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Post by abbeygas on Nov 9, 2017 13:25:52 GMT
That’s not true in entirety. He wanted to stay until end of season then leave. It was NH who made the change and this has now been validated by Ward. He was actually very angry to have had the move forced upon him. I will never forget him having the balls to come out and talk to us when ALL the board were beating a hasty retreat. Higgs brought in Gow above Wards head too in that season. God, I wish I could forget that awful day Actually, Ward wanted to give up the season before but Higgs persuaded him to stay on and train DC. However Ward's heart wasn't in it, we were poor on and off the field, his mrs was poorly, JJOT fell out with everyone but himself, some players lacked discipline and change had to happen and quick, we were in freefall. It was a shame DC couldn't keep us up, but it wasn't his fault IMO. It was Ward's idea to bring in Gow for Elliot Richards and Steven Gillespie. 2 awful signings. When you look back on it, no wonder we went down.
In fairness Gow was a tidy player but got injured and I don't think we would have gone down if he had stayed fit. I will give you Gillespie though, I think you are being kind by leaving it at awful!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 9, 2017 13:31:19 GMT
In the style of Gasincider, it came from the Corridors of Power.... but not at the mem HG haven't you all admitted on here that you don't have a direct contact at S Glos planning but simply a friend who works on ground works, who hears the odd whisper but he's been working on the Hinkley Point job recently so your source of info had dried up? You are about 180 degrees out in that guess, try again please
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 9, 2017 13:36:11 GMT
And the average Rovers attendance over say the last ten years is ......? Past 10 years for Rovers 7010. The 10 years prior to Brighton moving was 6456. In their first season in the new stadium they averaged over 20k and averaged 27996 last season. Brighton since their move have not averaged less than 20k. Reading averaged 6590 prior to their move and last season averaged 17500. Both teams have no other team close to them as we do.
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Post by aghast on Nov 9, 2017 13:39:29 GMT
Past 10 years for Rovers 7010. The 10 years prior to Brighton moving was 6456. In their first season in the new stadium they averaged over 20k and averaged 27996 last season. Brighton since their move have not averaged less than 20k. Reading averaged 6590 prior to their move and last season averaged 17500. Both teams have no other team close to them as we do. True, but neither have a catchment anywhere near the 1 million of the "Greater Bristol" area.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 9, 2017 13:40:49 GMT
That’s not true in entirety. He wanted to stay until end of season then leave. It was NH who made the change and this has now been validated by Ward. He was actually very angry to have had the move forced upon him. I will never forget him having the balls to come out and talk to us when ALL the board were beating a hasty retreat. Higgs brought in Gow above Wards head too in that season. God, I wish I could forget that awful day
Me too but people keep banging on about it!
Fair shout that. Sorry 😂
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 9, 2017 13:45:07 GMT
That’s not true in entirety. He wanted to stay until end of season then leave. It was NH who made the change and this has now been validated by Ward. He was actually very angry to have had the move forced upon him. I will never forget him having the balls to come out and talk to us when ALL the board were beating a hasty retreat. Higgs brought in Gow above Wards head too in that season. God, I wish I could forget that awful day Actually, Ward wanted to give up the season before but Higgs persuaded him to stay on and train DC. However Ward's heart wasn't in it, we were poor on and off the field, his mrs was poorly, JJOT fell out with everyone but himself, some players lacked discipline and change had to happen and quick, we were in freefall. It was a shame DC couldn't keep us up, but it wasn't his fault IMO. It was Ward's idea to bring in Gow for Elliot Richards and Steven Gillespie. 2 awful signings. When you look back on it, no wonder we went down. I can only tell you what he has said himself. He wanted to stay manager until end of season then leave. You’re right in that he didn’t want to be manager at all for the start of that season
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Post by peterparker on Nov 9, 2017 13:50:56 GMT
Perhaps this gives some better context, for the people pulling DCs and Marcus stewarts comments apart for the ultra negative
Away from the pitch, a minority of fans have started fretting over the direction of the club given the collapse of the UWE stadium deal in the summer and the delay in positive news about the club’s new training ground at Almondsbury.
Rovers have won just one of the last seven matches
“There is a grey cloud around the place at the minute, a lot of negativity surrounding the football club,” admitted Clarke.
“Only we can control that on the pitch, making sure we put in a positive performance and get positive results – it’s not all doom and gloom.
“We try and keep it as positive as we can but also giving a sense of realism to the players that it has to be better, they understand the consequences if it’s not.”
Addressing fans concerns about the current state of the club off the field, Clarke once again reiterated that everyone at the club was pulling in the same direction.
“What I do know is that the chairman, Steve Brookfield [finance director], the owners, me and my players are all working very hard to improve this football club. That will continue to be so,” said Clarke.
“There is a lot of negativity and frustration because they [the fans] don’t see a lot of what’s happening. I understand that the supporters are disappointed with performances and results but everybody is giving their best for the football club.
“It’s only the one with very, very short memories. When you realise how quickly we’ve come up sometimes you can become a bit of a victim of your own success.
“We’ve had a great three years. We’re having a tough time as a football club at the minute and the only way you get through that is by working hard and with everybody pulling in the same direction.
“That’s what I’m about. I’m a manager who’s been there and done it and I know what this football club is all about.”
Clarke was then asked if he feels frustration among the fans has stemmed from issues regarding the collapse of the UWE Stadium deal.
“Yes, certainly it all comes to the boil,” said Clarke.
