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Post by peterparker on Aug 8, 2017 6:33:01 GMT
Why would we say that? That is like showing your cards in the middle of a poker hand 🙈 Didn't we apparently give them a HoT before we walked so already showing our hand? The way things have been left there seems zero public pressure on the UWE to do anything but tons of pressure on Wael to now do something. Perhaps Wael will say on Saturday talks are back on with the UWE but I fear he'll just confirm talks won;t re-commence. Indeed, perhaps Gasheads should be criticising UWE instead of slagging of the Al-Qadis
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 8, 2017 6:41:16 GMT
Why would we say that? That is like showing your cards in the middle of a poker hand 🙈 Didn't we apparently give them a HoT before we walked so already showing our hand? The way things have been left there seems zero public pressure on the UWE to do anything but tons of pressure on Wael to now do something. Perhaps Wael will say on Saturday talks are back on with the UWE but I fear he'll just confirm talks won;t re-commence. As things stand, we have given UWE the impression that this is pretty much over for us and we are not going to back down. It's like when you're in one of those shosp on holiday and you get them trying to sell you something. If you seem interested still, they might come down a bit but not too much in price. If you walk away and show no interest then all of a sudden they are desperate and quick to drop even lower. It's all a ball game IMO and this is about putting the ball in our court for the first time in ages. I think we are so far away from a new stadium but also so near. It all depends on how much UWE will be willing to bend over for us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 6:57:36 GMT
Didn't we apparently give them a HoT before we walked so already showing our hand? The way things have been left there seems zero public pressure on the UWE to do anything but tons of pressure on Wael to now do something. Perhaps Wael will say on Saturday talks are back on with the UWE but I fear he'll just confirm talks won;t re-commence. As things stand, we have given UWE the impression that this is pretty much over for us and we are not going to back down. It's like when you're in one of those shosp on holiday and you get them trying to sell you something. If you seem interested still, they might come down a bit but not too much in price. If you walk away and show no interest then all of a sudden they are desperate and quick to drop even lower. It's all a ball game IMO and this is about putting the ball in our court for the first time in ages. I think we are so far away from a new stadium but also so near. It all depends on how much UWE will be willing to bend over for us. The big difference are there are plenty of trinket shops in your holiday town where you can buy a bangle you don't really need and not many 50 acre sites where you can get planning permission to build a stadium. Walk away and you will be looking a long time.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 8, 2017 7:01:04 GMT
As things stand, we have given UWE the impression that this is pretty much over for us and we are not going to back down. It's like when you're in one of those shosp on holiday and you get them trying to sell you something. If you seem interested still, they might come down a bit but not too much in price. If you walk away and show no interest then all of a sudden they are desperate and quick to drop even lower. It's all a ball game IMO and this is about putting the ball in our court for the first time in ages. I think we are so far away from a new stadium but also so near. It all depends on how much UWE will be willing to bend over for us. The big difference are there are plenty of trinket shops in your holiday town where you can buy a bangle you don't really need and not many 50 acre sites where you can get planning permission to build a stadium. Walk away and you will be looking a long time. Dangerous game maybe but if the current offer is definitely not going to be good enough then the higher gamble may be worth it.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 8, 2017 7:36:28 GMT
The big difference are there are plenty of trinket shops in your holiday town where you can buy a bangle you don't really need and not many 50 acre sites where you can get planning permission to build a stadium. Walk away and you will be looking a long time. Dangerous game maybe but if the current offer is definitely not going to be good enough then the higher gamble may be worth it. That's assuming it was a gamble and in reality we simply can't afford the stadium, as somebody else has said S Glos have been quite, UWE have hardly said a lot, perhaps everyone now accept it's dead. Not doubting Gashead1981 but has anyone seen the tweets, as to say the UWE location is too far out of town is barmy, particularly when all the new developments in N Bristol are taking place their, give it 5 or 10 years and that whole area will be covered with housing right across to the M32/M5 motorways plus there's Emersons Green etc being developed.
