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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 17:01:30 GMT
1. They didn't. They followed it all of the time. The debt was reduced in real terms during the good times.
2. So you are saying that if you have done the wrong thing, you should continue doing the wrong thing regardless?
To simplify...... Good times - reduce spending, reduce taxation, reduce debt. Bad times - increase spending, increase taxation, increase debt. Fiscal stimulus. Labour - good times - increased spending, increased taxation, increased debt. Labour - bad times - no fiscal stimulus available. There was nothing left. But if haven't done the first part, you cannot achieve the second part. The theory is so true, my god you have changed However in defence of the progressive middle I would point the learned gentlemen to the economic facts of between 1997 and 2001. Much to the chagrin of the hard left. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 15, 2017 20:13:42 GMT
Kp. I don't get angry. Talking about Roger Berry has no bearing on the recent or present. Kingswood voted with the majority of UK and Bristol is full of lunatics. That cannot be argued. We are an oddity of the SW. Kingswood also voted leave which was obviously at odds with Bristol-the city that gets nothing done. Have a look at the boundary changes and then tell me that kingswood is truly Blue. Apart from Jack Aspinall and Rob " I love a trip abroad free" Hayward" it was traditionally a labour area and even had Tony wedgewood Benn as our MP in the 50's. We both live here, the high streeet is a sh**e hole, full of charity and pawn shops, fast food outlets. Real Tories eh 😂😂. Look at the boundaries. Downend, hanham, Longwell Green, Bitton. Look here en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingswood_(UK_Parliament_constituency)changed eyond recognition. True Kingswood is none of those areas and I think you would find many of those areas take offence to being called Kingswood. |
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Post by countygroundhotel on Jun 15, 2017 20:47:24 GMT
The Tories are so brilliant they have won 1 election outright in 20 years ( 2015). Since then they have lost the leader David Cameron and replaced him with an unelected women. Ms U - turn narrowly won the elections and is now held up by a minority party in Ireland. According to George Osborne she will only last a few months. Lord Heseltine said " Brexit is the cancer of the far right". And John Major said " He will not talk to Northern Irish parties". The Only real gains was by a liberal thinking Gay women in Scotland ( Scottish Tory) who said " She is uncomfortable with the religious views of the DUP". And the party have blamed the spin- doctors and P.R machine as " Monsters". So how can any Tory give advice if they have only experienced 2 years in the last 20 of pure Conservative ?? It would be like a Blackpool fan giving advice on how to survive 'top flight' football. George Osborne summed it up well " What took us 7-10 years to build up and become is likely to fade very soon" . The Tory party is a complete mess after 2 years of pure rule and we will have to go back to 1992 since they won an election. You could ask Maggie Thacther or Tony Blair for advice but not losers or short term replacements. Well there are people on here saying they never experienced pure Labour (apparently it was some other Labour in power) but continue to offer their advice |
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Post by aghast on Jun 15, 2017 20:48:00 GMT
I grew up In Staple Hill in the old Kingswood constituency. Now Staple Hill is part of the Filton and Bradley Stoke constituency , taking in, amongst other things, Almondsbury and Severn Beach. With a Conservative MP.
Very odd.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 21:15:19 GMT
Kp. I don't get angry. Talking about Roger Berry has no bearing on the recent or present. Kingswood voted with the majority of UK and Bristol is full of lunatics. That cannot be argued. We are an oddity of the SW. Kingswood also voted leave which was obviously at odds with Bristol-the city that gets nothing done. Have a look at the boundary changes and then tell me that kingswood is truly Blue. Apart from Jack Aspinall and Rob " I love a trip abroad free" Hayward" it was traditionally a labour area and even had Tony wedgewood Benn as our MP in the 50's. We both live here, the high streeet is a sh**e hole, full of charity and pawn shops, fast food outlets. Real Tories eh 😂😂. Look at the boundaries. Downend, hanham, Longwell Green, Bitton. Look here en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingswood_(UK_Parliament_constituency)changed eyond recognition. True Kingswood is none of those areas and I think you would find many of those areas take offence to being called Kingswood. You are out of touch mate. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 0:52:57 GMT
I wouldnt mind at all if all the tory rovers fans fuc*** off and supported city,ok our average gate would drop from 9,300 to 9,265 but it would be worth it in my view. Oh? Actually now you mention the relationship between supporters and political leanings..I can see the posting trend. You come across as a confused, whingy sort of fellow. Typical of a student or a long term benefit claimer you'd find in a pub. So you have decided in your wisdom to stereotype me as a "student" or a "long term benefit claimer"? Using your format,you must be a deeply bigoted person full of prejudice and of fairly low intelligence. I dont actually think that im just using your system of judging people on a few political posts. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 5:42:26 GMT
Oh? Actually now you mention the relationship between supporters and political leanings..I can see the posting trend. You come across as a confused, whingy sort of fellow. Typical of a student or a long term benefit claimer you'd find in a pub. So you have decided in your wisdom to stereotype me as a "student" or a "long term benefit claimer"? Using your format,you must be a deeply bigoted person full of prejudice and of fairly low intelligence. I dont actually think that im just using your system of judging people on a few political posts. Not at all. I just replied to your stupid post with something equally stupid. Most of the thread is stupid imo, full of the usual cr4p from the usual people.. |
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Post by Marshy on Jun 16, 2017 6:28:04 GMT
So you have decided in your wisdom to stereotype me as a "student" or a "long term benefit claimer"? Using your format,you must be a deeply bigoted person full of prejudice and of fairly low intelligence. I dont actually think that im just using your system of judging people on a few political posts. Not at all. I just replied to your stupid post with something equally stupid. Most of the thread is stupid imo, full of the usual cr4p from the usual people.. From now on I'm not even bothering to read BB's posts because most of them are just a wind up, I'm not sure what he gets out of it but Hay ho each to their own! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 6:32:14 GMT
