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Post by bluestone on Jan 6, 2018 10:45:29 GMT
We don't need to sale?, where have have you got that theory from?. In my 37 years as a supporter, we have never displayed that vision, and we a still continue to sale any player with talent. I love this club unconditionally, but I'd be lying if I said, I wasn't getting watered off with it being so tin pot. In the past we've needed to sell just to keep the club afloat, we don't need to do that anymore. That's the point I'm trying to make. You can't keep a player against his will. Players wanting to leave to further careers happens at all levels and not exclusive to Rovers. Taylor had a release clause, nothing we could do. Bodin wants to play in the division above and would not sign a new contract, not a lot we could do. Even in the Championship, teams lose their best players to the Prem because the players want to move. We are not unique. Exactly, it seems to me that nearly all clubs except the top 6 and those with wealthy owners who are prepared to chuck their own cash around willy nilly are in similar position relative to where they sit in the football league. What I mean is that it's like a food chain, clubs will more or less buy in players from lower clubs / divisions and sell them to those above them. The ultimate power here is really with the players, they naturally want to progress (player better football / earn more money / become more famous) and no one can force them to play for a certain club. In this situation it is clear BB had decided long ago he wanted to make the step up as he would not sign a new contract so the club had 2 choices, sell now and take some cash or keep him till the end of the season to get what we could out of him in terms of playing / scoring goals. Both options have risk / reward attached, that had to be weighed up by the club. If he stays he could smash in 20 more goals and help us into the play offs, however if he gets badly injured he might miss most of the rest of the season. If we sell we get some dosh to reinvest in the squad, we might find a superb replacement (i.e. another Sercs) and we do well without BB or we might not find a suitable replacement and we falter. I think DC will have weighed all this up and decided to sell and replace now was the better option for us, and that to get that bit of business done early in the window would give him the best chance at finding someone to fill Billy's boots.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 6, 2018 10:22:42 GMT
I think everyone's got a fair idea about this. It's about getting the MAXIMUM value for players when we have to sell them. Taylor's 300 K deal was unfortunate but a Sh*t outcome for us. Now Bodin has gone at the start of the window (??) - for around 400 - 500 K - why no bidding war ?? I would like to think most Rovers fans would think he's worth twice that ! maybe I'm wrong. We all know cash is tight so why didn't the club wait a few weeks to get more ? Hamer admitted 3 clubs had bid/enquired about him - so I'm very surprised he left on the second day of the window, aren't you ? My conclusion, is that DC was going to get pretty much sod all, but now with the quick sale of Bodin , he's going to get some of it - pretty depressing really - same old Rovers ! Getting maximum value out of players doesn't have to mean what you get from a transfer. We paid chuff all for the snake, got 2 promotions out of him and made a profit on his transfer. I'd say we got very good value out of him. Same goes for Bodin. In fact, I'd say we have had value out of most of our players accept Burn, Blisset and Nichols. Excellent point, we should not confuse value with money / cost, it's much much more than that.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 5, 2018 22:20:14 GMT
sainsburys, 82 ers, PNE, come and have what you want, Lockyer 5k Harrison 10k, Sercs 20 k Byron Moore 50 pence. Here we go
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Post by bluestone on Jan 5, 2018 22:04:54 GMT
It is reported that we got a bigger fee for Bodin than we did for Taylor. As it is widely accepted that we got a paltry £300k for Taylor, this would suggest £200k is off the mark imo.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 5, 2018 19:20:26 GMT
So far we look more likely to get a couple of loanies and no permanent decent signings... It’s a shambles really York have done ok though £125,000 player for free £350,000 on another Luke James Luke James who dc wanted being bumped off by a team looking to be relegated to non league I can see Sercs going in the summer Gaffney off which i don’t blame him if he did I even watched the next Jamie Vardy programme last night and saw Brian Dutton if that’s his name there as a scout for us and still no signings 4 players were signed and gone on to be successful for Peterborough and Stevenage with a centre forward scoring 11 goals in 25 games for them all costing peanuts The board will say it’s bad business to buy in January even though everyone in league 1 has pretty much bought players Yeah a real shambles us not buying anyone within 5 days of the window opening, the sky is falling in isn't it. How about we give DC a fair chance at it eh? He didn't do too bad in the last window, we actually spent some dosh for a change and got 2 decent keepers, Sercs and Broadbent. Ok jury's out on Nichols so far but let's not write him off just yet. Previous to that DC has brought in most of our current squad who have managed to get us back to mid table L1. You don't manage to do that by luck, clever recruitment plays a part. Snakey and Bodin both taken from obscurity to become championship players, they cost us next to nothing, we invested in them and they have both made us a profit (even though lower than we would have liked). Personally I back DC to be able to do continue this good work so we can keep on improving. We are bound to get some duds on the way and some players will no doubt reach their level and have to be let go but that's football imo.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 5, 2018 17:04:29 GMT
s I can see us just signing loanee to fill the gaps. TBH we could have done without loanees so far. Telford barely had a look in. Sweeney been poor and Bola played only a few games. If we do that we could really be risking our Div 1 future and a massive drop in s/t sales this summer As a minimum we need a player to replace the 10/15 goals BB would scored if he'd stayed. Yeah but then again the January loans last season helped us get to 10th and almost reach the play offs after snakey disappeared so you never know. With 3 weeks left and some dosh available from Bodin sale I would like to see at 1 or 2 permanent signings but I've no doubt loans will be part of the mix and I don't have a problem with that tbh.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 4, 2018 20:54:47 GMT
"I know naathink" in the words of Manuel!
