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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 11:26:03 GMT
Just throw this out there........... UWE still want 'something' built there, and it doesn't have to be with Dwayne Sport. How about a bit of creative design that allows the BS women's football team to play there, plus a BS Basketball Arena, which can also be used for the BS Badminton team, and also doubles up as Bristol Arena for a music venue. Planning permission is still relevant, and we all know someone who has the cash to pay for it, plus the boost to his ego would be immense. Oh, and the cost probably amounts to one years interest on his 1.5 billion pound fortune. On problem with that My Fez friend is the planning application was put in by Bristol Rovers so they would have to go through the planning process all over again I don't know that much about planning permission, but that's not right is it? For instance, you could buy a house that already has planning permission for say, an extension. You could buy a plot of land (say, for a training ground) that already has planning permission. OK, you may have to adjust the planning permission, but it is still applicable?
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Post by baggins on Aug 8, 2017 11:29:40 GMT
On problem with that My Fez friend is the planning application was put in by Bristol Rovers so they would have to go through the planning process all over again I don't know that much about planning permission, but that's not right is it? For instance, you could buy a house that already has planning permission for say, an extension. You could buy a plot of land (say, for a training ground) that already has planning permission. OK, you may have to adjust the planning permission, but it is still applicable? No expert but I would imagine planning permission is pretty exact. Any alterations, it's time to start again.
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Post by pirate on Aug 8, 2017 11:31:21 GMT
On problem with that My Fez friend is the planning application was put in by Bristol Rovers so they would have to go through the planning process all over again the tax dodging rosy cheeked lady garden It's a good job Dwane Sports isn't registered in Jersey.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 11:33:25 GMT
I don't know that much about planning permission, but that's not right is it? For instance, you could buy a house that already has planning permission for say, an extension. You could buy a plot of land (say, for a training ground) that already has planning permission. OK, you may have to adjust the planning permission, but it is still applicable? No expert but I would imagine planning permission is pretty exact. Any alterations, it's time to start again. Well, you have to use the (supposed) training ground as an example. It came with Planning Permission. That original plan will now have to be modified, but my understanding is that it's just a modification, and not a complete planning permission application, with the modification being easier to pass as the planning had already been agreed? Surely, this was the whole point in buying that land for the training ground. It already had planning permission?
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Post by baggins on Aug 8, 2017 11:35:24 GMT
No expert but I would imagine planning permission is pretty exact. Any alterations, it's time to start again. Well, you have to use the (supposed) training ground as an example. It came with Planning Permission. That original plan will now have to be modified, but my understanding is that it's just a modification, and not a complete planning permission application, with the modification being easier to pass as the planning had already been agreed? Surely, this was the whole point in buying that land for the training ground. It already had planning permission? Planning permission for what though? Few outbuildings, couple of pitches? Thought we wanted far more and far better than just that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 11:45:13 GMT
Well, you have to use the (supposed) training ground as an example. It came with Planning Permission. That original plan will now have to be modified, but my understanding is that it's just a modification, and not a complete planning permission application, with the modification being easier to pass as the planning had already been agreed? Surely, this was the whole point in buying that land for the training ground. It already had planning permission? Planning permission for what though? Few outbuildings, couple of pitches? Thought we wanted far more and far better than just that? The point is, the planning permission was already there, and granted to someone else, not Dwayne Sport. DS bought the land, with the planning permission, and now want to change the original design. If someone else wants to build a stadium complex at UWE, the planning permission is already there. It will just need modifications.
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Post by baggins on Aug 8, 2017 11:50:54 GMT
Planning permission for what though? Few outbuildings, couple of pitches? Thought we wanted far more and far better than just that? The point is, the planning permission was already there, and granted to someone else, not Dwayne Sport. DS bought the land, with the planning permission, and now want to change the original design. If someone else wants to build a stadium complex at UWE, the planning permission is already there. It will just need modifications. And modifications is the key word, and the problem. Planners don't like it when permission is given and then you want add a little bit here, little bit there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 11:53:29 GMT
The point is, the planning permission was already there, and granted to someone else, not Dwayne Sport. DS bought the land, with the planning permission, and now want to change the original design. If someone else wants to build a stadium complex at UWE, the planning permission is already there. It will just need modifications. And modifications is the key word, and the problem. Planners don't like it when permission is given and then you want add a little bit here, little bit there. South Glos Council also want the deal to happen, as apparently, a lot of infrastructure work in the area depends on it. If the Rosy Cheeked Twat turns up and says he wants to build a sports/entertainment complex there, they'd bend over backwards to accommodate him.
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Post by baggins on Aug 8, 2017 11:55:08 GMT
And modifications is the key word, and the problem. Planners don't like it when permission is given and then you want add a little bit here, little bit there. South Glos Council also want the deal to happen, as apparently, a lot of infrastructure work in the area depends on it. If the Rosy Cheeked Twat turns up and says he wants to build a sports/entertainment complex there, they'd bend over backwards to accommodate him. Not sure we walked away because of South Glos Council.
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Post by LJG on Aug 8, 2017 11:56:03 GMT
You can buy land with the benefit of planning permission and utilise that planning permission. You don't have to have been the applicant.