Not at all. I just replied to your stupid post with something equally stupid. Most of the thread is stupid imo, full of the usual cr4p from the usual people.. From now on I'm not even bothering to read BB's posts because most of them are just a wind up, I'm not sure what he gets out of it but Hay ho each to their own! Credit where it's due. He gets a few bites. It's all about loneliness. These places are good for getting noticed. |
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Post by inee on Jun 16, 2017 9:25:08 GMT
Lets not forget that under labour the number of council houses being built was cut Lets not forget under labour the nhs has also been underfunded Lets not forget under labour coal mines were shutting down at an alarming rate Lets not forget under labour the unions held the government to ransom Lets not forget under labour a deal was done with the libs welsh and scottish nationalists and the ulster unionists Lets not forget under labour bLair destabilized the middle east upon a fabricated whim and then had the fecking neck to get a job there to try and bring peace Lets not forget under labour Brown refused to burn the poppy fields as the farmers would go hungry, never mind the devastation opiated bring to the rest of the world Lets not forget under labour unemployment figure are massaged Lets not forget under labour no attempt has been made to renationalise the industries privatised by the tories.Lets not forget under labour the party was turn't into a mild form of tory party. Lets not forget under labour bLair bought in almost one new law a day I will stop there ,as yes the tories made mistakes but so do labour For me personally the blair years were of no use to me as i just didnt have anyone to vote for only a choice of 2 conservative parties. Now i feel i can vote for and enjoy getting behind a labour party doing what a labour party should do,standing up for ordinary people and their rights. the bLair n brown should be toward the bottom of my post sorry if it confused you ,the one in bold should have been above bLair, the others pertain to labour before and after Maggie. So what in your opinion is a ordinary person and their rights ,don't forget one pm did more damage to an individuals rights and freedoms than any other and he wasn't a tory |
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Post by inee on Jun 16, 2017 9:26:36 GMT
I've never tried Fox hunting? I think I'd like it though. Wot you never been to the towns talk hunting then foxy grannies ,shame on you  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 9:56:24 GMT
For me personally the blair years were of no use to me as i just didnt have anyone to vote for only a choice of 2 conservative parties. Now i feel i can vote for and enjoy getting behind a labour party doing what a labour party should do,standing up for ordinary people and their rights. the bLair n brown should be toward the bottom of my post sorry if it confused you ,the one in bold should have been above bLair, the others pertain to labour before and after Maggie. So what in your opinion is a ordinary person and their rights ,don't forget one pm did more damage to an individuals rights and freedoms than any other and he wasn't a tory Name him? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 10:17:55 GMT
For me personally the blair years were of no use to me as i just didnt have anyone to vote for only a choice of 2 conservative parties. Now i feel i can vote for and enjoy getting behind a labour party doing what a labour party should do,standing up for ordinary people and their rights. the bLair n brown should be toward the bottom of my post sorry if it confused you ,the one in bold should have been above bLair, the others pertain to labour before and after Maggie. So what in your opinion is a ordinary person and their rights ,don't forget one pm did more damage to an individuals rights and freedoms than any other and he wasn't a tory Put simply i believe ordinary people are all people except the very wealthy. I believe a labour party following its founding principles stand up for such people. I believe tony blair and his cronies badly let down the labour movement. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 10:22:18 GMT
What about very wealthy Labour voters?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 10:25:49 GMT
the bLair n brown should be toward the bottom of my post sorry if it confused you ,the one in bold should have been above bLair, the others pertain to labour before and after Maggie. So what in your opinion is a ordinary person and their rights ,don't forget one pm did more damage to an individuals rights and freedoms than any other and he wasn't a tory Put simply i believe ordinary people are all people except the very wealthy. I believe a labour party following its founding principles stand up for such people. I believe tony blair and his cronies badly let down the labour movement.What were the founding principles of the Labour Party? |
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Post by peterparker on Jun 16, 2017 11:06:28 GMT
the bLair n brown should be toward the bottom of my post sorry if it confused you ,the one in bold should have been above bLair, the others pertain to labour before and after Maggie. So what in your opinion is a ordinary person and their rights ,don't forget one pm did more damage to an individuals rights and freedoms than any other and he wasn't a tory Put simply i believe ordinary people are all people except the very wealthy. I believe a labour party following its founding principles stand up for such people. I believe tony blair and his cronies badly let down the labour movement.what about the very wealthy who WORKED their way up from nothing |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 11:06:58 GMT
Put simply i believe ordinary people are all people except the very wealthy. I believe a labour party following its founding principles stand up for such people. I believe tony blair and his cronies badly let down the labour movement.What were the founding principles of the Labour Party? Why not google it? It was founded to bring social and economic equality,it was formed to represent the interests of everybody not just the few. |
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Post by peterparker on Jun 16, 2017 11:12:13 GMT
What were the founding principles of the Labour Party? Why not google it? It was founded to bring social and economic equality,it was formed to represent the interests of everybody not just the few. that's communism isn't it?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 12:08:09 GMT
Hhmmm the interests of everbody eh.......except if you have a joint income over 80k a year, so not quite everybody.
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Post by aghast on Jun 16, 2017 14:10:40 GMT
Now that Charlotte is unemployed, I expect she'll be voting Labour. They all do, apparently.
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