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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 14:49:06 GMT
Be lucky to get 200k with contract length 10 years ago maybe. Short contract or not, he's worth a lot more than that.
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Post by markczgas on Aug 28, 2017 16:59:26 GMT
Answer to OP , as much as another club is prepared to offer and we are willing to accept. boring answer
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 17:11:14 GMT
Less than Billy Bodin.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 17:53:30 GMT
In all likelihood, the interested clubs will let him stay with us this year, let their interest be known to unsettle him and start on a pre contract agreement in January, when it becomes apparent he won't sign a new contract with us. This would mean he would leave the club for absoulutely nothing next summer. I would like to think he would sign a new contract so we could sell him for a fair bit of money but as Taylor showed us there is not a lot of loyalty in modern football. This is exactly why clubs try to sell quality players who will not extend their contracts. Unfortunately if he's not willing to sign an extension then I'd prefer to invite offers rather than being stung like we were with MT.
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Post by 84gas on Aug 28, 2017 17:56:30 GMT
Be lucky to get 200k with contract length 10 years ago maybe. Short contract or not, he's worth a lot more than that. I don't agree, we will see, or not i hope
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Post by Centenary Gas on Aug 28, 2017 18:23:09 GMT
Considering he is hoping to get a move to the Championship this summer and hasn't yet signed a deal, makes it very unlikely we will be able to sign him up IMO.
Line a replacement up (2-500k from league two?) for January and sell him then.
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 28, 2017 19:02:13 GMT
sadly no-one will bid over £500,000-ish for him because there hasn't been much hype over him and he isn't some ex-child prodigy / ex-PL academy product / has funny hair or a funny name. Bonkers but true. Higher clubs still have so much money and so little real analysis of the lower divisions that they do often pay over the odds for hyped up players and miss far cheaper prospects. Football is a funny old game. Some players go for more than their longer-term ability/prospects shows would be a fair figure (Marcus browning, Gareth Taylor-maybe, Will Hoskins, snake) and others go for far less than they really 'should' have been (cureton, lambo, yates, carayol). I think that's why Gasheads could just about handle martyn, roberts, hayles etc leaving because of the high amounts (fair-ish amounts...) they went for. doesnt matter if we got £5 or £5m it wouldn't be spent on the team I asked Bradshaw on the Copenhagen tour years ago what happened to Roberts money he said oh we had overheads to pay etc They are full of sh**e and don't give a sh** about the supporters,I hope wael is different
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 28, 2017 19:02:40 GMT
In all likelihood, the interested clubs will let him stay with us this year, let their interest be known to unsettle him and start on a pre contract agreement in January, when it becomes apparent he won't sign a new contract with us. This would mean he would leave the club for absoulutely nothing next summer. I would like to think he would sign a new contract so we could sell him for a fair bit of money but as Taylor showed us there is not a lot of loyalty in modern football. This is exactly why clubs try to sell quality players who will not extend their contracts. Unfortunately if he's not willing to sign an extension then I'd prefer to invite offers rather than being stung like we were with MT. Looking back to Jan 2016, knowing now that we got promoted, would you have sold Snakey for his full worth then, not knowing where we would have finished in that case? istm losing some (or even all) of his transfer value but getting promotion was the right decision, with hindsight.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 28, 2017 19:09:15 GMT
Release clause not outstanding, Waq will probably bite off the hand of anybody who offers anything near £1M
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 28, 2017 19:39:49 GMT
Release clause not outstanding, Waq will probably bite off the hand of anybody who offers anything near £1M That would be a disgrace, he is very talented and almost irreplaceable. I would want Corey Whitely and David Wheeler if he went, and Craig Noone.
