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Post by LJG on Apr 5, 2021 11:44:59 GMT
I couldn't care less about his historical criminal past and I haven't mentioned it anywhere in my criticism of him. I don't see how my comments can't be seen as a rational appraisal of the current situation 1. His form since becoming manager is terrible; 2. He slags off players publicly; 3. Slags off coaches publicly; 4. Slags off predecessors publicly; 5. Slags off the club publicly. Whether or not you agree with any of what he says, he's acting in a totally unprofessional manner and getting terrible results to boot. !) Agreed 2) At least slagging him off seems to have highlighted the fact Emher needs a shoulder op 3) He's not slagged off any of the present coaches? 4) He's only agreeing with most of us when it came to the previous managers 5) Not sure he's slagging off the club generally just raising issues the like of DC have in the past "30 years behind the times" etc, most of us agreed with DC rather than calling for his head. JB's saying now what other recent manager's needed to have said, sacking him now will just let Starnes and co sweep the problems under the carpet and we'll never progress. Did you just not read the last sentence of my post?
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Post by LJG on Apr 5, 2021 10:36:46 GMT
Why are you obsessed with trying to get mods to censor criticism of your twat overlord? Why are you obsessed with telling people who don't rate your, loud mouth, talentless, twat overlord to support a different club? I would have thought that the person who needs to support a different club is the one who has become obsessed with the celebrity of an ex-premier league player who, at the moment is doing everything he can to ruin the club I support by publicly slating the players and the club in the press and talking about what he's going to do next season instead of concentrating on changing his dogshit form (twice as bad as the previous two managers) in this season. So why don't you go and find a Joey Barton forum to post on because you obviously care more about him than Rovers. LJG some people rate JB and his coaching capabilities and are prepared to look at his historical misdemeanours as historical and as things that have 2 sides to the story and more than the sensationalist press journalist stories that focus on selling headlines - I.e. the cigar incident, the youth player set fire to his jacket whilst JB was wearing it and he didn’t stub the cigar out in his eye, as he turned round the cigar caught his eye area.... the fights - both incidents were after provocation where individuals had punched or ‘attacked’ him / his friends. Now what actually happened in those incidents no one other than those involved actually know. Other people (and I class you in this camp) do not rate JB, are not prepared to look at the historical misdemeanours in the same way and don’t want him anywhere near the club. If that is your opinion, then you are entitled to it. However, comments like you have made on this thread add nothing to the debate - criticise JB by any means but add rationale and reason behind what or why you don’t think he is up to the task. At least then it gives something to consider and discuss. Pointless comments with no substance - either praising or slagging off the managers just creates antagonism and divide and turns this forum into a slagging match and for me then a place to avoid. So, please whatever your views and opinion, can we keep it constructive and avoid dividing ourselves even further.... I couldn't care less about his historical criminal past and I haven't mentioned it anywhere in my criticism of him. I don't see how my comments can't be seen as a rational appraisal of the current situation 1. His form since becoming manager is terrible; 2. He slags off players publicly; 3. Slags off coaches publicly; 4. Slags off predecessors publicly; 5. Slags off the club publicly. Whether or not you agree with any of what he says, he's acting in a totally unprofessional manner and getting terrible results to boot.
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Post by LJG on Apr 5, 2021 8:44:12 GMT
The one thing Joseph is good at is being a whinging scouse prick and nothing else. The only surgery that's been done is the apparent full frontal lobotomy he's had. How can the mods allow this,LJG please find another club to support because you ain’t a gashead somewhere like Australia would be a suggestion goodbye 👋 Why are you obsessed with trying to get mods to censor criticism of your twat overlord? Why are you obsessed with telling people who don't rate your, loud mouth, talentless, twat overlord to support a different club? I would have thought that the person who needs to support a different club is the one who has become obsessed with the celebrity of an ex-premier league player who, at the moment is doing everything he can to ruin the club I support by publicly slating the players and the club in the press and talking about what he's going to do next season instead of concentrating on changing his dogshit form (twice as bad as the previous two managers) in this season. So why don't you go and find a Joey Barton forum to post on because you obviously care more about him than Rovers.
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Post by LJG on Apr 4, 2021 22:06:31 GMT
Joseph needs to get it right tomorrow, it s s#*$$ or bust time, only 3 points will do, what the squad have t fathomed out, is that they are less suitable for league 2 football, so when we get relegated they will have to find alternative employment next season. One thing joseph will be good at is getting rid of players whether under contract or not, let s hope the penny drops soon, as we are running out of time. The one thing Joseph is good at is being a whinging scouse prick and nothing else. The only surgery that's been done is the apparent full frontal lobotomy he's had.
