements!! Not hurt in the slightest by your strong opinionated statements, your very welcome to them, but I certainly am not childish enough to make sarcastic comments about posters not knowing what league a team is in! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 20:42:34 GMT
Our first choice midfield two and central defensive pairing both out meant we would be weak in the centre against full strength Swansea. Sinclair, clarke, McChrystal and gosling will be bench warmers this season. We certainly do need to strengthen in this area but if we are lining up first game with lockyer/hartley and lines/mansell we'll be fine. Totally agree with your comments but would point out Swansea were nowhere near" full strength", with six regular players not yet back in training. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 23, 2016 20:44:24 GMT
how can a poster just write off sinclair gosling and ollie clarke based on 1 game v a strong swansea side in a friendly? is that fair and balanced? we clearly have some defensive injuries as well which im sure didnt help. im not saying the 3 dismissed players will cut it this season but why write them off based on a game against top players?? Based on what I have seen from the three over the last two seasons and what I saw today confirmed to me that league two/Conference is their level as far as I am concerned. It is as simple as that. Agree Bideford. Amazes me how people think Gosling is suddenly going to become a better player by stepping up a league. How does that work? |
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