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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 23, 2017 10:23:04 GMT
Not really. All the listed benefits would apply if the old competition format existed and do not justify the introduction of U23 teams. Poor effort to defend the indefensible. Henburys reasons were valid and well put. Look, I get that you don't like the competition but we are playing in it. If you feel so strongly about it why not protest somewhere where you might make a difference ? get a placard and wander around with it ? Rest assured, i will be there, contributing to the desperately needed funds and enjoying the high quality entertainment and food on offer, whilst my fellow gasheads are at home catching up with Eastenders episodes
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 10:23:32 GMT
Not really. All the listed benefits would apply if the old competition format existed and do not justify the introduction of U23 teams. Poor effort to defend the indefensible. Henburys reasons were valid and well put. Look, I get that you don't like the competition but we are playing in it. If you feel so strongly about it why not protest somewhere where you might make a difference ? get a placard and wander around with it ? But as I said, they apply to the previous format. He's yet to come up with any logical reason why including U23 teams in lower league competition would be to the long term of BRFC. Where's better to express opinion that a forum of thousands of Gasheads, many of whom will be contemplating whether to attend the game. The decision is for them to make but given the importance of this issue for the future of lower league football, it's important it's an informed one.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 23, 2017 10:26:38 GMT
Henburys reasons were valid and well put. Look, I get that you don't like the competition but we are playing in it. If you feel so strongly about it why not protest somewhere where you might make a difference ? get a placard and wander around with it ? But as I said, they apply to the previous format. He's yet to come up with any logical reason why including U23 teams in lower league competition would be to the long term of BRFC. Where's better to express opinion that a forum of thousands of Gasheads, many of whom will be contemplating whether to attend the game. The decision is for them to make but given the importance of this issue for the future of lower league football, it's important it's an informed one. what evidence to you have that the premier league want Under 23 teams in the EFL ? Don't you think that the chairpersons who voted to allow this competition will block any moves like that ? or do you think they are just as stupid as i am for supporting my team ?
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Oct 23, 2017 10:28:06 GMT
Not really. All the listed benefits would apply if the old competition format existed and do not justify the introduction of U23 teams. Poor effort to defend the indefensible. Henburys reasons were valid and well put. Look, I get that you don't like the competition but we are playing in it. If you feel so strongly about it why not protest somewhere where you might make a difference ? get a placard and wander around with it ? This is the place to at least try influence people too not attend. We should unite as gas heads and all football fans and put a end to this nonsense. Fan power not pedal power for the premier league pockets.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 23, 2017 10:30:17 GMT
Darrell's already said the competition is a farce, and the club voted against it. i voted to stay in europe but i'm all for leaving Europe now because 52% of the vote said leave. I know it will cost this country a lot of money and trade, but i will go with the majority and support my Govt. The same applies to this cup competition Except football fans didn't vote for it, football clubs did. If 72 of the biggest companies voted for Brexit, that wouldn't be a reason to support it, would it? Anyway, let's not discuss Brexit, I'm just pointing out your analogy doesn't make any sense.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 23, 2017 10:32:42 GMT
i voted to stay in europe but i'm all for leaving Europe now because 52% of the vote said leave. I know it will cost this country a lot of money and trade, but i will go with the majority and support my Govt. The same applies to this cup competition Except football fans didn't vote for it, football clubs did. If 72 of the biggest companies voted for Brexit, that wouldn't be a reason to support it, would it? Anyway, let's not discuss Brexit, I'm just pointing out your analogy doesn't make any sense. Do the chairpersons not represent the club i support.... oh hold on.... only the owners.... thy don't give a flying duck about us supporters do they.......... ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 10:36:43 GMT
But as I said, they apply to the previous format. He's yet to come up with any logical reason why including U23 teams in lower league competition would be to the long term of BRFC. Where's better to express opinion that a forum of thousands of Gasheads, many of whom will be contemplating whether to attend the game. The decision is for them to make but given the importance of this issue for the future of lower league football, it's important it's an informed one. what evidence to you have that the premier league want Under 23 teams in the EFL ? Don't you think that the chairpersons who voted to allow this competition will block any moves like that ? or do you think they are just as stupid as i am for supporting my team ? Pep calls for B teamsFA proposal for B teams
The above for starters. Plenty more evidence out there I'm sure. Many have come out stating that they would block such a move. But ultimately money talks and if the Premier League offers a good enough deal, lower league clubs would struggle to turn it down. However as Pep eludes to, the desire for Premier League clubs to enter B/U23 clubs in lower league competition is largely to play infront of healthy attendances and gain real match experience. If people withdrew their support for these games and do not attend, the match experience factor would be withdrawn thus partly removing the appeal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 10:37:43 GMT
But as I said, they apply to the previous format. He's yet to come up with any logical reason why including U23 teams in lower league competition would be to the long term of BRFC. Where's better to express opinion that a forum of thousands of Gasheads, many of whom will be contemplating whether to attend the game. The decision is for them to make but given the importance of this issue for the future of lower league football, it's important it's an informed one. what evidence to you have that the premier league want Under 23 teams in the EFL ? Don't you think that the chairpersons who voted to allow this competition will block any moves like that ? or do you think they are just as stupid as i am for supporting my team ? You've never heard of the League 3 idea? Not seen the campaigns against it? Its fairly obvious to most that the new format is a precursor to that concept being introduced in the FL. Short term £ and apathy leads to long term losses for BRFC once L3 is introduced.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 23, 2017 10:46:26 GMT
what evidence to you have that the premier league want Under 23 teams in the EFL ? Don't you think that the chairpersons who voted to allow this competition will block any moves like that ? or do you think they are just as stupid as i am for supporting my team ? You've never heard of the League 3 idea? Not seen the campaigns against it? Its fairly obvious to most that the new format is a precursor to that concept being introduced in the FL. Short term £ and apathy leads to long term losses for BRFC once L3 is introduced. and did our beloved chairpersons of the EFL vote it through ? What is going to happen is the top 6 premier league teams will breakaway from the premier league and form part of a super league with the likes of all the best teams in Europe. All the money will follow them causing the demise of the remaining premier league clubs leading them to rejoin the EFL.... Fantasy at the moment, but more chance of that happening than U23 teams joining our league..
