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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 21:45:06 GMT
There are so many variables it is really pointless to speculate how to redevelop but here goes. Ground sharing:- Aston Gate is not a option what with Bristol Rugby playing there. So option is for Bristol Rugby to take up the UWE option and let the Gas ground share at AG for 1 or 2 seasons. Mem then bulldozed and redeveloped with all singing and dancing facilities. Not going to happen is it? Piecemeal redevelopment:- FA rules:- The length of a pitch must be between 100 yards (90m) and 130 yards (120m) and the width not less than 50 yards (45m) and not more than 100 yards (90m). The mem pitch is in the wrong orientation for one side at a time rebuild IMO for the best layout without knowing what is to be built besides football viewing stands. Wael has or will need a feasibility study for his other than football plans I presume? He has stated he has already got an expert design team who have already redeveloped 12 grounds. If the South Stand (tent) is redeveloped first, roughly where it is now the facts are The Mem pitch is 101m long 68m wide with the minimum FA pitch 90m. Therefore an additional 10m is available for this stands depth so assuming it needs to be along the side of the pitch not on the end it seems possible to construct this during the season without much reduced capacity. Once built the east stand could be demolished and pitch switched 90 degrees without lost of the centenary stand and changing rooms and the home end could be temporary lengthened to provide additional standing area until the new East stand is rebuilt. An alternative to this would be turn pitch 90 degrees but keep every thing as is to start. Then close the car park completely and build a new east stand there. Next demolish the existing east stand in close season turn pitch utilising temporary terracing each side until each can one by one be developed. If you recall Higgs said his proposal was either stay put take 3 years or move out and take 18 months. No method statement was ever made public as to how his 3 year plan was to be undertaken tmk Not ground share at UWE then ?
Chelsea will be having three basement levels and five above ground levels at their new stadium. Perhaps parking under the stands is an option ? two parking levels...enter at street level...Alton road for example.
The 3 year plan..who knows ! expect it was build in the carpark first ,with a demolished east side of ground with temp seating along the length to comply with the minimum seats allowed at stadia. Once the new east stand is built the pitch needs moving and all other stands demolishing. Build a new west stand whilst have temp tents at north and south ends. finally build remaining stands. should be able to maintain a 6-9000 capacity throughout. This was easier when rovers average crowds were lower
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 9, 2017 22:05:07 GMT
Can you explain to me where I am going to safely park my expensive German car? At home. You can get the bus to the ground.
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Post by Thatslife on Aug 10, 2017 10:53:20 GMT
Can you explain to me where I am going to safely park my expensive German car? At home. You can get the bus to the ground. You can park you very expensive German car next to my very expensive Swedish one, only place close enough would be Horfield Common, it would make a great car park, just need a bit of tarmac here and there or those removable grid type things. I have never seen anybody exercising their commoners rights of grazing a horse, a cow and a yearling and maybe a goat...........ever Now that would really upset Ms Radice
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 10, 2017 11:23:52 GMT
At home. You can get the bus to the ground. You can park you very expensive German car next to my very expensive Swedish one, only place close enough would be Horfield Common, it would make a great car park, just need a bit of tarmac here and there or those removable grid type things. I have never seen anybody exercising their commoners rights of grazing a horse, a cow and a yearling and maybe a goat...........ever Now that would really upset Ms Radice Surely after all their protestations about the Mem remaining as a sporting venue they should be fully supporting this venture, potentially larger footfall in the local shops/pubs and restaurants supporting the local economy All pie in the sky I know, the proffessional protesters will be out in the hundreds dozens single numbers again.
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Post by gaslife on Aug 10, 2017 11:31:23 GMT
Can you explain to me where I am going to safely park my expensive German car? At home. You can get the bus to the ground. Not worth the bother, even if it was possible. There's Sky Sports, BT Sport, even iFollow now. Live football including Rovers, in the comfort of home wherever you live. Why bother with the hassle and inconvenience of getting to Horfield? No worries, a revamped claustrophobic stadium with no provision for those of us who prefer or have to drive is bound to be popular with a few dedicated locals. The rest of us will easily find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon.
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 10, 2017 11:56:30 GMT
At home. You can get the bus to the ground. Not worth the bother, even if it was possible. There's Sky Sports, BT Sport, even iFollow now. Live football including Rovers, in the comfort of home wherever you live. Why bother with the hassle and inconvenience of getting to Horfield? No worries, a revamped claustrophobic stadium with no provision for those of us who prefer or have to drive is bound to be popular with a few dedicated locals. The rest of us will easily find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. There are parking opportunities close to the stadium, I always used to drive on a Tuesday night. I now walk from the Bristol Business Park near UWE, brisk walk taking approxiamately 1 hour. I can then choose to drink either inside or outside of the stadium. There are buses heading back to the darkside after the game so all is not lost. Saturdays; head over on the bus to the Annexe, spot of lunch and a couple of libations. Public transport is certainly doable or you arrive slightly earlier to find a spot closer to the ground.
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Post by baggins on Aug 10, 2017 12:09:58 GMT
Not worth the bother, even if it was possible. There's Sky Sports, BT Sport, even iFollow now. Live football including Rovers, in the comfort of home wherever you live. Why bother with the hassle and inconvenience of getting to Horfield? No worries, a revamped claustrophobic stadium with no provision for those of us who prefer or have to drive is bound to be popular with a few dedicated locals. The rest of us will easily find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. There are parking opportunities close to the stadium, I always used to drive on a Tuesday night. I now walk from the Bristol Business Park near UWE, brisk walk taking approxiamately 1 hour. I can then choose to drink either inside or outside of the stadium. There are buses heading back to the darkside after the game so all is not lost. Saturdays; head over on the bus to the Annexe, spot of lunch and a couple of libations. Public transport is certainly doable or you arrive slightly earlier to find a spot closer to the ground. An hour walk? I don't think I've ever done that in my life!