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Post by LJG on Apr 4, 2021 22:02:58 GMT
It's not though is it? It's one person making completely unprofessional comments in public. Nothing to do with the club or anyone else other than the person making them. You're right about that. I find JB's comments unprofessional, lacking in class and completely needless. Still makes it an internal conflict at the club though, and ergo, a sort of civil war. I don't disagree that that's what Barton is alleging. But then Barton alleges that there is a wholesale conspiracy by all professional football officials against Joey Barton. So ...
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Post by LJG on Apr 4, 2021 18:37:32 GMT
“once we get our hands on the recruitment side of it and bring the players in that I know can do the job, Bristol Rovers will be successful.” “Someone has recruited them for something, they’ve seen something in them whereas I personally don’t see the same things that maybe they’re seeing.“ On the staff... “I know exactly who it is and who is going to leave and the owner is aware of that.“ If Wael is backing Barton then Geordie Tommy should be relieved of his duties today and this charade bought to an end. Civil war at the Gas. Our club is an absolute joke. It's not though is it? It's one person making completely unprofessional comments in public. Nothing to do with the club or anyone else other than the person making them.
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Post by LJG on Apr 4, 2021 18:22:59 GMT
We didn’t have Rodman at all in October and I think Nicholson started one game. We played 6 league games - 3 wins 2 draws and 1 defeat (to Hull).in the 6 games we scored 8 goals with Hanlan and Daly getting 3 each. Not saying its a great squad but it’s good enough to average a point a game. You forgot the defeat to oxford in the cup...but that is a cup game. Rovers also had 2 pens that month (thats 2 of hanlans goals no doubt) 2 players of the opposition also got red cards that month. Average line up was. Jaakola Ehmer Baldwin Harries Hare Westbrooke McCormick Grant Tutonda Daly Hanlan The "Penalties don't count" thing is such a weak argument. We've heard it before about Elliot Richards. Then we swapped him for Alan Gow and the rest is history (that history being we went down because we'd stopped winning and scoring penalties). Tom Nichols and Luke James are perfect examples of how easy it is to score penalties.
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Post by LJG on Apr 4, 2021 17:38:40 GMT
...and therein lies the problem. Lockyer was a very good defender who read the game very well and has gone on to greater things. Craig was a defender who was coming to the end of his career and dropped a division when he left us. The fact that Gasheads seem to think Craig is the greater loss says more about the Gasheads judgement than it does about the players' ability. Lockyer left two summers ago, his leaving is relevant to our failings this season. Something's happened to make us go from a top 3 chasing side to a bottom 4 side in 18 months. This comment might be the definition of irony.
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 21:51:49 GMT
I believe 46 points will be enough. Not in order I know. Here’s where it comes from. Donny have gone scoreless 5 of their last 6. Win. Northampton. Cagey draw. Crewe will have flip flops on. Win Pompey - we do ok against them. Draw Mk - banana skin, play us off the park. Lose. Lincoln - in no form. Win. Blackpool - already in play offs and play their kids. Win to preserve league one status. 48 points. Safety. Why not. Keep the faith. Moaning gets us nowhere. We're not going to win 4 games. R Joey is on the beach. He's given up. Haven't you been listening to him lately? He's written this season off. Hard to win games in your flip flops.
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 18:56:30 GMT
Get this deluded zero achiever out as soon as possible. I'd say wait until the end of the season but he seems to think the season is over so just treat him like it has. Easy to post that but there's a good chance Wael will appoint somebody far worse as a replacement. No there isn't. They would be too hard to find. Even if he appoints someone with as bad a managerial record he'd be hard pushed to find anyone who conducts himself as badly in front of camera.
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 16:55:25 GMT
LJG He hasnt given up. He is trying to reduce the pressure by giving that impression. When did he tell you that?
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 16:54:56 GMT
It's bollocks. Forget it. We're not targeting anything. Didn't you hear that dickhead Barton's post match interview yesterday? Taking them out in the street and shooting them. He's absolved himself of any involvement in this season. Joey has his flip flops on and is on the beach already. He clearly has no interest in motivating the squad to stay up. He's decided he'll be the hero next season instead. Bottom is where we will finish thanks to r Joey who has played prem football so must be worth having. Seems like a sound strategy to me. Let me think "Joey" as Manager, or "Ben who ?" or "I am not a magician" Tisdale. I know, the Evertonian every time. Utg Sound strategy? Worked well against Ipswich didn't it?
