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Post by surreygas on Sept 14, 2016 13:02:31 GMT
Most successful teams have a player who does all the donkey work, breaking down opposition attacks and covering ground in midfield - not known for creativity but equally as important in a balanced midfield. If you put all attacking midfielders the team is unbalanced Against Oxford we were not unbalanced. Are you saying Ollie Clarke is a creative all out attacking midfielder?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 22:23:47 GMT
Ran around again tonight like a dog in the park chasing a stick. Got booked mid way through the first half and that was his night over. He was subbed and we saw a great midfield of Clarke, Lines and Colkett. Ollie Clarke held his position as the holding midfielder and made tackles. Lines drove us on all game and Colkett played like Jack Wilshire nicking the ball and making threaded passes.
I've said their is a position for Sincs on small pitches and bad pitches in battling games. But for both promotion run ins he was injured, we haven't been winning with him in the side and others are affected by his running in their space. He came off at 1-0 and the new midfield of ours hammered Swindon, they couldn't compete with us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 23:16:33 GMT
Ran around again tonight like a dog in the park chasing a stick. Got booked mid way through the first half and that was his night over. He was subbed and we saw a great midfield of Clarke, Lines and Colkett. Ollie Clarke held his position as the holding midfielder and made tackles. Lines drove us on all game and Colkett played like Jack Wilshire nicking the ball and making threaded passes. I've said their is a position for Sincs on small pitches and bad pitches in battling games. But for both promotion run ins he was injured, we haven't been winning with him in the side and others are affected by his running in their space. He came off at 1-0 and the new midfield of ours hammered Swindon, they couldn't compete with us. like that bad pitch at chelsea?? sinclair didnt play well tonight for a change and 5 other players got booked or did you miss that? just to say again we got promoted over the whole season on both promotions and sinclair played a full part in them. if you dont like him thats fine but dont make up stuff about small and bad pitches and not playing his role in promotions because its a bit pinnochio like if you understand what i mean?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 23:42:12 GMT
Ran around again tonight like a dog in the park chasing a stick. Got booked mid way through the first half and that was his night over. He was subbed and we saw a great midfield of Clarke, Lines and Colkett. Ollie Clarke held his position as the holding midfielder and made tackles. Lines drove us on all game and Colkett played like Jack Wilshire nicking the ball and making threaded passes. I've said their is a position for Sincs on small pitches and bad pitches in battling games. But for both promotion run ins he was injured, we haven't been winning with him in the side and others are affected by his running in their space. He came off at 1-0 and the new midfield of ours hammered Swindon, they couldn't compete with us. like that bad pitch at chelsea?? sinclair didnt play well tonight for a change and 5 other players got booked or did you miss that? just to say again we got promoted over the whole season on both promotions and sinclair played a full part in them. if you dont like him thats fine but dont make up stuff about small and bad pitches and not playing his role in promotions because its a bit pinnochio like if you understand what i mean? I never missed those 5 players being booked but Sincs is the one player more than anyone who needs to go to the floor in his game and he couldn't. His off the ball running takes up so much space for others, Ollie is more disciplined and then the likes of Lines, Easter and Colkett can get the ball where Sincs usually is or had taken space. I mention the run ins as it's where we have hit form, in both the seasons I've mentioned we started poorly or average in the league like this season again. He was dropped from the squad and we beat Oxford, Lines and Clarke were very good that day. He comes off at 1-0 today and we win 2-1, a lot of coincides for me. I said the same at Pompey last season, big pitch, footballing side and he was bypassed. He got injured after this and we went on the run and Lines was back in the team www.skysports.com/football/portsmth-vs-bristol-r/teams/341003
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 1:07:53 GMT
like that bad pitch at chelsea?? sinclair didnt play well tonight for a change and 5 other players got booked or did you miss that? just to say again we got promoted over the whole season on both promotions and sinclair played a full part in them. if you dont like him thats fine but dont make up stuff about small and bad pitches and not playing his role in promotions because its a bit pinnochio like if you understand what i mean? I never missed those 5 players being booked but Sincs is the one player more than anyone who needs to go to the floor in his game and he couldn't. His off the ball running takes up so much space for others, Ollie is more disciplined and then the likes of Lines, Easter and Colkett can get the ball where Sincs usually is or had taken space. I mention the run ins as it's where we have hit form, in both the seasons I've mentioned we started poorly or average in the league like this season again. He was dropped from the squad and we beat Oxford, Lines and Clarke were very good that day. He comes off at 1-0 today and we win 2-1, a lot of coincides for me. I said the same at Pompey last season, big pitch, footballing side and he was bypassed. He got injured after this and we went on the run and Lines was back in the team www.skysports.com/football/portsmth-vs-bristol-r/teams/341003what about all the nice big pitches when he played well like chelsea and loads more as pro clubs pitches are mostly pretty big? what about all the other poor performances by our lads at portsmouth? i dont know if sinclair will stay 1st choice this season but hes been great for us in his rovers career so far. ollie clarkes a good lad but hes had plenty of below average games.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 6:36:01 GMT
1973 I have just highlighted I think he plays better in battling games and not so well on big open pitches where he has to chase the ball. I am sure he's played well on bigger pitches but a lot of his man of the matches come at home where he is given them for effort over everything else. People even say now "The Presidents Club man of the match, Stuart Sinclair before it's even announced" I go home and away virtually every week and it's something I've notified over time. We and I have also noticed as fans that DC sides usually start slowly in the league and improve MORE the second half of the season, is this not the case? Now for our two promotion run ins Sincs has been out injured from February and the two games we have won this season he has not been on the pitch when we have gone into win those games. Like I say, I see 90% of all of our games a season, I base my opinion on watching games. Lines struggles with him because Sinclair takes his space, now Boeteng is after a great first start. Colkett will struggle next to him. You look at our winning games and it's when we allow our ball player the movement of the pitch and Ollie Clarke and Mansell are disciplined and allow Lines to do this, look at the results? Sincs has a role for us but it's not the main man in a midfield. Out of interest, the Chelsea pitch is one of the smallest pitches www.openplay.co.uk/blog/premiership-football-pitch-sizes-2014-to-2015
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Post by clockendgas on Sept 21, 2016 7:50:16 GMT
And this weeks scapecoat is................ cant we stop picking on individuel players every game, i guess some on here can play better?
