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Post by gregsy on Jul 4, 2017 14:55:08 GMT
there's at least 3 sensible posts on this thread....
I fear that gaschat may been hacked by the north Koreans....
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Post by Thatslife on Jul 4, 2017 14:55:19 GMT
Look. I'm far from a negative posted and yes DC is positive However, I am disappointed. I don't like it when goalposts are moved. Steve Hamer has said we have a top 6 budget. If we are only going to sign 7/8 players (some on loan) then I highly doubt we will be in the top 6 in terms of budget. I would be surprised if we are even top half. It would be nice to get off to a good start for a change this season. What monetary figures are you using to be able to say that you "highly doubt we will be in the top 6 in terms of budget" ?
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Post by pirate on Jul 4, 2017 14:55:41 GMT
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jul 4, 2017 14:57:01 GMT
I said the other day, what would this forum be like if we had all taken the month of June off?
We'd be back here now saying it's great we've got Sercombe in the building early and most importantly, that DC has signed a new 5 year contract. Then we might start to talk about what positions need strengthening etc. As it is, we've been having this conversation for a whole month whilst nothing much happens in football circles.
Chill! There's more to life than football. Before the invention of fan forums I can remember rocking up to the first game of the season literally not knowing who a couple of the players were.
It's the constant media stirring of the pot that has made its way into social media and just results in us wanting everything to happen yeaterday.
DC has kept this club on a 3 year upward curve and so just needs our backing, in my opinion. There will be new faces. Just relax and have patience.
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Post by spiess1 on Jul 4, 2017 14:57:52 GMT
You need to get your dictionary indated then, Sean.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 14:58:33 GMT
Said we won't be near the big spenders in this league. Contradicts his top-6 budget comment doesn't it? Yeah because at the height of the transfer market it's a really bad idea to say you don't have a big budget.....c'mon, who says they have money to spend? Answer, people who will soon be extorted.
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Post by HarryBayles on Jul 4, 2017 15:01:42 GMT
Said we won't be near the big spenders in this league. Contradicts his top-6 budget comment doesn't it? Yeah because at the height of the transfer market it's a really bad idea to say you don't have a big budget.....c'mon, who says they have money to spend? Answer, people who will soon be extorted. Steve Hamer said we did though.... hence my point earlier in this thread
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 15:05:01 GMT
Some people on here drive me mad. I haven't posted properly in God knows how long, but the constant negativity/moaning/complaining has driven me to comment. After watching DC's interview, how can anyone be worried? The guy is relaxed, buoyant and positive. If he was frustrated in his transfer attempts we'd be able to tell, because DC is rubbish at hiding his emotions. The fact he is in a good mood and talks so optimistically about the future progression of the club says it all. To the people complaining about our first team signings: he says he is excited about who we are wanting to bring in. This suggests we haven't missed out on any (or at least very few) of his preferred targets. He says he'll bring in 7 or 8 by the end of August (hopefully many of them will be in before the start of the season). With Liam Sercombe added to that, it would make 9 signings plus, as he says, money saved for a rainy day in January. We'll be getting two experienced goalkeepers in the building, so those worrying about that position shouldn't be concerned! [To SteveK who mentioned about losing Hartley - it's blatantly obvious DC doesn't care one iota that we've lost him. We have Lockyer, Partington, Burn and J. Clarke who can all play centre half and he wants to add a left footed CB too. That is surely more than enough cover to start the season with?] To those moaning about the budget 'clearly not being top six as was said in May': what are you on about? DC says we won't compete with the big spenders, aka the Blackburn's of this world who are spending massive fees and wages on players. If you ever thought we'd compete with them you are smoking something. It doesn't mean we don't have a top six budget (and even then, Hamer said that DC 'thought' it would be a top six budget when he was given the figure, not that it was guaranteed) so stop reading so negatively into everything. The smile on DC's face during the interview tells me he's happy with what he's got. To the people moaning about potential loan signings: we all know DC doesn't like relying on loan signings - he's said this numerous times in the past. But find me any club at this level who won't have a few loan signings this coming season. I bet you can't. By the sounds of it we are interested in players who have taken part in the Euro U21 Championships, which suggests they are of a very decent calibre. City signed one last year and look what he did for them. You have to utilise the loan market well and DC knows this, so those who are absolutely, totally, unbelievably against loan signings just have to get over it. To those moaning that we aren't producing our own young players by taking youngsters on loan: we are quite literally in the