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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 9:43:35 GMT
Just said it on the other thread. It would have to be AG! No other option for a suitable ground share. Can't see Landsdown agreeing to that and a three team ground share big be difficult logistically.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 9:44:54 GMT
this is my forum missed 2 games last season the AQ'S are thinking of changing are name did you know that henbury.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 9:45:28 GMT
Just said it on the other thread. It would have to be AG! No other option for a suitable ground share. Can't see Landsdown agreeing to that and a three team ground share big be difficult logistically. AG is a non-starter. They refused this before, which is why Rovers were looking to ground-share at Cheltenham....remember? The rosy cheeked fecker will not do anything to help Rovers. We can use the Snake as an example!
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2017 9:50:12 GMT
Which is something like Tottenham are doing? But how much is basically building a new stadium in a season or two going to cost, and if Dunford/Higgs couldn't make it pay when it's built how are DS going to achieve that?
Has anybody any idea where FGR are with their new stadium plans is ground sharing with them there a possibility by the time we get pp, whilst we then rebuild the Mem. Although from waht SH said on Monday it sounds like a stand by stand approach was being considered but I assume that's before we've had our team of 12(!) look at the project?
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2017 9:50:57 GMT
Can't see Landsdown agreeing to that and a three team ground share big be difficult logistically. AG is a non-starter. They refused this before, which is why Rovers were looking to ground-share at Cheltenham....remember? The rosy cheeked fecker will not do anything to help Rovers. We can use the Snake as an example! Plus Bristol RFU now play there anyway
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 9, 2017 9:53:15 GMT
this is my forum missed 2 games last season the AQ'S are thinking of changing are name did you know that henbury. I think you need to seek help with your issues
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 9:59:13 GMT
Got any phone numbers I can ring?
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Post by womble on Aug 9, 2017 10:00:44 GMT
As a comparison - Ashton Gate is 4 Ha (9.9 acres) and the Mem is 3.592 Ha (8.8 acres). We also have the disadvantage of being surrounded closely an all four side by housing, whereas City could put their big stand with sports bar etc. backing onto a main road with no housing to worry about.
If (and I think it's a big if) we redevelop the Mem, then its unlikely to be cheaper then UWE and will face restrictions on outside of football usage, because of the close proximity of the residents. If they can come up with an acceptable scheme that makes money, then the ALQs will have done very well.
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Post by Mr Pond on Aug 9, 2017 10:00:53 GMT
I heard a rumor last night that Sainsburys have approached us wanting to build and under ground carpark and store with our stadium on top!! You heard it here first!
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 9, 2017 10:02:57 GMT
As our 6 fingered neighbours (and others) have shown it s possible to "stay and play" if the planning and forethought is right. Why would we need to move out? "stay and play" is only possible if you've got the money to do it. No need to move out if the revamp is just a lick of paint and a couple more awnings put up. True. So - why all the speculation on here about moving?? Not needed and just creates more heat than light I feel. But my view - if this "revamp with 💰 " is the way we are going - minimum 3 years before a JCB hits The Mem.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 9, 2017 10:06:18 GMT
Would we be able to move the pitch and still remain at The Mem though? I don't think ground sharing is an option. Well, that was my point. If, say, we can build a 8,000-er stand in the car park over the course of a season, then all we would have to do during the off-season is flatten the Dribuild and a bit of the north stand, and put a ready-grown pitch in. It would only have to survive one season. Good point. The pitch at the millennium stadium is grown on boards that they can wheel in and out at leisure if they need to use the hard standing for other events such as concerts. Could be a very viable option.