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Post by pirate on Aug 28, 2017 19:45:36 GMT
Release clause not outstanding, Waq will probably bite off the hand of anybody who offers anything near £1M That would be a disgrace, he is very talented and almost irreplaceable. I would want Corey Whitely and David Wheeler if he went, and Craig Noone. As much as I'd love Craig Noone here, his wages would be too much unfortunately. Warnock on a possible transfer return to Plymouth: "You can forget about Craig Noone. He's half your squad, his wages. I don't think you'll be paying that sort of money out, not just yet."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:12:52 GMT
Unfortunately, how much he is worth and what we will get for him are two very different figures. I'd say he's worth in excess of £1.5m, but fail to see how we can possibly get more than £250k for him when clubs know they can get him for nowt in the summer.
Yes, if he signs a contract, we could in theory get more, but why would he sign without a release clause? He's surely ambitious, why would he restrict the potential for a higher salary and a higher standard of football (both reasons sound familiar with a certain striker recently).
I just hope we don't moan at the club like some did when Matty Taylor went. Like the time he had just a year left, the club are powerless and left in Catch 22. The player holds the cards.
On the basis that he is currently under contract, I'd resist all offers under £1m and accept the fact that he may go for nothing a year from now. At least that shows some ambition of trying to get promoted while we have him.
Unfortunately, we can't have it both ways. Enjoy him while he's here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:26:43 GMT
He ain't worth a lot because he's injury prone and always on the water so why would any club want to buy him. He's inconsistent drifts in and out of games it's like playing with ten men.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:40:35 GMT
This is exactly why clubs try to sell quality players who will not extend their contracts. Unfortunately if he's not willing to sign an extension then I'd prefer to invite offers rather than being stung like we were with MT. Looking back to Jan 2016, knowing now that we got promoted, would you have sold Snakey for his full worth then, not knowing where we would have finished in that case? istm losing some (or even all) of his transfer value but getting promotion was the right decision, with hindsight. Difficult one to answer . But on balance if say a £2m offer had came in yes I would have taken it and re-invested the money in the January window if I knew he was not going to sign a new contact. But as far as I'm aware no one made a realistic offer when a fee was involved. But I take your point. In retrospect it seems that he wanted the contract to run down so he would secure a 6 figure signing on fee and only re-signed for us because no big signing on fees were offered to him in the summer.
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Post by 84gas on Aug 28, 2017 20:42:08 GMT
He ain't worth a lot because he's injury prone and always on the water so why would any club want to buy him. He's inconsistent drifts in and out of games it's like playing with ten men. *Prospective bidders please read*
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Aug 28, 2017 20:56:37 GMT
I think we've got to be realistic. It's worrying that he hasn't signed a new contract. He is clearly a player with the ability to play at a higher level and it is very possible that we might lose him this window. If he wants to leave, then it's extremely likely he will leave, and arguably it would be best for the club financially if he left now.
I don't think him leaving would be a reason to judge the owners badly. He is a big asset to us, that has been known for a year or so now and it is clear that it was in our interests to tie him down to a longish contract. I'm 100% positive that we have tried our best to do exactly that. All the power is unfortunately with the player in situations like this.
Obviously I hope he stays and signs a new contract. We shall see.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 21:27:15 GMT
If BB has no contract release. If BRFC want to keep him. If another club is desperate to sign him.
£5million. Else they can wait till January and try again. They may have let the playoffs slip out of sight by then .They might be totally embroiled in a relegation dogfight by then. Their season may be dead by then.
Rovers have the upper hand. Some club might offer a poor £300,000 ...thinking they might get him for free in the summer. He might sign for someone else in the summer and you miss out. If a club really wants him ,they will have to pay up or risk not getting him at all.
Did I say £5million ? they have dithered too long its £6million now....and counting.
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Post by madridgas on Aug 28, 2017 21:55:01 GMT
Oxlade-chamberlain in the same position and still going for £30m to Chelsea. I buy the idea of close to £1m or he can stay until the end of the season.... and leave on a free.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 28, 2017 23:29:21 GMT
If he will not sign a new contract don't play him.
out of the team for 12 months may change his mind
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 23:49:17 GMT
If he will not sign a new contract don't play him. out of the team for 12 months may change his mind But he hasnt done anything wrong? The club offered him a 2 year deal and so far he has been outstanding for us during that deal.
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