process of building our own U21/23 side. This with the purpose of, you guessed it, producing our own young players. It doesn't happen overnight and we have to put the time in before we reap the rewards. DC says we have 14(?) U21s on trial with the view to joining Chris Hargreaves' young team and that's an encouraging start. It shows we're taking that side of things seriously. I don't for the life of me understand the negativity after watching that interview. Trust the greatest manager in our recent history (if not ever) and let him get on with his job. Rant over, I'll go back to observing now. I have an opinion about loan signings which doesn't agree with yours - it's not called moaning. We had six loanees last season that frankly (apart from one) really didn't give a toss about Bristol Rovers and whether or not we were going to challenge for promotion - I wonder why - because it did really impact on their careers. Six loanees that frankly were a waste of space - Boateng, Roberts, Colkett, Clarke- Salter (all Premiership), Roos & James. Actually the only person "moaning" is you.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Jul 4, 2017 15:09:41 GMT
Some people on here drive me mad. I haven't posted properly in God knows how long, but the constant negativity/moaning/complaining has driven me to comment. After watching DC's interview, how can anyone be worried? The guy is relaxed, buoyant and positive. If he was frustrated in his transfer attempts we'd be able to tell, because DC is rubbish at hiding his emotions. The fact he is in a good mood and talks so optimistically about the future progression of the club says it all. To the people complaining about our first team signings: he says he is excited about who we are wanting to bring in. This suggests we haven't missed out on any (or at least very few) of his preferred targets. He says he'll bring in 7 or 8 by the end of August (hopefully many of them will be in before the start of the season). With Liam Sercombe added to that, it would make 9 signings plus, as he says, money saved for a rainy day in January. We'll be getting two experienced goalkeepers in the building, so those worrying about that position shouldn't be concerned! [To SteveK who mentioned about losing Hartley - it's blatantly obvious DC doesn't care one iota that we've lost him. We have Lockyer, Partington, Burn and J. Clarke who can all play centre half and he wants to add a left footed CB too. That is surely more than enough cover to start the season with?] To those moaning about the budget 'clearly not being top six as was said in May': what are you on about? DC says we won't compete with the big spenders, aka the Blackburn's of this world who are spending massive fees and wages on players. If you ever thought we'd compete with them you are smoking something. It doesn't mean we don't have a top six budget (and even then, Hamer said that DC 'thought' it would be a top six budget when he was given the figure, not that it was guaranteed) so stop reading so negatively into everything. The smile on DC's face during the interview tells me he's happy with what he's got. To the people moaning about potential loan signings: we all know DC doesn't like relying on loan signings - he's said this numerous times in the past. But find me any club at this level who won't have a few loan signings this coming season. I bet you can't. By the sounds of it we are interested in players who have taken part in the Euro U21 Championships, which suggests they are of a very decent calibre. City signed one last year and look what he did for them. You have to utilise the loan market well and DC knows this, so those who are absolutely, totally, unbelievably against loan signings just have to get over it. To those moaning that we aren't producing our own young players by taking youngsters on loan: we are quite literally in the process of building our own U21/23 side. This with the purpose of, you guessed it, producing our own young players. It doesn't happen overnight and we have to put the time in before we reap the rewards. DC says we have 14(?) U21s on trial with the view to joining Chris Hargreaves' young team and that's an encouraging start. It shows we're taking that side of things seriously. I don't for the life of me understand the negativity after watching that interview. Trust the greatest manager in our recent history (if not ever) and let him get on with his job. Rant over, I'll go back to observing now. I have an opinion about loan signings which doesn't agree with yours - it's not called moaning. We had six loanees last season that frankly ( apart from one) really didn't give a toss about Bristol Rovers and whether or not we were going to challenge for promotion - I wonder why - because it did really impact on their careers. Six loanees that frankly were a waste of space - Boateng, Roberts, Colkett, Clarke- Salter (all Premiership), Roos & James. Actually the only person "moaning" is you. Joanna and the Sweeney were both decent?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 15:11:18 GMT