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 8, 2017 8:10:24 GMT
Anyone convinced we had the funding in place, I'm not so sure.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 8, 2017 8:17:40 GMT
Anyone convinced we had the funding in place, I'm not so sure. Maybe not, but then the funding was never in place before
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 8, 2017 8:22:35 GMT
Anyone convinced we had the funding in place, I'm not so sure. Maybe not, but then the funding was never in place before Sprout the last I heard was that the UWE wanted to see that we had the funds in place to complete the build, then it went quiet, not sure of anything, simple to say in Hamer speak, " messed up from the start!"
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Post by peterparker on Aug 8, 2017 8:27:35 GMT
Maybe not, but then the funding was never in place before Sprout the last I heard was that the UWE wanted to see that we had the funds in place to complete the build, Â then it went quiet, not sure of anything, simple to say in Hamer speak, " messed up from the start!" Its all far too odd. I would have thought proving the funds were there would have been one of the first things discussed before thrashing out details Whilst we have no real idea what the past,present, future Al-Qadi position, no one really as ever known what UWEs position is, and i think as much as questions need to be asked of BRFC, I think UWE have got of scot free. There statement of 'Not us Guv' is the most we have heard from them of any substance for years. UWE and BRFC are more similar regarding the stadium than what people think if UWE really want it Rovers have always needed someones money and UWE need someone to use it as one witbout the other isnt viable
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 8, 2017 8:56:43 GMT
The communication in general within the club is the worst it has been in my lifetime of watching the Gas. It is non existent other than the appearance of Hamer every now and again. Nobody knows what is going on and all we get is rumours which are never completely denied in tweets that could be taken many ways. Is answering on twitter really a professional way of running a football club? I haven't a clue what is going on from one week to the next and so all I know for definite is that barring bad weather we are playing Cambridge tonight in the cup and will again be short of pace and power- the two main commodities that successful clubs have.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 9:11:14 GMT
Would love this to be the case, but I think it's very doubtful. The only chance is for a mediator to step in & see if there is any common ground. S Glos has been very quiet for too long. The project was supposed to generate vast amounts for the area, perhaps they should be the ones to see if it can be salvaged. I don't think SGC will be too enamoured with the situation - particularly if our leader has publicly stated that UWE is too far out of town - albeit only 2/3 miles at most from the Mem. If UWE is too far out then the chances of finding a suitable site to meet the AQ's aspirations are zilch and will not be requiring support from SGC that's for sure. A lame excuse IMO - I cannot for the life of me see our current owners being around for the long haul - I just hope they haven't burnt the last bridge before they leave us. (Oops pressed the wrong like button before anyone pulls me up)
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 8, 2017 9:13:47 GMT
The communication in general within the club is the worst it has been in my lifetime of watching the Gas. It is non existent other than the appearance of Hamer every now and again. Nobody knows what is going on and all we get is rumours which are never completely denied in tweets that could be taken many ways. Is answering on twitter really a professional way of running a football club? I haven't a clue what is going on from one week to the next and so all I know for definite is that barring bad weather we are playing Cambridge tonight in the cup and will again be short of pace and power- the two main commodities that successful clubs have. We are in North Korea, cannot question anything according to some on here, but Hamer said in a weeks time we may be in a better place! im sure we got Hamer from the fast show, he talks in riddles. BSS used to give regular updates which was great.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 9:14:35 GMT
Can something be set up for those of us that don't use Twatter to see these tweets? I've heard that Wael is re-tweeting stuff that criticizes UWE and stuff that is supportive of redeveloping the Mem, but other tweets criticing him or his family are ignored......apparently. Who knows though eh? Is re-tweet the same as a 'like'? It is a very very odd way to communicate with the fanbase. Totally unprofessional.
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Post by gassince1957 on Aug 8, 2017 9:16:39 GMT
I believe we are. Whilst I think we genuinely weren't happy with the current terms provided, I believe last week's announcement was made to call their bluff in reconsidering a lower price/deal? I believe you're living in false hope and we simply can't get close to what ever the UWE want, if we were calling their bluff to get a better deal why haven't we said that rather than simply saying the deals off to the press. That approach worked well for David Cameron!