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Post by countygroundhotel on Sept 21, 2016 7:52:31 GMT
Ran around again tonight like a dog in the park chasing a stick. Got booked mid way through the first half and that was his night over. He was subbed and we saw a great midfield of Clarke, Lines and Colkett. Ollie Clarke held his position as the holding midfielder and made tackles. Lines drove us on all game and Colkett played like Jack Wilshire nicking the ball and making threaded passes. I've said their is a position for Sincs on small pitches and bad pitches in battling games. But for both promotion run ins he was injured, we haven't been winning with him in the side and others are affected by his running in their space. He came off at 1-0 and the new midfield of ours hammered Swindon, they couldn't compete with us. like that bad pitch at chelsea?? sinclair didnt play well tonight for a change and 5 other players got booked or did you miss that? just to say again we got promoted over the whole season on both promotions and sinclair played a full part in them. if you dont like him thats fine but dont make up stuff about small and bad pitches and not playing his role in promotions because its a bit pinnochio like if you understand what i mean? How does an injured player 'play a full part' in anything? He contributed in both seasons when he was playing, but the facts are he's yet to play a full season.
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Post by garystash on Sept 21, 2016 8:00:24 GMT
I agree with @roadman in that the team has been in better form without Sincs (I also think this could be coincidence).
However, I believe in DC's ability to get it right more than he gets it wrong. If he chooses to pick SS, then I accept that it's probably the right decision.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 8:06:23 GMT
like that bad pitch at chelsea?? sinclair didnt play well tonight for a change and 5 other players got booked or did you miss that? just to say again we got promoted over the whole season on both promotions and sinclair played a full part in them. if you dont like him thats fine but dont make up stuff about small and bad pitches and not playing his role in promotions because its a bit pinnochio like if you understand what i mean? How does an injured player 'play a full part' in anything? He contributed in both seasons when he was playing, but the facts are he's yet to play a full season. so by your reckoning only the ever presents played a "full part",? silly nit picking by you imo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 8:14:20 GMT
And this weeks scapecoat is................ cant we stop picking on individuel players every game, i guess some on here can play better? What are you on about? We are just debating football and me and 1973 are just doing that. I've said we need him, I've just pointed out he wasn't in our team or missed in our promotion run ins and hasn't been on the the pitch in our two wins this season. I am giving you facts, personally I don't think there is a better player for a real battling game or coming off the bench when we are being over run in midfield than Sincs. If Lines plays well we play well, let him dictate games, Sinclair doesn't let him do this.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 21, 2016 8:19:41 GMT
Here's my 10p worth on the beard.
I like the bloke, he's a gutsy grafting footballer who isn't afraid to get stuck in and we all like watching those players, and every team needs one in their locker. However the higher up the footballing Piramyd you go you need to have other things in your locker as the football is a different class.
Last night, Colkett was a better option than Sincs as we needed and were crying out for that touch of vision and quality. For the first 60 mins he did a good job on keeping Kasim quiet. But he offered no quality going forward, he was also playing further forward than usual at times and he isn't a CAM by a long stretch. It actually caused Taylor and Gaffs further apart and pushed Bodin into no mans land a good few times.
I think it is time for Colkett to start in place of him and if we need a battering ram then we can bring him on. For ones saying that he needs to be dropped I would agree, but not because I don't like him, I just think Colkett gives us a better chance to win games from the start.
There is also nothing wrong in admitting a player has reached a level and can be replaced with a brighter prospect. Not all players have the ability to play through promoted teams like Lambert, Ashley Williams and Lallana.