Some people on here drive me mad. I haven't posted properly in God knows how long, but the constant negativity/moaning/complaining has driven me to comment. After watching DC's interview, how can anyone be worried? The guy is relaxed, buoyant and positive. If he was frustrated in his transfer attempts we'd be able to tell, because DC is rubbish at hiding his emotions. The fact he is in a good mood and talks so optimistically about the future progression of the club says it all. To the people complaining about our first team signings: he says he is excited about who we are wanting to bring in. This suggests we haven't missed out on any (or at least very few) of his preferred targets. He says he'll bring in 7 or 8 by the end of August (hopefully many of them will be in before the start of the season). With Liam Sercombe added to that, it would make 9 signings plus, as he says, money saved for a rainy day in January. We'll be getting two experienced goalkeepers in the building, so those worrying about that position shouldn't be concerned! [To SteveK who mentioned about losing Hartley - it's blatantly obvious DC doesn't care one iota that we've lost him. We have Lockyer, Partington, Burn and J. Clarke who can all play centre half and he wants to add a left footed CB too. That is surely more than enough cover to start the season with?] To those moaning about the budget 'clearly not being top six as was said in May': what are you on about? DC says we won't compete with the big spenders, aka the Blackburn's of this world who are spending massive fees and wages on players. If you ever thought we'd compete with them you are smoking something. It doesn't mean we don't have a top six budget (and even then, Hamer said that DC 'thought' it would be a top six budget when he was given the figure, not that it was guaranteed) so stop reading so negatively into everything. The smile on DC's face during the interview tells me he's happy with what he's got. To the people moaning about potential loan signings: we all know DC doesn't like relying on loan signings - he's said this numerous times in the past. But find me any club at this level who won't have a few loan signings this coming season. I bet you can't. By the sounds of it we are interested in players who have taken part in the Euro U21 Championships, which suggests they are of a very decent calibre. City signed one last year and look what he did for them. You have to utilise the loan market well and DC knows this, so those who are absolutely, totally, unbelievably against loan signings just have to get over it. To those moaning that we aren't producing our own young players by taking youngsters on loan: we are quite literally in the process of building our own U21/23 side. This with the purpose of, you guessed it, producing our own young players. It doesn't happen overnight and we have to put the time in before we reap the rewards. DC says we have 14(?) U21s on trial with the view to joining Chris Hargreaves' young team and that's an encouraging start. It shows we're taking that side of things seriously. I don't for the life of me understand the negativity after watching that interview. Trust the greatest manager in our recent history (if not ever) and let him get on with his job. Rant over, I'll go back to observing now. I have an opinion about loan signings which doesn't agree with yours - it's not called moaning. We had six loanees last season that frankly (apart from one) really didn't give a toss about Bristol Rovers and whether or not we were going to challenge for promotion - I wonder why - because it did really impact on their careers. Six loanees that frankly were a waste of space - Boateng, Roberts, Colkett, Clarke- Salter (all Premiership), Roos & James. Actually the only person "moaning" is you. Ask them did you? They weren't all a waste of space, they provided quality at different times (Boateng for a few games, Colkett at Northampton etc.) but they're kids. They won't play 100% every game. Clubs of our size have little choice but to utilise the loan market, so we certainly won't go without loans. Problem last year was initial squad size, which is why I'm glad its now 7 or 8 coming in not 11.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 4, 2017 15:11:30 GMT
Look. I'm far from a negative posted and yes DC is positive However, I am disappointed. I don't like it when goalposts are moved. Steve Hamer has said we have a top 6 budget. If we are only going to sign 7/8 players (some on loan) then I highly doubt we will be in the top 6 in terms of budget. I would be surprised if we are even top half. It would be nice to get off to a good start for a change this season. What monetary figures are you using to be able to say that you "highly doubt we will be in the top 6 in terms of budget" ? I'm not as such. Just using my noggin. Hence the words "I highly doubt".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 15:16:53 GMT
I have an opinion about loan signings which doesn't agree with yours - it's not called moaning. We had six loanees last season that frankly ( apart from one) really didn't give a toss about Bristol Rovers and whether or not we were going to challenge for promotion - I wonder why - because it did really impact on their careers. Six loanees that frankly were a waste of space - Boateng, Roberts, Colkett, Clarke- Salter (all Premiership), Roos & James. Actually the only person "moaning" is you. Joanna and the Sweeney were both decent? Luke James the only one out of the six I mentioned.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 4, 2017 15:18:56 GMT
Unless there is a sudden rule where we can't loan any players from abroad then it could be anyone from a number of different players.
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Post by socrates on Jul 4, 2017 15:19:18 GMT
Take those rose tinted glasses off i myself think we'll be fighting relegation this season ( hope not and I will be at most games ) but we always seem very slow and uninformed on anything happening at the club remember without the fans the club would no longer be. How can you say that in the first week of July ? Surely we should see what our squad looks like in August before we can make any realistic predictions about where we're going to be.
