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Post by wiaww on Mar 23, 2021 20:23:38 GMT
Ref is an absolute tosser
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Post by wiaww on Feb 28, 2021 15:29:39 GMT
Everything you need to know about Rod Liddle:
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Post by wiaww on Feb 19, 2021 18:30:02 GMT
Most of what he says is spot on. Most successful teams have shown a bit of a patience with a manager. I’m sure most of the experts on here declared us in a relegation battle in 06/07 (12 points in first 12 games) and in 14/15 (8 points in first 7 games) and demanded the manager be sacked. Both times we stuck by the manager and won promotion. It seems to me constantly sacking a manager achieves little but a lot of money wasted in compensation payments. I'm not sure "most successful teams" tend to go on extended runs of such poor from as Garner and Tisdale did. Garner took 31 points from 34 games - that sacking doesn't need any explaining as that form replicated over a full season only ever leads to relegation. Tisdale will, no doubt, feel slightly more hard done by. 18 points from 19 games. Unfortunately his predecessor's performance meant that time wasn't a luxury he had. But more than 50% of his points were picked up in his first 6 games in charge, and it's disingenuous to suggest we were anything other than absolutely dire in most of the games Tisdale oversaw. If Ollie wants to criticise the board then he can question the appointments, but to put blind faith in a manager miraculously turning things around (Garner) means that sometimes incoming mangers don't get as much time as they'd like (Tisdale). He can't have it both ways.
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Post by wiaww on Feb 5, 2021 12:50:10 GMT
One thing PT is - is articulate 😃 Eloquent? Yes. Articulate? I'm not so sure. He uses lots of words to say very little of substance, imo.
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Post by wiaww on Jan 2, 2021 15:03:38 GMT
Is anyone having trouble trying to buy the match pass Yup. Classic.
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Post by wiaww on Dec 10, 2020 13:21:33 GMT
Hopefully Tranmere win their game. The fewer rounds featuring U21s the better.
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Post by wiaww on Dec 6, 2020 14:39:52 GMT
LJaakkola 7
Ehmer 8 Kilgour 6 Baldwin 7 Leahy 9
Grant 7 Upson 9
Westbrooke 7 Oztumer 8 Nicholson 9
Hanlan 9
Ref 5 Wimbledon 3
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Post by wiaww on Dec 5, 2020 17:14:02 GMT
Is that the football we were hoping to see under Garner? Garner’s team, Garner’s tactics. Nothing to do with Tis ! Not sure if you're being facetious but that's not at all what I was getting at. More that today we played free-floating possession based attacking football which was very pleasing on the eye for most of the game. Exactly what I'd hoped Garner would deliver.
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Post by wiaww on Dec 5, 2020 16:57:16 GMT
Is that the football we were hoping to see under Garner?
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Post by wiaww on Dec 5, 2020 15:53:47 GMT
I missed the penalty, and the less said about their second the better, but that is the best we've looked with the ball in a long, long time. Hanlan will be kicking himself he's not got a first half hattrick. Upson and Leahy both come in for a lot of stick but both have been stand out for me. Lots of promising signs.
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Post by wiaww on Nov 19, 2020 17:04:43 GMT
Sorry if it’s already been covered ( can’t see it anywhere) but to make an appointment that quick surely it was in the pipeline before garner got sacked. Also strange that Starnes said we would be taking our time then few days later we’ve got one in the door. ? There couldn’t have been anyone else even interviewed. ? RE: Starnes' comments - it would have been quite amiss to have publicly said that Rovers already had someone in mind when Garner was sacked, even if privately it was true. It does seem plausible that a "soft" approach to Tisdale may have been made prior to Garner's dismissal to gauge interest. I think the idea that we had Tisdale in the pipeline goes a way to explaining the timing of Garner's dismissal, and the fact that Widdrington was given the reins for this week.
