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Post by pirate49 on Aug 9, 2017 8:12:56 GMT
IF (and for me it's still an 'if') the Mem is to be developed how best to go about it. Piecemeal will take ages and will mean limited attendances. Which bit to knock down first? I still think our owners moved in to make money (investment opportunity); and would they see much return if we develop bit by bit? OR Get the bulldozers in, knock the whole bluddy lot down and build a new stadium. Of course that would mean a ground share. Now who's got a nice stadium that we could borrow every other week?  |
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Post by legas on Aug 9, 2017 8:14:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 8:20:24 GMT
Just said it on the other thread.
It would have to be AG!
No other option for a suitable ground share.
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Post by drasim on Aug 9, 2017 8:24:06 GMT
For me it would have to be a groundshare, knock the lot down and start again.
It's definitely do-able with the amount of land to have a nice enough stadium, albeit with no parking.
If it was done in stages with limited attendances, for me it would suggest it is a temporary solution with a longer term plan for another site.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 9, 2017 8:29:00 GMT
Just said it on the other thread. It would have to be AG! No other option for a suitable ground share. I guess after that Swindon with capacity. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 9, 2017 8:30:24 GMT
Apart from the obvious one which I think we can rule out for several reasons, I can't think of anywhere practical so for me it has to be piecemeal.
Build a new stand in the car park during the season then demolish the Centenary Stand during the close season and move the pitch. Repeat over the next one or two seasons for the other sides. Alternatively do the Tent End first.
Whatever way, it will be costly, disruptive and take time. It will also be tight and any timescale overruns for each section will have a knock on effect.
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 9, 2017 8:32:20 GMT
For me it would have to be a groundshare, knock the lot down and start again. It's definitely do-able with the amount of land to have a nice enough stadium, albeit with no parking. If it was done in stages with limited attendances, for me it would suggest it is a temporary solution with a longer term plan for another site. Strewth! Two stadiums??!!. Struggling to do one  |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 9, 2017 8:32:30 GMT
Just said it on the other thread. It would have to be AG! No other option for a suitable ground share. I will never go the that sh** house ever i will follow Rovers on Ifollow for a few years |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 8:32:54 GMT
NIMBYS will never allow a completely new stadium. Unfortunately.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Aug 9, 2017 8:33:17 GMT
Forest green.
Vege debate every week.
I would like us to move out then return to a new stadium.
I think it would be such a big occasion and a cracking atmosphere.
The end of a very very long road that would need a special day of celebration.
Good publicity.
Don't think we would be able to do that if we open stand by stand.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 9, 2017 8:36:06 GMT
The doom merchants on here will say flatten it and WAQ will have a nice green field site to sell. Easy way to get your money back and we will be left without a stadium.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 9, 2017 8:38:18 GMT
Don't mind either way. I trust them to make the right decision.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 8:38:43 GMT
Forest green. Vege debate every week. I would like us to move out then return to a new stadium. I think it would be such a big occasion and a cracking atmosphere. The end of a very very long road that would need a special day of celebration. Good publicity. Don't think we would be able to do that if we open stand by stand. I don't think anything will happen Firstly because there won't be investors willing to back it because there will be no way any benefits to them for a redeveloped mem And secondly if the above happened the Al qadis won't have the will to putilise that sort of money up to pay for it |
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 9, 2017 8:40:16 GMT
Apart from the obvious one which I think we can rule out for several reasons, I can't think of anywhere practical so for me it has to be piecemeal. Build a new stand in the car park during the season then demolish the Centenary Stand during the close season and move the pitch. Repeat over the next one or two seasons for the other sides. Alternatively do the Tent End first. Whatever way, it will be costly, disruptive and take time. It will also be tight and any timescale overruns for each section will have a knock on effect. Nowhere near enough time in a close season to do all that in my view. Just digging up the old pitch, relaying a new one with drainage etc from scratch and getting it growing properly will take more than that time I would suggest. Before you factor in the time spent previously tackling the stand demolition and I would think they are mutually exclusive from a H and S perspective. So would extend the time required. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 9, 2017 8:40:50 GMT