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Post by pirate on Jul 4, 2017 15:20:30 GMT
Unless there is a sudden rule where we can't loan any players from abroad then it could be anyone from a number of different players. Of course, but is more realistic to think the players he was watching played in this country.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 4, 2017 15:20:53 GMT
Some people on here drive me mad. I haven't posted properly in God knows how long, but the constant negativity/moaning/complaining has driven me to comment. After watching DC's interview, how can anyone be worried? The guy is relaxed, buoyant and positive. If he was frustrated in his transfer attempts we'd be able to tell, because DC is rubbish at hiding his emotions. The fact he is in a good mood and talks so optimistically about the future progression of the club says it all. To the people complaining about our first team signings: he says he is excited about who we are wanting to bring in. This suggests we haven't missed out on any (or at least very few) of his preferred targets. He says he'll bring in 7 or 8 by the end of August (hopefully many of them will be in before the start of the season). With Liam Sercombe added to that, it would make 9 signings plus, as he says, money saved for a rainy day in January. We'll be getting two experienced goalkeepers in the building, so those worrying about that position shouldn't be concerned! [To SteveK who mentioned about losing Hartley - it's blatantly obvious DC doesn't care one iota that we've lost him. We have Lockyer, Partington, Burn and J. Clarke who can all play centre half and he wants to add a left footed CB too. That is surely more than enough cover to start the season with?] To those moaning about the budget 'clearly not being top six as was said in May': what are you on about? DC says we won't compete with the big spenders, aka the Blackburn's of this world who are spending massive fees and wages on players. If you ever thought we'd compete with them you are smoking something. It doesn't mean we don't have a top six budget (and even then, Hamer said that DC 'thought' it would be a top six budget when he was given the figure, not that it was guaranteed) so stop reading so negatively into everything. The smile on DC's face during the interview tells me he's happy with what he's got. To the people moaning about potential loan signings: we all know DC doesn't like relying on loan signings - he's said this numerous times in the past. But find me any club at this level who won't have a few loan signings this coming season. I bet you can't. By the sounds of it we are interested in players who have taken part in the Euro U21 Championships, which suggests they are of a very decent calibre. City signed one last year and look what he did for them. You have to utilise the loan market well and DC knows this, so those who are absolutely, totally, unbelievably against loan signings just have to get over it. To those moaning that we aren't producing our own young players by taking youngsters on loan: we are quite literally in the process of building our own U21/23 side. This with the purpose of, you guessed it, producing our own young players. It doesn't happen overnight and we have to put the time in before we reap the rewards. DC says we have 14(?) U21s on trial with the view to joining Chris Hargreaves' young team and that's an encouraging start. It shows we're taking that side of things seriously. I don't for the life of me understand the negativity after watching that interview. Trust the greatest manager in our recent history (if not ever) and let him get on with his job. Rant over, I'll go back to observing now. Chapeau!
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Post by pucklegas on Jul 4, 2017 15:34:10 GMT
Darrell says Relax, print that Bast@@@!