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 12:22:49 GMT
In I think he can improve us, once he gets the opportunity to bring players of his choice into the squad, and hopefully ditch some of the dead wood. He'll bring in a different type of player than BG did, players with fire in their belly, and a few with experience to help bring the younger lads on. I don't think anything will be achieved by changing the manager yet again. What is it, in Barton's history of recruiting players, that gives you such positivity?
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 12:20:41 GMT
Win monday and everything can change. If Northampton lose at Hull we could be just two points behind and then its in our hands to beat them saturday or at the very least not lose because after us Northampton have Peterborough Away,Ipswich Home,Blackpool Home and finish with Sunderland Away. We are now at the point where every game is a Cup final. We're not going to win Monday- why are you pretending r Joey hasn't given up?
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 11:59:10 GMT
Get this deluded zero achiever out as soon as possible. I'd say wait until the end of the season but he seems to think the season is over so just treat him like it has.
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 11:36:19 GMT
Been thinking..... If we start next season in League 2, then surely we have the chance of a successful promotion season. As opposed to we stay up and are attempting to be mid table in league 1 next year. Bigger fish little pond and all that. In my several decades of being Gas promotions have given me some of my best memories. So, starting over with some new players might lead to a season to remember. Are you taking the water? We went down in 01 and in 02 finished 23rd - the last season it was one down one up from the conference. The next season we finished 20th. It was another 5 years before we finally got promoted via the playoffs and even then we were only in a playoff spot for about 2 games of that season. We went down in 11 and finished 15th for a couple of seasons before eventually going down to the conference. To think that we're going to come straight back up and to think we're going to do it with this self obsessed twat as manager is just... it's not even deluded... it's just rude.
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 11:31:40 GMT
It's bollocks. Forget it. We're not targeting anything. Didn't you hear that dickhead Barton's post match interview yesterday? Taking them out in the street and shooting them. He's absolved himself of any involvement in this season. Joey has his flip flops on and is on the beach already. He clearly has no interest in motivating the squad to stay up. He's decided he'll be the hero next season instead.
Bottom is where we will finish thanks to r Joey who has played prem football so must be worth having.
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Post by LJG on Mar 26, 2021 11:45:40 GMT
I don't agree that the club is going backwards. The club is debt free for the first time in multiple decades and has it's own state of the art training facility. So, Idon't think the club is in need of a shake up. The team are not performing well on the pitch. That's completely different. My opinion is that internal appointment has always seen us do best. The question of who I would appoint just distracts from the question of whether or not we should allow Joey Barton to "shake up" the club. I think plenty were disappointed when DC was appointed, probably Gerry even. GC was doing well, Ollie did well. I think it's something we should take as a model for the club. Fair enough comment but again you refuse to put a name forward. I said take JB out of the picture who would you appoint from within. Because if I did give a name the barrage of posts would start "What? X is rubbish! Never even played prem football like are Joey!" That conversation is totally irrelevant to the discussion of whether Joey Barton should be given free reign to "shake up the club from top to bottom". Alright lads - I've devoted enough time to jabbering back and forth about whether a completely mediocre league one manager should be handed the reigns of the club regardless of his ability to do so just because he's a household name and frankly I've spent too much time thinking about Rovers for too long without any payoff so I'm tapping out for a while maybe a day or so, maybe a week or two, maybe for the rest of the season. Cheers, guys.
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Post by LJG on Mar 25, 2021 22:31:37 GMT
There are plenty of posts on various threads stating Starnes and Widdrington should be relieved of their duties and Barton being allowed to make wholesale changes throughout the club "from top to bottom" that seems to me to be a suggestion that Barton have influence not just on the playing side. Good . They need shaking up ! Utg Don't be silly.
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Post by LJG on Mar 25, 2021 22:22:04 GMT
The club clearly isn't going backwards. The club is debt free for the first time in multiple decades and has it's own state of the art training facility. So, no I don't think the club is in need of a shake up. The team are not performing well on the pitch. That's completely different. The question of who I would appoint is completely irrelevant to whether or not we should allow Joey Barton to "shake up" the club. Any suggestion I make would give you the opportunity to deflect the weakness of your argument that he should on to that, totally separate, subject. The simply fact is there isn't a suitable internal candidate or he would have been made caretaker manager rather than TW. The only obvious candidate is Hargreaves but he's been overlooked twice and just seems content to plod along in the background at Rovers rather than seek a manager's, or assistant manager's job in senior football. Again. Irrelevant to the point I'm making.
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