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Post by meader on Aug 9, 2017 10:10:29 GMT
Been reading most of the comments on here and I think the best way forward is to rebuild the Mem Stand by Stand. Ground Sharing is not an option, as this will greatly reduce the amount of income coming into the football club. Apart from tickets sales, the biggest income on match days is from the Bars. OK, you might say that there's not bar staff to pay when rebuilding as one entity. Then again you have a hospitality. Another source of income which the club will lose. So, the best way forward is to start with the "Centenary Stand", which was build incorrectly by Bristol Rugby Club. In its place, you should be able to build at least a 6,000/7000 capacity stand, going the whole width of the pitch. The next stand to be rebuild should be the new West Stand. Hopefully, that stand can be build the whole width of the pitch as well. The reason why it's built like it is, is because part of the planning agreement was that it had to be the same size as the old wooded stand it replaced. The new stand should accommendate up to 4/5,000 Once those 2 stands are rebuilt, work should start on developing the "Home" end. With safe standing now appearing to be coming back into football, we can keep some of the terracing and build a stand behind/over the terrace. Total capacity of this area could be at least 5/6,000 Once all that has been done, work can start on the "Tent End" of the ground, which some say could be a challenge due to the big drop behind the stand. If built correctly, this could hold 2,000. There you have it - a new stadium with a minimum capacity of 17,000 and maximum of 20,000. Is this achievable? I leave it to you to discuss!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 10:13:29 GMT
Been reading most of the comments on here and I think the best way forward is to rebuild the Mem Stand by Stand. Ground Sharing is not an option, as this will greatly reduce the amount of income coming into the football club. Apart from tickets sales, the biggest income on match days is from the Bars. OK, you might say that there's not bar staff to pay when rebuilding as one entity. Then again you have a hospitality. Another source of income which the club will lose. So, the best way forward is to start with the "Centenary Stand", which was build incorrectly by Bristol Rugby Club. In its place, you should be able to build at least a 6,000/7000 capacity stand, going the whole width of the pitch. The next stand to be rebuild should be the new West Stand. Hopefully, that stand can be build the whole width of the pitch as well. The reason why it's built like it is, is because part of the planning agreement was that it had to be the same size as the old wooded stand it replaced. The new stand should accommendate up to 4/5,000 Once those 2 stands are rebuilt, work should start on developing the "Home" end. With safe standing now appearing to be coming back into football, we can keep some of the terracing and build a stand behind/over the terrace. Total capacity of this area could be at least 5/6,000 Once all that has been done, work can start on the "Tent End" of the ground, which some say could be a challenge due to the big drop behind the stand. If built correctly, this could hold 2,000. There you have it - a new stadium with a minimum capacity of 17,000 and maximum of 20,000. Is this achievable? I leave it to you to discuss! Anything is achievable, it just depends on how much money they have available to spend.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 10:13:50 GMT
I may be talking out of turn here but I am certain that the Al Quadi family will have studied, planned and sorted out all the possibilities of how the Mem will be developed. They will also know how they will get the best financial return from the new stadium. They aren't billionaires because they found their money down the back of the sofa! Maybe they are keeping their plans close to their chest because it is all part of the big bluff to UWE. I genuinely believe that UWE thought they were dealing with gullible, rich foreigners who UWE would be able to pull the wool over their eyes and basically rip them off. Maybe now they are in a state of panic and Wael announcing alternative plans is just a ruse to make UWE think they are about to miss out on a fantastic opportunity to have A1 facilities on their campsite. With no new stadium they are left with nothing. Yes, maybe they could put houses on the land and make some money that way but that is short sighted and in the long run will not benefit the campus. Build a state of the art stadium with loads of facilities for their students to use for many years is a far better option. I may be wrong but I am not 100% sure that the UWE stadium is dead in the water....yet! The family have been damned good to us and haven't let us down yet and I don't see why they would in the future. Let's be patient and see what happens. In the mean time I am going to carry on with a far more important task and that is to support the Gas no matter where they play.COYB UTG No study of options, feasibility or plans currently exist but a team of consultants with stadium build experience to be re-engaged. What are the plans to boost the financial return from facilities? Will have to wait for a feasibility study to convince investors and we fans will not see it for sure. No evidence whatsoever to suggest Al Qadis are billionaires and there never has been. They are wealthy but not in the super-rich league. They don't have £30 to £40 million plus spare in ready cash to rebuild the Mem themselves and even if they did I don't think they would take the risk. So, who will pay for this development? No money from sale of Mem and third party investors lined up for UWE will need to be convinced about the viability of an entirely new scheme. UWE stadium as our home is dead...not a bluff to get better deal. Listen to what the man you trust actual said. Fans have been patient ( some for a lifetime) but some bad feeling already developing...even with a clear run it's four or five years of disruption, reduced capacity or being nomads again for a season or two. Hard to be that optimistic at present but time is a great healer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 10:21:20 GMT
this is my forum missed 2 games last season the AQ'S are thinking of changing are name did you know that henbury. Oh dear or dear, I think the pressure is beginning to take it toll.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 9, 2017 10:52:01 GMT
Been reading most of the comments on here and I think the best way forward is to rebuild the Mem Stand by Stand. Ground Sharing is not an option, as this will greatly reduce the amount of income coming into the football club. Apart from tickets sales, the biggest income on match days is from the Bars. OK, you might say that there's not bar staff to pay when rebuilding as one entity. Then again you have a hospitality. Another source of income which the club will lose. So, the best way forward is to start with the "Centenary Stand", which was build incorrectly by Bristol Rugby Club. In its place, you should be able to build at least a 6,000/7000 capacity stand, going the whole width of the pitch. The next stand to be rebuild should be the new West Stand. Hopefully, that stand can be build the whole width of the pitch as well. The reason why it's built like it is, is because part of the planning agreement was that it had to be the same size as the old wooded stand it replaced. The new stand should accommendate up to 4/5,000 Once those 2 stands are rebuilt, work should start on developing the "Home" end. With safe standing now appearing to be coming back into football, we can keep some of the terracing and build a stand behind/over the terrace. Total capacity of this area could be at least 5/6,000 Once all that has been done, work can start on the "Tent End" of the ground, which some say could be a challenge due to the big drop behind the stand. If built correctly, this could hold 2,000. There you have it - a new stadium with a minimum capacity of 17,000 and maximum of 20,000. Is this achievable? I leave it to you to discuss! If you did that, istm you'd have to shift everything about 10 metres up the hill, to give room for the south stand. But there's plenty of room behind the North Stand for that.