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Post by grayraydon on Sept 21, 2016 8:25:51 GMT
And this weeks scapecoat is................ cant we stop picking on individuel players every game, i guess some on here can play better? What are you on about? We are just debating football and me and 1973 are just doing that. I've said we need him, I've just pointed out he wasn't in our team or missed in our promotion run ins and hasn't been on the the pitch in our two wins this season. I am giving you facts, personally I don't think there is a better player for a real battling game or coming off the bench when we are being over run in midfield than Sincs. If Lines plays well we play well, let him dictate games, Sinclair doesn't let him do this. But he has started both games that we won and therefore contributed in tiring out stressing the oppo' for the time he was on the pitch, not just physically but mentally as well, which contributes to a large part in why people make mistakes late on in a game, because they are tired both physically and mentally, how do we know that when he's subbed off that the people coming on have got more time and space because of the work he's done, far too simplistic just to say that if we drop him things would be different and we'd automatically win or even give ourselves a better chance of winning.
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Sept 21, 2016 8:33:14 GMT
I love how people look at situations in a certain way to reinforce their pre-existing beliefs.
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Post by markczgas on Sept 21, 2016 8:36:14 GMT
I know it's a team game but if somebody asked me who have been the best 3 or 4 players so far this season then I'd definitely have Sinclair in that group !
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Post by countygroundhotel on Sept 21, 2016 8:43:07 GMT
How does an injured player 'play a full part' in anything? He contributed in both seasons when he was playing, but the facts are he's yet to play a full season. so by your reckoning only the ever presents played a "full part",? silly nit picking by you imo. Not nit picking just stating facts that are uncomfortable for some people like yourself. You don't have to be an ever present but you do need to be fit and available to have any positive effect on squad and game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 8:45:06 GMT
i stand by my original post even though the wording of it wasnt to clever by me. roadman says sinclair only plays well on small and bad pitches,well there are not very many of them in professional football so he must have had a lot of very bad games. his injuries have come from putting a foot or a head in where most wouldnt have and every team needs players like that,. some people raving about colkett should just hold back until hes played more minutes on the pitch as although he looks a fine player its way too early know how good he will be for us or anyone else in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 9:27:32 GMT
Here's my 10p worth on the beard. I like the bloke, he's a gutsy grafting footballer who isn't afraid to get stuck in and we all like watching those players, and every team needs one in their locker. However the higher up the footballing Piramyd you go you need to have other things in your locker as the football is a different class. Last night, Colkett was a better option than Sincs as we needed and were crying out for that touch of vision and quality. For the first 60 mins he did a good job on keeping Kasim quiet. But he offered no quality going forward, he was also playing further forward than usual at times and he isn't a CAM by a long stretch. It actually caused Taylor and Gaffs further apart and pushed Bodin into no mans land a good few times. I think it is time for Colkett to start in place of him and if we need a battering ram then we can bring him on. For ones saying that he needs to be dropped I would agree, but not because I don't like him, I just think Colkett gives us a better chance to win games from the start. There is also nothing wrong in admitting a player has reached a level and can be replaced with a brighter prospect. Not all players have the ability to play through promoted teams like Lambert, Ashley Williams and Lallana. Brilliant post and I like the fact you base your points on what you saw last night as well. The stats and facts don't lie, you badly miss some players when they are injured or not in the team, have we truly ever missed Sincs? We've always gone onto keep winning, again proven but the stats.
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Post by Newton Abbot Gas on Sept 21, 2016 9:55:47 GMT
Really don't get this constant criticism of The Beard by some on here.IMO we now have players in our squad who give everything for the shirt and Sincs is part of that not only on the pitch but also off it.The guy brings a smile to the game with his 100% attitude,all teams need players who lead by example who give everything from the first whistle to the last...........Effort equals success..Fear The Beard....UTG
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Post by slam on Sept 21, 2016 10:08:46 GMT
For me, I have been truly surprised by Sinclair this season. He is one of the Squad members that I didn't think would make the jump from L2 to L1.
Whether it was in the Conference, in L2 or now in L1, you know exactly what you will get from SS. He gives everything he has, and can be almost inspirational in doing that. In my opinion, he epitomises the phrase that we have all used a lot of late....... "we've got our Rovers back!!!!". Like some of you on here, I thought that he would be "played around" at the higher level - but I don't think that has been the case. In my opinion he has adapted his game to meet the standards of the higher level.
I do not think that he looks out of place in L1. And, furthermore, I am so so pleased that you can almost say the same of every other member of the Squad. There is definitely a jump up in standard, but we do not look out of place and, again in my opinion, we are growing into the Division, increasing in confidence and now playing some much better football than we did last year.
Going back to SS, a significant proportion of the new intake of new players could be described as Midfielders and therefore competing with him for a place.
Part of DC's dilemma at the moment is to choose from what I see as an abundance of riches. His approach to a lot of games seems to be to sit back early on (even up to the 60th minute) and allow the opposition to play in front of us - it is almost like he is inviting them to tire themselves out against us. Then, he changes things around - brings on fresh and creative legs and really starts to challenge the opposition towards the end of the game. SS is an integral part of that particular game plan.
That style has worked now for two seasons and is also working whilst we find our feet in this division too. We may change the method later in the season (maybe sooner rather than later) and we might start to be more adventurous with a creative midfield line up. But DC is always going to tinker, and I for one am truly glad that we have SS in the squad to give us those options.
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