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Post by bluestone on Jan 4, 2018 20:05:00 GMT
----------------Smith-------- Partington--Lockyer--Sweeney/*New--Brown ---------------*New*------------------ ------------Lines---*New*------------ --*New*--------------------------*New ------------Harrison/*New*-------------- What no place for Sercs or Gaffers?! They are some of our top goal scorers this season. Why not go the whole way and just get rid of everyone and start from scratch lol
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Post by bluestone on Jan 4, 2018 18:02:01 GMT
We couldn't afford him now.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 3, 2018 23:04:45 GMT
Good luck Billy and thanks for everything you have done for the gas, you have been a true pro.
As others have said I'm pleased it's been done early in the window to give DC a decent chance to get a replacement although it is not going to be easy to replace a technically gifted player like Billy who has a rather unique set of skills.
I can't wait for BB to smash in a late winner for PNE against the sh*t when they next meet in the championship!
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Post by bluestone on Jan 3, 2018 20:22:43 GMT
Wow, can't believe I was fooled so easily, I should have realised all along that this was simply a bloody smoke screen to avoid me noticing that BB is just about to be sold. I didn't see that coming....lol!
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Post by bluestone on Jan 3, 2018 18:53:44 GMT
Hasn't he got better things to do like spending Daddy's dosh, you know the dosh that belongs to the inland revenue.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 3, 2018 18:50:43 GMT
Short but sweet statement.
Good to know things are still progressing with the Colony project and I for one appreciate the club communicating with us on this, although it wont be good enough for some no doubt.
Really looking forward to seeing the design once it has been submitted for planning approval.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 1, 2018 23:46:32 GMT
Nooooo! Not the beard! If he goes then we won't have any players that look like a pirate.
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Post by bluestone on Jan 1, 2018 14:24:21 GMT
If we play as good as we did against Pompey in the first half at their gaff earlier in the season then we have a good chance of getting the win.
We literally bossed them off the park in the first half, sadly when we came out after the break we were no where near as good and ended up getting thrashed 3-0! Let's hope that doesn't happen today.
Unfortunately I'm unable to make the game today due to family commitments, hope all you gasheads at the game make some serious noise and drown out the Pompey fans who can be quite noisy, I hope they don't bring their bloody drum with them!
UTG!
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Post by bluestone on Dec 31, 2017 14:08:59 GMT
Ok folks it's a little bit late cos we've played 25 and not 23. But just want to hear your thoughts on BRFC ( the footballing side of things PLEASE) ! 1.How are the team doing compared to your pre-season expectations ? 2. How has DC done ? 3.How have the new signings done ? (Nichols, Sercombe, Telford, Bola, Broadbent, Smith, Slocombe and Sweeney (on his return) ) 4.Who do you think will leave or would benefit from going/ being loaned out ? 5. Which players/positions you would like to see DC get players in for ? 6. and finally, interestingly, what is your prediction for our final position come May ? 1) Had expected us to be higher than 16th at this stage. I thought we would be in the top ten but looking at the table we are only actually 5 points adrift which when you think of it that way it does not seem quite so bad I suppose. 2) DC - wouldn't change him for anyone else and am still very happy overall, however I would like him to adopt slightly different tactics at from home. I don't see what is wrong with keeping things tight defensively whilst playing counter attack then unleashing fire and fury for the last 20 mins. To my mind we have been way too gung-ho, we should set up more defensive than at home and see how the game pans out. 3) Sercombe - has been excellent but has more in his locker I think. Sweeney - disappointing compared with last season. Nichols - there's a decent player in there but has been unable to shine due to our narrow formation. Broadbent - what a find! Bola - very good, hope he stays till the end of the season, could prove pivotal imo. Smith & Slocs - both decent but neither up to Lumley standards, prefer Slocs tbh but Smith seems to be getting better. Telford - NOLE! 4) Ditch Moore & Burn, loan out Broom. 5) As a minimum we need to bring in 2 wide players, a defensive midfielder and another striker, but that assumes we keep all players other than those listed above, if we lose any others then we also need replacements. 6) If we do some decent business in Jan and based on the fact that we always seem to be better in the second half of the season I expect us to finish higher than we did last season but not high enough to make the play offs so I reckon 8th. UTG!
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Post by bluestone on Dec 31, 2017 11:18:02 GMT
I don't think it was coincidence that following BBB's injury our form / results immediately dipped resulting in us dropping down the table, we have improved a little recently following his return.
If he goes in Jan then we will really struggle to replace him so unless the offer we receive is seriously good then I would rather see him leave on a free in the summer and stay to help us secure our place in L1 for next season.
Help us Billy B Bodin you're our only hope!
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Post by bluestone on Dec 30, 2017 22:50:55 GMT
Rhetorical question me thinks.
It's mainly because DC spent £300k on Nichols in the summer and he wants him to prove that he was right to spend it by coming good with a goal rush. The fact that both Harrison and Gaffeny have been on form so far this season hasn't helped either.
I agree that Telford has definately not been given a decent opportunity to show what he can do and unfortunately I don't expect him to be with us when the window opens in January as he will probably be recalled by his club.
Although Sweeney hasn't been nearly as good as last season I really hope he sticks around as imo we've got our work cut out finding players for other areas of the pitch tbh.
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Post by bluestone on Dec 27, 2017 0:08:01 GMT
Just watched DC's latest post match video from the Walsall game and was very glad to see that he has recovered from his illness and is now back at the helm.
It did make me chuckle when he referred to whoever in the EFL sorts out the fixture list as a "clown sat in his office drinking tea / coffee who had never played over 90 minutes of football in his life".
Welcome back DC, we missed you!
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Post by bluestone on Dec 23, 2017 20:30:46 GMT
The pitch isn't a pitch anymore it's a bloody sand pit.
It's been totally ruined and it's going to get a lot worse before the end of the season.
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