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 10, 2017 12:21:18 GMT
At the end of the day, where there's a will there's a way. Regardless of transport issues, if you want to go to the game you will, if you can't be bothered then you won't
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Post by aghast on Aug 10, 2017 13:35:28 GMT
There are parking opportunities close to the stadium, I always used to drive on a Tuesday night. I now walk from the Bristol Business Park near UWE, brisk walk taking approxiamately 1 hour. I can then choose to drink either inside or outside of the stadium. There are buses heading back to the darkside after the game so all is not lost. Saturdays; head over on the bus to the Annexe, spot of lunch and a couple of libations. Public transport is certainly doable or you arrive slightly earlier to find a spot closer to the ground. An hour walk? I don't think I've ever done that in my life! Where does Parker leave the limo while the match is on?
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Post by inee on Aug 11, 2017 21:48:59 GMT
Just said it on the other thread. It would have to be AG! No other option for a suitable ground share. nope ,nadda,never, i'm sure many of us wouldn't go there, i'd rather watch us on the downs than there, thats more snakey than taylor that is
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Post by Malvern Gas on Aug 11, 2017 23:46:44 GMT
Stand-by-stand redevelopment please. Not keen on a groundshare.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Aug 12, 2017 1:54:49 GMT
There would be an excellent sense of full circle being completed if we could groundshare at Twerton whilst the new Al Qadi Dome was constructed.
We'd probably need to find a couple of teds with a jerry can if we wanted to go the full experience though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 7:06:11 GMT
Just said it on the other thread. It would have to be AG! No other option for a suitable ground share. nope ,nadda,never, i'm sure many of us wouldn't go there, i'd rather watch us on the downs than there, thats more snakey than taylor that is On a serious note if we had to move out I would suggest the likes of Twerton would not be suitable. Why? Because the capacity would not cater for our present support and would lead to loads of gasheads unable to attend and a serious hit on our income. At least the likes of AG could cope quite easily with whatever our attendance was. I know it's not likely to happen but if it did I for one would support my team there like I suspect the vast majority would. UTG!
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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 12, 2017 7:23:05 GMT
Flatten and ground share with Bath Rugby
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 12, 2017 7:32:50 GMT
Flatten and ground share with Bath Rugby Bath play on land controlled by the Recreation Ground Trust for the use of the public. And by public, they mean middle class Bathonians. There's no way they would tolerate football fans on it, let alone Bristolians.
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 12, 2017 7:50:49 GMT
At home. You can get the bus to the ground. Not worth the bother, even if it was possible. There's Sky Sports, BT Sport, even iFollow now. Live football including Rovers, in the comfort of home wherever you live. Why bother with the hassle and inconvenience of getting to Horfield? No worries, a revamped claustrophobic stadium with no provision for those of us who prefer or have to drive is bound to be popular with a few dedicated locals. The rest of us will easily find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. I've never failed to find a parking space within a ten minute walk of the Mem, even on busy games and when I've been running late. But look at most of the larger grounds in this country - there are few which can guarantee parking for crowds much bigger than we'll ever get at the Mem. Rovers need to to include some improved transport planning with any proposed development, which should definitely include a park and ride provision and I would suggest there could be a number of company car parks, unused at weekends or evenings, that could be put into park and ride provision. Even Forest Green managed that very well. I don't buy the argument that any supporter is going to be put off by having to turn up a little earlier, or park a little further away.
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 12, 2017 7:56:54 GMT
Flatten and ground share with Bath Rugby If it wasn't green belt land, a new, joint stadium development halfway between Bristol and Bath might suit both. Even though some of the Rugby clubs have acted as franchises and moved many miles from their original base, I can't see Bath wanting to move to Bristol. Nor for that matter, could we tolerate (another) permanent move to Bath.
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 12, 2017 8:32:56 GMT
Not worth the bother, even if it was possible. There's Sky Sports, BT Sport, even iFollow now. Live football including Rovers, in the comfort of home wherever you live. Why bother with the hassle and inconvenience of getting to Horfield? No worries, a revamped claustrophobic stadium with no provision for those of us who prefer or have to drive is bound to be popular with a few dedicated locals. The rest of us will easily find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. I've never failed to find a parking space within a ten minute walk of the Mem, even on busy games and when I've been running late. But look at most of the larger grounds in this country - there are few which can guarantee parking for crowds much bigger than we'll ever get at the Mem. Rovers need to to include some improved transport planning with any proposed development, which should definitely include a park and ride provision and I would suggest there could be a number of company car parks, unused at weekends or evenings, that could be put into park and ride provision. Even Forest Green managed that very well. I don't buy the argument that any supporter is going to be put off by having to turn up a little earlier, or park a little further away. I think I recall parking in Stothert and Pitt at some point during our Twerton days? But not sure there is anything like that around the Mem though?
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Post by Captain Jayho on Aug 12, 2017 10:15:13 GMT
Ah the Twerton glory years. Once I was old enough to drive I used to park along Lower Bristol Road for free. Wasn't exactly free in the end though as I had my car window put in and my crappy little car stereo stolen along with about 20 others along that stretch several times...
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 12, 2017 10:47:32 GMT
Ah the Twerton glory years. Once I was old enough to drive I used to park along Lower Bristol Road for free. Wasn't exactly free in the end though as I had my car window put in and my crappy little car stereo stolen along with about 20 others along that stretch several times... Likely to be Teds with their petrol cans.
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