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Post by gaelgas on Aug 9, 2017 11:30:33 GMT
Flatten East side,re-orientate pitch 90 degrees stick a muckle big temporary stand down the south side and a smaller one in North East corner, build new east stand. Stage two, flatten North side build new main stand down north side of ground. Stage three, flatten West end of ground build new stand similar to east stand.Stage 4 remove temporary stand from South side and replace with permanent stand similar to North Stand. Stage 5 fill in corners as required.
Should mean capacity will never drop below current capacity as long as temporary south stand is big enough. Fulham's temporary stand holds 7,500 and that's just behind the goal not along the side.
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 9, 2017 11:33:02 GMT
Been reading most of the comments on here and I think the best way forward is to rebuild the Mem Stand by Stand. Ground Sharing is not an option, as this will greatly reduce the amount of income coming into the football club. Apart from tickets sales, the biggest income on match days is from the Bars. OK, you might say that there's not bar staff to pay when rebuilding as one entity. Then again you have a hospitality. Another source of income which the club will lose. So, the best way forward is to start with the "Centenary Stand", which was build incorrectly by Bristol Rugby Club. In its place, you should be able to build at least a 6,000/7000 capacity stand, going the whole width of the pitch. The next stand to be rebuild should be the new West Stand. Hopefully, that stand can be build the whole width of the pitch as well. The reason why it's built like it is, is because part of the planning agreement was that it had to be the same size as the old wooded stand it replaced. The new stand should accommendate up to 4/5,000 Once those 2 stands are rebuilt, work should start on developing the "Home" end. With safe standing now appearing to be coming back into football, we can keep some of the terracing and build a stand behind/over the terrace. Total capacity of this area could be at least 5/6,000 Once all that has been done, work can start on the "Tent End" of the ground, which some say could be a challenge due to the big drop behind the stand. If built correctly, this could hold 2,000. There you have it - a new stadium with a minimum capacity of 17,000 and maximum of 20,000. Is this achievable? I leave it to you to discuss! If you did that, istm you'd have to shift everything about 10 metres up the hill, to give room for the south stand. But there's plenty of room behind the North Stand for that. The East (Centenary) Stand is a major source of income for matchday hospitality, the Dribuild suite is virtually sold out/full every home game. So if you demolish that first, where do you put the paying punters? IMO you could build a marquee in the car park to carry on this practice, but the other draw for those packages is the view from those boxes at the back of the stand. Not attacking your ideas, just playing devils advocate. I think we all need to calm down and wait for the proposal to hit the table. I was also told there is an embryonic protest group alreading forming to protest
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Post by Marshy on Aug 9, 2017 11:36:26 GMT
If you did that, istm you'd have to shift everything about 10 metres up the hill, to give room for the south stand. But there's plenty of room behind the North Stand for that. The East (Centenary) Stand is a major source of income for matchday hospitality, the Dribuild suite is virtually sold out/full every home game. So if you demolish that first, where do you put the paying punters? IMO you could build a marquee in the car park to carry on this practice, but the other draw for those packages is the view from those boxes at the back of the stand. Not attacking your ideas, just playing devils advocate. I think we all need to calm down and wait for the proposal to hit the table. I was also told there is an embryonic protest group alreading forming to protest That will be the tree hugging lesbians again then?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 11:39:10 GMT
The East (Centenary) Stand is a major source of income for matchday hospitality, the Dribuild suite is virtually sold out/full every home game. So if you demolish that first, where do you put the paying punters? IMO you could build a marquee in the car park to carry on this practice, but the other draw for those packages is the view from those boxes at the back of the stand. Not attacking your ideas, just playing devils advocate. I think we all need to calm down and wait for the proposal to hit the table. I was also told there is an embryonic protest group alreading forming to protest That will be the tree hugging lesbians again then? Pictures, or it ain't real.
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