Forest green. Vege debate every week. I would like us to move out then return to a new stadium. I think it would be such a big occasion and a cracking atmosphere. The end of a very very long road that would need a special day of celebration. Good publicity. Don't think we would be able to do that if we open stand by stand. I don't think anything will happen Firstly because there won't be investors willing to back it because there will be no way any benefits to them for a redeveloped mem And secondly if the above happened the Al qadis won't have the will to putilise that sort of money up to pay for it Time to call the administrators in then as we still have some assets. Go play is Bath and start again in the southern leagues......... Yee of little faith |
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 9, 2017 8:44:42 GMT
Forest green. Vege debate every week. I would like us to move out then return to a new stadium. I think it would be such a big occasion and a cracking atmosphere. The end of a very very long road that would need a special day of celebration. Good publicity. Don't think we would be able to do that if we open stand by stand. I don't think anything will happen Firstly because there won't be investors willing to back it because there will be no way any benefits to them for a redeveloped mem And secondly if the above happened the Al qadis won't have the will to putilise that sort of money up to pay for it You state that on not seeing any plans, any feasibility study results and not any planning permission entered. Wael has stated they aren't looking to back out of the club. Just take a look at the Land plot size, compare it to other stadiums in the Championship and some Premier league grounds and then come back and say the land plot isn't big enough for a feasible stadium investment. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 9, 2017 8:45:50 GMT
Apart from the obvious one which I think we can rule out for several reasons, I can't think of anywhere practical so for me it has to be piecemeal. Build a new stand in the car park during the season then demolish the Centenary Stand during the close season and move the pitch. Repeat over the next one or two seasons for the other sides. Alternatively do the Tent End first. Whatever way, it will be costly, disruptive and take time. It will also be tight and any timescale overruns for each section will have a knock on effect. Nowhere near enough time in a close season to do all that in my view. Just digging up the old pitch, relaying a new one with drainage etc from scratch and getting it growing properly will take more than that time I would suggest. Before you factor in the time spent previously tackling the stand demolition and I would think they are mutually exclusive from a H and S perspective. So would extend the time required. That's what I thought as I was typing, but thought I would put it out there anyway. It is definitely a roller coaster ride being a Rovers fan isn't it?!! |
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Post by titchthephot on Aug 9, 2017 8:46:23 GMT
I may be talking out of turn here but I am certain that the Al Quadi family will have studied, planned and sorted out all the possibilities of how the Mem will be developed. They will also know how they will get the best financial return from the new stadium. They aren't billionaires because they found their money down the back of the sofa! Maybe they are keeping their plans close to their chest because it is all part of the big bluff to UWE. I genuinely believe that UWE thought they were dealing with gullible, rich foreigners who UWE would be able to pull the wool over their eyes and basically rip them off. Maybe now they are in a state of panic and Wael announcing alternative plans is just a ruse to make UWE think they are about to miss out on a fantastic opportunity to have A1 facilities on their campsite. With no new stadium they are left with nothing. Yes, maybe they could put houses on the land and make some money that way but that is short sighted and in the long run will not benefit the campus. Build a state of the art stadium with loads of facilities for their students to use for many years is a far better option. I may be wrong but I am not 100% sure that the UWE stadium is dead in the water....yet! The family have been damned good to us and haven't let us down yet and I don't see why they would in the future. Let's be patient and see what happens. In the mean time I am going to carry on with a far more important task and that is to support the Gas no matter where they play.COYB UTG
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 9, 2017 8:46:50 GMT
Although I do think that a development of the mem will need us to go and play somewhere and I can't think for one minute we will play at Ashton Gate.
I could see us approaching FGR or Cheltenham for a temporary home if they will be willing to discuss. The financial benefits for both those clubs would outweigh any negatives of them saying no IMO.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Aug 9, 2017 8:48:01 GMT
Does the pitch need to be moved? In my opinion it does.
Just had a look on google maps and there's very little space behind both the West and Sound Stands. It would make sense for the East Stand to be redeveloped first if we're doing it in sections.
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