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Post by philbemmygas on Oct 23, 2017 11:24:46 GMT
It is likely that I will attend the Mem for the West Ham game; due to a family event this weekend I am unable to watch the McFranchise game.
Therefore I will exercise my right to make a decision of my own violition without worrying about others opinions, please feel free to debate my actions with or without including me in the debate.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Oct 23, 2017 11:35:43 GMT
Henburys reasons were valid and well put. Look, I get that you don't like the competition but we are playing in it. If you feel so strongly about it why not protest somewhere where you might make a difference ? get a placard and wander around with it ? This is the place to at least try influence people too not attend. We should unite as gas heads and all football fans and put a end to this nonsense. Fan power not pedal power for the premier league pockets. This is a fans forum and a place for debate not a place to try and influence people to agree with your agenda. I want my team to win every game they play.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Oct 23, 2017 11:36:42 GMT
i voted to stay in europe but i'm all for leaving Europe now because 52% of the vote said leave. I know it will cost this country a lot of money and trade, but i will go with the majority and support my Govt. The same applies to this cup competition Except football fans didn't vote for it, football clubs did. If 72 of the biggest companies voted for Brexit, that wouldn't be a reason to support it, would it? Anyway, let's not discuss Brexit, I'm just pointing out your analogy doesn't make any sense. oh god no please don't bring politics into this as well
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Oct 23, 2017 11:37:54 GMT
Henburys reasons were valid and well put. Look, I get that you don't like the competition but we are playing in it. If you feel so strongly about it why not protest somewhere where you might make a difference ? get a placard and wander around with it ? But as I said, they apply to the previous format. He's yet to come up with any logical reason why including U23 teams in lower league competition would be to the long term of BRFC. Where's better to express opinion that a forum of thousands of Gasheads, many of whom will be contemplating whether to attend the game. The decision is for them to make but given the importance of this issue for the future of lower league football, it's important it's an informed one. Those who want to go will go and must not be condemned for doing so.
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 23, 2017 12:39:42 GMT
I'm thinking of going, because its that or listening to the Mrs for an evening. A Rovers game wins hands down every time, even a mickey mouse cup game.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 23, 2017 12:52:55 GMT
It is likely that I will attend the Mem for the West Ham game; due to a family event this weekend I am unable to watch the McFranchise game. Therefore I will exercise my right to make a decision of my own violition without worrying about others opinions, please feel free to debate my actions with or without including me in the debate. UTG Scab!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 12:54:18 GMT
But as I said, they apply to the previous format. He's yet to come up with any logical reason why including U23 teams in lower league competition would be to the long term of BRFC. Where's better to express opinion that a forum of thousands of Gasheads, many of whom will be contemplating whether to attend the game. The decision is for them to make but given the importance of this issue for the future of lower league football, it's important it's an informed one. Those who want to go will go and must not be condemned for doing so. Anyone who actively supports an experiment which will prove hugely damaging to lower league football as we know it will inevitably be condemned.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 23, 2017 12:58:17 GMT
Those who want to go will go and must not be condemned for doing so. Anyone who actively supports an experiment which will prove hugely damaging to lower league football as we know it will inevitably be condemned. But will it ? All the extra money being paid to the lower league clubs All the extra experience for both teams better quality of football
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 13:05:52 GMT
Anyone who actively supports an experiment which will prove hugely damaging to lower league football as we know it will inevitably be condemned. But will it ? All the extra money being paid to the lower league clubs All the extra experience for both teams better quality of football Brilliant. I've always said the lack of experience of playing Wolves U23 is the thing holding us back. Total nonsense and you know it.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 23, 2017 13:06:07 GMT
It is likely that I will attend the Mem for the West Ham game; due to a family event this weekend I am unable to watch the McFranchise game. Therefore I will exercise my right to make a decision of my own violition without worrying about others opinions, please feel free to debate my actions with or without including me in the debate. UTG Scab! Ok, no more scab comments/jokes/etc, pretty please.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 23, 2017 13:11:25 GMT
Ok, no more scab comments/jokes/etc, pretty please. Come on Antonio it was a joke, I liked his post. You should know me better than that by now? I don't agree with this competition and I won't be attending any games, but if people want to go to the games it's fine by me it's their choice.
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