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Post by Rod1883 on Jul 24, 2016 10:29:50 GMT
If Lockyer and Hartley are out - it is a real worry that the defensive unit will be based around McChrystal who certainly struggled at times in L2!!! I would certainly have preferred Parkes to McChrystal who I must add has always given of his best for the club. McChrystal and Lockyer were our best CB partnership last season. Lockyer benefits from the calm leadership and advice of McChrystal, and MM benefits from knowing he can trust the younger man completely. MM struggles when he has to compensate for whoever is alongside him. Parkes for all his potential seemed to unable to play the leader/coordinator role.
Whether MM will be able to replicate his calm leadership style against higher level L1 opposition, I guess we'll soon find out.
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Post by horseshoegas47 on Jul 24, 2016 10:41:55 GMT
I never have a problem with Steve's comments, I always find his posts/match reports balanced and fair but in this instance I couldn't disagree more with some of the views and sentiments. That's the beauty of our game and the purpose of a forum.
I have no problem whatsoever with constructive criticism I want to strive to improve as I am sure everybody does but the bit about Kilgour and Greenslade was IMO unfair and unnecessarily negative.
Onwards and upward.
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 24, 2016 10:47:37 GMT
Newly promoted to league 1 Bristol rovers lose to premier league side Swansea in a meaningless friendly and suddenly our team that have just won back to back promotions are not good enough! Some of you have to get a sense of perspective 2 years ago we were in the conference and pretty much on the verge of non existence. How dare our players have an off day , how dare our defence have injuries , how dare DC offering contracts to all our players to earn promotion. Dread to think what would happen if we get beat by the likes of Sheffield Utd in an actual league match , the forum would be in meltdown , some of the comments on here are Dam ridiculous written by a bunch of melts !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 10:50:42 GMT
I always try to be balanced and also to respect everyone's opinion after all that is the purpose of a forum but I must say that IMO much on this thread is a dramatic overreaction to yesterday's game. It was a preseason friendly against a strong but not full strength Swansea, never the less as pointed out at least one player was a £23m signing. From our side we didn't perform but we have a few injuries that sensibly we don't want to risk at this stage, we fielded a particularly weak starting 11 but as we saw things improved in the second half. I have no doubt a few of the squad will not be regular starters but feel most deserve a chance. If we had a squad of 28 guaranteed starters what sort of team spirit and balance would we have in the squad. DC has said that he wants to bring in 2/3 more quality additions, that takes time, IMO our priorities should be a Goalkeeper, a Centre Half and a strong experienced striker then we are looking in decent shape. If anyone reads my historical posts you will read I always champion our young players development, I take no greater pleasure than seeing players (ideally local) coming through the academy system and eventually making a positive contribution, I think the fans relate to that and the players relate to the club so it saddens me to hear people say the likes of Kilgour and Greenslade should have been released to create funds for more signings, both of these lads have potential they are just 18 and 20 respectively, both have been with the club for 10+ years, they will earn c.£150 week so won't break the bank and the reality is both will spend the majority of the year out on loan (continuing their development) so most if not all of their wages will be covered. It would be a very sad day if our club were to release all promising youth/junior pro's to fund a senior signing and IMO that is not a sustainable model for our club and is not what we should be about. i suppose for lucas lyttle greenslade broom and kilgour this season will be make or break at least at our club,it would be nice to see at least one of them establish himself in the 1st team. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 24, 2016 10:51:21 GMT
DC IMO used his heart rather than his head when he offered new contracts to Ollie Clarke, Gosling and Puddy; Sinclair had a year to run on his original deal, unfortunately he is also not good enough. We all know Mildy is at the end of his career Did he? Or did he use his head in offering all the players renewed contracts because IMO, that offer probably gave the players an extra 5-10% of motivation and quite possibly made the difference in us going up automatically rather than not. I think there's many players in our squad who when the offer of a guaranteed League One contract was made if we went up thought 'brilliant, I want that', because if we hadn't have gone up I feel only Taylor, Leabitter, Lockyer, Brown, Bodin and Lines would have been made offers from a League One club. IMO the rest would have known that if we didn't go up last season, they were going to be with us, another L2 club, or maybe even non-league this season. So while there are some players in our current squad I wouldn't have signed if we had come into L1 with a completely blank squad this season, I think it was a genius move by DC to push us over the line and win promotion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 11:17:43 GMT