If you know someone is on the lookout for something particular or you know a particular thing would be of benefit to the land making a planning application prior to sale is a (relatively) easy way to increase the value and up your profit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 11:59:50 GMT
You can buy land with the benefit of planning permission and utilise that planning permission. You don't have to have been the applicant. If you know someone is on the lookout for something particular or you know a particular thing would be of benefit to the land making a planning application prior to sale is a (relatively) easy way to increase the value and up your profit. There you go.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 8, 2017 12:04:56 GMT
The point is, the planning permission was already there, and granted to someone else, not Dwayne Sport. DS bought the land, with the planning permission, and now want to change the original design. If someone else wants to build a stadium complex at UWE, the planning permission is already there. It will just need modifications. And modifications is the key word, and the problem. Planners don't like it when permission is given and then you want add a little bit here, little bit there. Nobody would be modifying the plans just modifying who wanted to use the plans, but let's be honest unless Pantsdown as more money than sense who's going to want the UWE stadium other than Rovers? Although if UWE start work to keep pp alive then how much pressure would that put on the ALQ's to agree a deal?
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Post by baggins on Aug 8, 2017 12:06:13 GMT
And modifications is the key word, and the problem. Planners don't like it when permission is given and then you want add a little bit here, little bit there. Nobody would be modifying the plans just modifying who wanted to use the plans, but let's be honest unless Pantsdown as more money than sense who's going to want the UWE stadium other than Rovers? Although if UWE start work to keep pp alive then how much pressure would that put on the ALQ's to agree a deal? The deal with UWE and BRFC is dead. We've had enough.
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Post by LJG on Aug 8, 2017 12:17:43 GMT
Nobody would be modifying the plans just modifying who wanted to use the plans, but let's be honest unless Pantsdown as more money than sense who's going to want the UWE stadium other than Rovers? Although if UWE start work to keep pp alive then how much pressure would that put on the ALQ's to agree a deal? The deal with UWE and BRFC is dead. We've had enough. Aaaahhh but what if Wael suddenly becomes obsessed with Ultimate Wrestling Experience and wants to build a monument to it? Orrrr what if the chancellor of UWE loves the Black Rock Forest Consortium and wants to be able to see the letters BRFC writ bold from his office? Ever thought about either of those? No? Exactly!
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Post by baggins on Aug 8, 2017 12:19:36 GMT
The deal with UWE and BRFC is dead. We've had enough. Aaaahhh but what if Wael suddenly becomes obsessed with Ultimate Wrestling Experience and wants to build a monument to it? Orrrr what if the chancellor of UWE loves the Black Rock Forest Consortium and wants to be able to see the letters BRFC writ bold from his office? Ever thought about either of those? No? Exactly! I'm thoroughly ashamed of myself for not even considering any of those options.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 8, 2017 14:34:37 GMT
As far as I an see he's retweeted just one thing about UWE someone ( Jerry Hicks) wrote. " @official-BRFC the UWE dream is dead. Long live the (next) dream. Memorial or whatever. #utg" Why would Wael retweet that anyway, wasn't Jerry Hicks taking the p out of him? As I asked before on the thread has anybody seen Gashead1981 conversation before it's accepted Wael actually said that about the UWE being too far out of town/what context was it said? No idea but he did.
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 8, 2017 14:36:08 GMT
Billiricay manager on talksport earlier saying that communication is the major thing for him and that the fans are everything, and every club should remember that, quite refreshing to hear, hope we improve ours, it's like a media blackout similar to WW2.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Aug 8, 2017 15:15:35 GMT
Was really hoping for a club statement to re-assure us that plans were in place for an alternative but to liken our club to the 'Crazy Gang' was deflating and suggests that the board lack the ambition we hoped they'display with a planned itinerary.Along with Wimbledon,Barnet and Accrington's grounds think it's safe to say ours is in the bottom 4.Surely the owners want more so please tell us Gentlemen what your vision is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 16:24:53 GMT
Was really hoping for a club statement to re-assure us that plans were in place for an alternative but to liken our club to the 'Crazy Gang' was deflating and suggests that the board lack the ambition we hoped they'display with a planned itinerary.Along with Wimbledon,Barnet and Accrington's grounds think it's safe to say ours is in the bottom 4.Surely the owners want more so please tell us Gentlemen what your vision is. Frankly I haven't got a clue what vision is anymore - no more so than our current Chairman. Liike many on here I've had lots of hopes and dreams over the last 60 years and most have been dashed. I've given up now - I'll buy my season ticket every year and what will be will be. To say I'm disappointed now is an understatement - and for that ffffing Chairman to liken our future to the Crazy Gang with all the ridicule that's associated with that club now is one bitter pill too many for me to stomach as far as he's concerned. Not one single stand that has run the length of the pitch has been built for our club since the 1920's - nearly 100 years ffs. Sorry I can't be more positive staffordshiregas - rant over.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 8, 2017 16:48:17 GMT
Why would Wael retweet that anyway, wasn't Jerry Hicks taking the p out of him? As I asked before on the thread has anybody seen Gashead1981 conversation before it's accepted Wael actually said that about the UWE being too far out of town/what context was it said? No idea but he did. Ping me your mobile number and I'll screen shot you the conversation
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