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Post by wiaww on Nov 18, 2020 21:37:22 GMT
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Post by wiaww on Nov 15, 2020 17:09:12 GMT
I was surprised by the announcement last night, not least of all that it came so soon after the game. There’s been no “dreaded vote of confidence” that I can remember, and although we’ve been poor lately, there have been times earlier in the season where I would have been less surprised to see the axe swing than I was last night. It’s clear that BG has struggled since he came in. He had a horrible start and this was compounded by issues outside of football. He seems to be an intelligent man and I think he’s known he’s probably out of his depth for a while now. BG has been very critical of officials and external influences (weather, COVID, etc.) in interviews multiple times this season, but his complaints have never seemed overly convincing and often smacked of desperation. In his heart of hearts I think he realised he wasn’t going to turn things around. Football management appears to be a hugely stressful line of employment. I just wonder that with everything going on if he felt that it’s just not worth the hassle. I wouldn’t blame him if so. I can’t shake the image of him frustratedly offering his resignation following the game. Perhaps naively not expecting it to be accepted. Pure speculation, I know, but I can’t otherwise make sense of the timing of his departure. That's a different view but I don't think so due to the reasons people have stated here. I think this sacking was a very pro active,positive act if you can call a firing that.I'm not happy to see a man lose his job, but from our clubs point of view Wael has acted powerfully and with logic.It very unlike our club before. He gave Ben 30 odd games, and almost a year in charge,a good budget and let him build a completely new squad.He got longer than he would have at any other club.He couldnt make it work and our board acted, and BG can't argue it or make excuses. My hope is that thevstyle/type of football and youth vision that we talked about under BG is a club's core new identity and our next manager will continue with what we were hoping Ben would give us. I think you’re almost certainly correct. I just can’t shake the thought of him offering his resignation post-match purely out of frustration. Perhaps I’m giving him too much credit.
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Post by wiaww on Nov 15, 2020 17:04:37 GMT
It’s quite possible that, as a complete unknown looking to break into management, BG accepted a contract without any option for compensation should he relieved from employment... Lol give it up - there's no way on earth he walked. I’ve never said I think it’s a certainty, I’m just speculating as the timing of the sacking was so unexpected. I don’t know why you so often try to be patronising to people you disagree with. Sad.
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Post by wiaww on Nov 15, 2020 16:48:56 GMT
Why resign when you can hold out, get sacked and compensation? It’s quite possible that, as a complete unknown looking to break into management, BG accepted a contract without any option for compensation should he relieved from employment...
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Post by wiaww on Nov 15, 2020 16:32:04 GMT
The man only moved his family down to Bristol in August and his children started at a new school in September. No way has he resigned. He simply failed to turn all what he did into results and as we all know its a results business and he failed. Therefore he was sacked! I don’t know anything about his life outside of football, and his moving of his family to the area suggest he planned to be here for the long haul. I also don’t think that it makes it impossible. Relatively unlikely, sure, but something nagging in the back of my mind keeps coming back to the possibility that he jumped before (or as) he knew he was going to be pushed.
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Post by wiaww on Nov 15, 2020 16:08:02 GMT
I was surprised by the announcement last night, not least of all that it came so soon after the game. There’s been no “dreaded vote of confidence” that I can remember, and although we’ve been poor lately, there have been times earlier in the season where I would have been less surprised to see the axe swing than I was last night.
It’s clear that BG has struggled since he came in. He had a horrible start and this was compounded by issues outside of football. He seems to be an intelligent man and I think he’s known he’s probably out of his depth for a while now.
BG has been very critical of officials and external influences (weather, COVID, etc.) in interviews multiple times this season, but his complaints have never seemed overly convincing and often smacked of desperation. In his heart of hearts I think he realised he wasn’t going to turn things around.
Football management appears to be a hugely stressful line of employment. I just wonder that with everything going on if he felt that it’s just not worth the hassle. I wouldn’t blame him if so.
I can’t shake the image of him frustratedly offering his resignation following the game. Perhaps naively not expecting it to be accepted.
Pure speculation, I know, but I can’t otherwise make sense of the timing of his departure.
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Post by wiaww on Nov 14, 2020 19:23:23 GMT
There’s a thousand reasons I wouldn’t want Lee Johnson here - but him agreeing to come given his history over there would probably be top of the list. Don’t think we need to worry about that though.
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Post by wiaww on Nov 14, 2020 18:25:19 GMT
Feel for him really, I imagine he's crushed. Really hoped we'd turned a corner when we put together 4 wins and a draw from 5 but we have taken three steps backward since then. That being said, very glad we've acted early because we're being dragged into a relegation battle at the moment. There's time to not only save the season from disaster but actually have a go at the play-offs if we bring the right manager in. Also I think he may have gaslit me into thinking he might have actually been building something long-term that might have been worth a couple of rough season waiting for. Chances are he wouldn't have taken us anywhere but down no matter how long he was given, but it's the hope that kills you.
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Post by wiaww on Nov 14, 2020 18:22:31 GMT
Feel for him really, I imagine he's crushed. Really hoped we'd turned a corner when we put together 4 wins and a draw from 5 but we have taken three steps backward since then. That being said, very glad we've acted early because we're being dragged into a relegation battle at the moment. There's time to not only save the season from disaster but actually have a go at the play-offs if we bring the right manager in.
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