I always try to be balanced and also to respect everyone's opinion after all that is the purpose of a forum but I must say that IMO much on this thread is a dramatic overreaction to yesterday's game. It was a preseason friendly against a strong but not full strength Swansea, never the less as pointed out at least one player was a £23m signing. From our side we didn't perform but we have a few injuries that sensibly we don't want to risk at this stage, we fielded a particularly weak starting 11 but as we saw things improved in the second half. I have no doubt a few of the squad will not be regular starters but feel most deserve a chance. If we had a squad of 28 guaranteed starters what sort of team spirit and balance would we have in the squad. DC has said that he wants to bring in 2/3 more quality additions, that takes time, IMO our priorities should be a Goalkeeper, a Centre Half and a strong experienced striker then we are looking in decent shape. If anyone reads my historical posts you will read I always champion our young players development, I take no greater pleasure than seeing players (ideally local) coming through the academy system and eventually making a positive contribution, I think the fans relate to that and the players relate to the club so it saddens me to hear people say the likes of Kilgour and Greenslade should have been released to create funds for more signings, both of these lads have potential they are just 18 and 20 respectively, both have been with the club for 10+ years, they will earn c.£150 week so won't break the bank and the reality is both will spend the majority of the year out on loan (continuing their development) so most if not all of their wages will be covered. It would be a very sad day if our club were to release all promising youth/junior pro's to fund a senior signing and IMO that is not a sustainable model for our club and is not what we should be about. Love to know who was the £23m signing Swansea fielded yesterday, considering their club record fee was £12m for Bony who now plays for Man City. |
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 24, 2016 11:20:21 GMT
I always try to be balanced and also to respect everyone's opinion after all that is the purpose of a forum but I must say that IMO much on this thread is a dramatic overreaction to yesterday's game. It was a preseason friendly against a strong but not full strength Swansea, never the less as pointed out at least one player was a £23m signing. From our side we didn't perform but we have a few injuries that sensibly we don't want to risk at this stage, we fielded a particularly weak starting 11 but as we saw things improved in the second half. I have no doubt a few of the squad will not be regular starters but feel most deserve a chance. If we had a squad of 28 guaranteed starters what sort of team spirit and balance would we have in the squad. DC has said that he wants to bring in 2/3 more quality additions, that takes time, IMO our priorities should be a Goalkeeper, a Centre Half and a strong experienced striker then we are looking in decent shape. If anyone reads my historical posts you will read I always champion our young players development, I take no greater pleasure than seeing players (ideally local) coming through the academy system and eventually making a positive contribution, I think the fans relate to that and the players relate to the club so it saddens me to hear people say the likes of Kilgour and Greenslade should have been released to create funds for more signings, both of these lads have potential they are just 18 and 20 respectively, both have been with the club for 10+ years, they will earn c.£150 week so won't break the bank and the reality is both will spend the majority of the year out on loan (continuing their development) so most if not all of their wages will be covered. It would be a very sad day if our club were to release all promising youth/junior pro's to fund a senior signing and IMO that is not a sustainable model for our club and is not what we should be about. Love to know who was the £23m signing Swansea fielded yesterday, considering their club record fee was £12m for Bony who now plays for Man City. Ooooh love your smarmy comment |
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 24, 2016 12:48:10 GMT
As always, DC is streets ahead of the "critics". "We got as many points for struggling against Swansea as we did when we did better against Villa." <approx.> |
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Post by swansfan on Jul 24, 2016 14:58:41 GMT
Hello all, I'm a Swansea fan and was at the game yesterday and was sat in the stand that's under construction. I've read the comments on this particular thread regarding your players and stadium and have to say that I feel that many are pressing the panic button even before you've kicked a ball in league one. You have a number of very good players that I'm sure will compete adequately in the season ahead and as a Swansea fan we felt that yesterday you could have opened us up on occasions but that final pass went astray.