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Post by olskooltoteender on Jul 4, 2017 15:34:27 GMT
Some people on here drive me mad. I haven't posted properly in God knows how long, but the constant negativity/moaning/complaining has driven me to comment. After watching DC's interview, how can anyone be worried? The guy is relaxed, buoyant and positive. If he was frustrated in his transfer attempts we'd be able to tell, because DC is rubbish at hiding his emotions. The fact he is in a good mood and talks so optimistically about the future progression of the club says it all. To the people complaining about our first team signings: he says he is excited about who we are wanting to bring in. This suggests we haven't missed out on any (or at least very few) of his preferred targets. He says he'll bring in 7 or 8 by the end of August (hopefully many of them will be in before the start of the season). With Liam Sercombe added to that, it would make 9 signings plus, as he says, money saved for a rainy day in January. We'll be getting two experienced goalkeepers in the building, so those worrying about that position shouldn't be concerned! [To SteveK who mentioned about losing Hartley - it's blatantly obvious DC doesn't care one iota that we've lost him. We have Lockyer, Partington, Burn and J. Clarke who can all play centre half and he wants to add a left footed CB too. That is surely more than enough cover to start the season with?] To those moaning about the budget 'clearly not being top six as was said in May': what are you on about? DC says we won't compete with the big spenders, aka the Blackburn's of this world who are spending massive fees and wages on players. If you ever thought we'd compete with them you are smoking something. It doesn't mean we don't have a top six budget (and even then, Hamer said that DC 'thought' it would be a top six budget when he was given the figure, not that it was guaranteed) so stop reading so negatively into everything. The smile on DC's face during the interview tells me he's happy with what he's got. To the people moaning about potential loan signings: we all know DC doesn't like relying on loan signings - he's said this numerous times in the past. But find me any club at this level who won't have a few loan signings this coming season. I bet you can't. By the sounds of it we are interested in players who have taken part in the Euro U21 Championships, which suggests they are of a very decent calibre. City signed one last year and look what he did for them. You have to utilise the loan market well and DC knows this, so those who are absolutely, totally, unbelievably against loan signings just have to get over it. To those moaning that we aren't producing our own young players by taking youngsters on loan: we are quite literally in the process of building our own U21/23 side. This with the purpose of, you guessed it, producing our own young players. It doesn't happen overnight and we have to put the time in before we reap the rewards. DC says we have 14(?) U21s on trial with the view to joining Chris Hargreaves' young team and that's an encouraging start. It shows we're taking that side of things seriously. I don't for the life of me understand the negativity after watching that interview. Trust the greatest manager in our recent history (if not ever) and let him get on with his job. Rant over, I'll go back to observing now. It's because a lot of posters on here have an understanding of business that is about as complex as Junior Monopoly and correspondingly believe that real-life football happens like FIFA 17 or Football Manager . . .
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 4, 2017 15:37:24 GMT
Some people on here drive me mad. I haven't posted properly in God knows how long, but the constant negativity/moaning/complaining has driven me to comment. After watching DC's interview, how can anyone be worried? The guy is relaxed, buoyant and positive. If he was frustrated in his transfer attempts we'd be able to tell, because DC is rubbish at hiding his emotions. The fact he is in a good mood and talks so optimistically about the future progression of the club says it all. To the people complaining about our first team signings: he says he is excited about who we are wanting to bring in. This suggests we haven't missed out on any (or at least very few) of his preferred targets. He says he'll bring in 7 or 8 by the end of August (hopefully many of them will be in before the start of the season). With Liam Sercombe added to that, it would make 9 signings plus, as he says, money saved for a rainy day in January. We'll be getting two experienced goalkeepers in the building, so those worrying about that position shouldn't be concerned! [To SteveK who mentioned about losing Hartley - it's blatantly obvious DC doesn't care one iota that we've lost him. We have Lockyer, Partington, Burn and J. Clarke who can all play centre half and he wants to add a left footed CB too. That is surely more than enough cover to start the season with?] To those moaning about the budget 'clearly not being top six as was said in May': what are you on about? DC says we won't compete with the big spenders, aka the Blackburn's of this world who are spending massive fees and wages on players. If you ever thought we'd compete with them you are smoking something. It doesn't mean we don't have a top six budget (and even then, Hamer said that DC 'thought' it would be a top six budget when he was given the figure, not that it was guaranteed) so stop reading so negatively into everything. The smile on DC's face during the interview tells me he's happy with what he's got. To the people moaning about potential loan signings: we all know DC doesn't like relying on loan signings - he's said this numerous times in the past. But find me any club at this level who won't have a few loan signings this coming season. I bet you can't. By the sounds of it we are interested in players who have taken part in the Euro U21 Championships, which suggests they are of a very decent calibre. City signed one last year and look what he did for them. You have to utilise the loan market well and DC knows this, so those who are absolutely, totally, unbelievably against loan signings just have to get over it. To those moaning that we aren't producing our own young players by taking youngsters on loan: we are quite literally in the process of building our own U21/23 side. This with the purpose of, you guessed it, producing our own young players. It doesn't happen overnight and we have to put the time in before we reap the rewards. DC says we have 14(?) U21s on trial with the view to joining Chris Hargreaves' young team and that's an encouraging start. It shows we're taking that side of things seriously. I don't for the life of me understand the negativity after watching that interview. Trust the greatest manager in our recent history (if not ever) and let him get on with his job. Rant over, I'll go back to observing now. I'm also having a break from this forum at the moment as most of the posts / replies are negative or stupid bloody song titles !!! Can I just say I think your post is excellent, I wish I could of posted it myself!!!!!! Back to my break !
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