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Post by yattongas on Aug 8, 2017 9:25:44 GMT
Can something be set up for those of us that don't use Twatter to see these tweets? I've heard that Wael is re-tweeting stuff that criticizes UWE and stuff that is supportive of redeveloping the Mem, but other tweets criticing him or his family are ignored......apparently. Who knows though eh? Is re-tweet the same as a 'like'? It is a very very odd way to communicate with the fanbase. Totally unprofessional. As far as I an see he's retweeted just one thing about UWE someone ( Jerry Hicks) wrote. " @official-BRFC the UWE dream is dead. Long live the (next) dream. Memorial or whatever. #utg"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 9:48:34 GMT
Can something be set up for those of us that don't use Twatter to see these tweets? I've heard that Wael is re-tweeting stuff that criticizes UWE and stuff that is supportive of redeveloping the Mem, but other tweets criticing him or his family are ignored......apparently. Who knows though eh? Is re-tweet the same as a 'like'? It is a very very odd way to communicate with the fanbase. Totally unprofessional. The etiquette is a re-tweet is something you like and feel others should know...if you don't like then you re-tweet with a sarky comment. I attached one earlier as an example. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 8, 2017 9:58:52 GMT
Can something be set up for those of us that don't use Twatter to see these tweets? I've heard that Wael is re-tweeting stuff that criticizes UWE and stuff that is supportive of redeveloping the Mem, but other tweets criticing him or his family are ignored......apparently. Who knows though eh? Is re-tweet the same as a 'like'? It is a very very odd way to communicate with the fanbase. Totally unprofessional. As far as I an see he's retweeted just one thing about UWE someone ( Jerry Hicks) wrote. " @official-BRFC the UWE dream is dead. Long live the (next) dream. Memorial or whatever. #utg" Why would Wael retweet that anyway, wasn't Jerry Hicks taking the p out of him? As I asked before on the thread has anybody seen Gashead1981 conversation before it's accepted Wael actually said that about the UWE being too far out of town/what context was it said?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 10:00:27 GMT
Can something be set up for those of us that don't use Twatter to see these tweets? I've heard that Wael is re-tweeting stuff that criticizes UWE and stuff that is supportive of redeveloping the Mem, but other tweets criticing him or his family are ignored......apparently. Who knows though eh? Is re-tweet the same as a 'like'? It is a very very odd way to communicate with the fanbase. Totally unprofessional. The etiquette is a re-tweet is something you like and feel others should know...if you don't like then you re-tweet with a sarky comment. I attached one earlier as an example. Here an example of a tweet to Wael which gets no reply....Take time to find but I hope this gives you a feel of the tweeting going on Nobby Attachment Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 10:04:04 GMT
As far as I an see he's retweeted just one thing about UWE someone ( Jerry Hicks) wrote. " @official-BRFC the UWE dream is dead. Long live the (next) dream. Memorial or whatever. #utg" Why would Wael retweet that anyway, wasn't Jerry Hicks taking the p out of him? As I asked before on the thread has anybody seen Gashead1981 conversation before it's accepted Wael actually said that about the UWE being too far out of town/what context was it said? Liker you Topper, I've searched and can't find a tweet about UWE being too far out of town...
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 8, 2017 10:08:55 GMT
Dangerous game maybe but if the current offer is definitely not going to be good enough then the higher gamble may be worth it. That's assuming it was a gamble and in reality we simply can't afford the stadium, as somebody else has said S Glos have been quite, UWE have hardly said a lot, perhaps everyone now accept it's dead. Not doubting Gashead1981 but has anyone seen the tweets, as to say the UWE location is too far out of town is barmy, particularly when all the new developments in N Bristol are taking place their, give it 5 or 10 years and that whole area will be covered with housing right across to the M32/M5 motorways plus there's Emersons Green etc being developed. Don't think Uwe have accepted it's dead yet. Didn't they say they are going to carry on getting the site ready and carry on as though it's going ahead and that they still wanted it to happen. Hopefully they are trying to push it through and will force Wael to give the reasons behind the change of mind, if we don't agree terms.
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