I've watched Swansea over many years and have been to lots of pre-season games and thought that the score line did not reflect how well many of your players did against a Premier league team.
We were where you are now....always believe, never give up and support your team through thick and thin and with the right management and player philosophy I'm sure that you will progress.
Best wishes and I will be keeping an eye on you this coming season .....good luck !
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Post by pirateman on Jul 24, 2016 17:20:15 GMT
Thanks mate - but please don't say 'always believe'
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 19:05:41 GMT
The difference in standard may suit his game more. Did Lines look like a player from the Champ when he played in the conference? Did Lambert get better as he went up the leagues?Does Gos play international football at a higher standard than league 1/2?Lambert was a good player anyway. He does but only because Gibraltar have f**k all players avd even still he struggles to get in a team full of part timers. Lambert wasn't a prem player whilst with us in div4..... The bloke plays regularly for his national team against the world's top players. What more can he do? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 19:07:43 GMT
Hello all, I'm a Swansea fan and was at the game yesterday and was sat in the stand that's under construction. I've read the comments on this particular thread regarding your players and stadium and have to say that I feel that many are pressing the panic button even before you've kicked a ball in league one. You have a number of very good players that I'm sure will compete adequately in the season ahead and as a Swansea fan we felt that yesterday you could have opened us up on occasions but that final pass went astray. I've watched Swansea over many years and have been to lots of pre-season games and thought that the score line did not reflect how well many of your players did against a Premier league team. We were where you are now....always believe, never give up and support your team through thick and thin and with the right management and player philosophy I'm sure that you will progress. Best wishes and I will be keeping an eye on you this coming season .....good luck ! Cheers Steve. |
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 24, 2016 19:10:53 GMT
Hello all, I'm a Swansea fan and was at the game yesterday and was sat in the stand that's under construction. I've read the comments on this particular thread regarding your players and stadium and have to say that I feel that many are pressing the panic button even before you've kicked a ball in league one. You have a number of very good players that I'm sure will compete adequately in the season ahead and as a Swansea fan we felt that yesterday you could have opened us up on occasions but that final pass went astray. I've watched Swansea over many years and have been to lots of pre-season games and thought that the score line did not reflect how well many of your players did against a Premier league team. We were where you are now....always believe, never give up and support your team through thick and thin and with the right management and player philosophy I'm sure that you will progress. Best wishes and I will be keeping an eye on you this coming season .....good luck ! Cheers Steve. I do look forward to reading your posts g79 ! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 19:15:32 GMT
I do look forward to reading your posts g79 ! Thanks! I'll let you buy me a pint too if you like?! |
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Post by LJG on Jul 24, 2016 19:20:52 GMT
Ey up, I saw Bodin, Leadbitter and Gosling standing pretty near the bar in the clubhouse after the Salisbury game. I could've sworn I saw one of them mouth the words "delicious Corona". Think we might need to get our pitchforks out! Wrong. That was Lines. Exactly! It's Lines egging them on all time. I heard Lines pinned up a six foot Corona poster in the dressing room and now Lockyer wants to call his first born child Cory if it's a boy and Ona if it's a girl. Get 'em out of this club! Rotten to the core(ona)! |
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 24, 2016 19:25:31 GMT
I hope they weren't in club gear!?
Oh no. We ain't got any.
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 24, 2016 19:35:30 GMT
I do look forward to reading your posts g79 ! Thanks! I'll let you buy me a pint too if you like?! Anytime mate, just let me know ! |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 24, 2016 20:09:17 GMT
Lambert was a good player anyway. He does but only because Gibraltar have f**k all players avd even still he struggles to get in a team full of part timers. Lambert wasn't a prem player whilst with us in div4..... The bloke plays regularly for his national team against the world's top players. What more can he do? Lambert did well in div 4. Gosling didng't. He doesn't play regularly though. Considering Gibraltar are full of part timers, he should be first name on the tea sheet. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 24, 2016 20:10:15 GMT
Thanks mate - but please don't say 'always believe' Agreed. "We always believe" is probably the cringiest chant going. |
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