“It multiplies, there wouldn’t be as much negativity if we were winning every week, that’s for myself and the players to deal with, - we understand that.
“There is a lot of pressure on my players and myself to lift the gloom, there always has been.”
Clarke was also asked if he felt that a little more perspective was needed when analysing Rovers’ recent struggles.
“Perspective, at this place, you’re having a laugh aren’t you?” joked Clarke.
“What I’d say is that you’re always looking for the positives around here because there are that many negatives. It’s the way of the footballing world, it’s not just this place – everybody wants success, everybody thinks they’re a player or a manager.
“I’m getting some stick at the minute, I appreciate that. I’m a football manager, I’m going to be a football manager for a long time and hopefully at Bristol Rovers for a long time, but you’re going to take some hits along the way.
“If you look at my career as a whole, I’ve had four promotions and two top 10 finishes. I’ve not had many down days apart from the eight games when I took over, but after that it’s been an upward curve. But on that upward curve I’ve hit roadblocks like I have now.”
With online forums and rumour playing a large part in fuelling the negativity around the club, Clarke was also asked if curiosity ever got the better of him.
“I’d rather pickle my eyes!” laughed Clarke.
“What is a forum? You stand in a room with hundreds of people and they’ll give you a different formation and a different team – that’s why we love the game.
“Forums are for people if they want to enjoy that,” added Clarke.
Rovers now head to Scunthorpe this Saturday looking for back to back league wins to kickstart their form ahead of a vital eight week period before the transfer window opens.
One positivity stemming from Rovers’ cup exits is that Clarke and his team now only have one competition to focus on and the midweek matches are few and far between for the remainder of the season.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 9, 2017 13:55:14 GMT
So the bad news bears on here are damaging team morale too?
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 9, 2017 14:00:13 GMT
I think people are reading too much into Marcus comments. I think it was about GD and his funeral this week rather than troubles off pitch. That dosnt make any sense to me though. Professional football people affected by an ex chairmans funeral? Bear in mind a lot of those people would have had a close relationship with GD, including Marcus.
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 9, 2017 14:13:23 GMT
So the bad news bears on here are damaging team morale too? Intersting question, but I'd say definitley yes. Even if DC and others at the club aren't open to pickling their own eyeballs (and I bet a few do), they will know or be close to people that do, mates / WAGs etc. So it is bound to have a seep over, and that is even before you take account of the ones that communicate with the few that are are on social media directly. Some of the tweets to Wael for example are a bit embarrassing in my view, but social media seems to give permission to keyboard warriors to say what they want to people they dont know; its the way thing are. And we know a fair few of them use it so the idea they are un affected I simply don't buy
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 9, 2017 14:16:08 GMT
“It’s only the one with very, very short memories. When you realise how quickly we’ve come up sometimes you can become a bit of a victim of your own success.
“We’ve had a great three years. We’re having a tough time as a football club at the minute and the only way you get through that is by working hard and with everybody pulling in the same direction.
“Perspective, at this place, you’re having a laugh aren’t you?” joked Clarke.
This is why I'm 100% behind DC.
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Post by 1883kinhswoodgas on Nov 9, 2017 14:17:24 GMT
So the bad news bears on here are damaging team morale too? Imagine my shock
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Post by 1883kinhswoodgas on Nov 9, 2017 14:21:36 GMT
So the bad news bears on here are damaging team morale too? Intersting question, but I'd say definitley yes. Even if DC and others at the club aren't open to pickling their own eyeballs (and I bet a few do), they will know or be close to people that do, mates / WAGs etc. So it is bound to have a seep over, and that is even before you take account of the ones that communicate with the few that are are on social media directly. Some of the tweets to Wael for example are a bit embarrassing in my view, but social media seems to give permission to keyboard warriors to say what they want to people they dont know; its the way thing are. And we know a fair few of them use it so the idea they are un affected I simply don't buy I’d say you are right...read the following- I will do! Tough times. I hate that I feel the need to look. Some of the insults I have seen towards him,myself and my child are horrific! That is a tweet from Chris Lines partner...no coincidence that linesy has bombed twitter off. I think it’s time we press a reset button and do what we do best and that’s get behind the lads and help breed some confidence!
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Post by LJG on Nov 9, 2017 14:28:11 GMT
So the bad news bears on here are damaging team morale too? As if that isn't the intention of "whoever" originates this cr*p.
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Post by popuppirate on Nov 9, 2017 14:37:21 GMT
So the bad news bears on here are damaging team morale too? Exactly. Too many over-entitled ***** expecting promotion after promotion after promotion and non -sustainable spending. This, coupled with several out of favour itk types and 'disgruntled' mates of mates who are no longer privvy to info, make this place stink of Trashton and all I've hated them for. Same mob here, on the other forum and Facebook, just different names.
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Post by Strange Gas on Nov 9, 2017 14:39:06 GMT
Intersting question, but I'd say definitley yes. Even if DC and others at the club aren't open to pickling their own eyeballs (and I bet a few do), they will know or be close to people that do, mates / WAGs etc. So it is bound to have a seep over, and that is even before you take account of the ones that communicate with the few that are are on social media directly. Some of the tweets to Wael for example are a bit embarrassing in my view, but social media seems to give permission to keyboard warriors to say what they want to people they dont know; its the way thing are. And we know a fair few of them use it so the idea they are un affected I simply don't buy I’d say you are right...read the following- I will do! Tough times. I hate that I feel the need to look. Some of the insults I have seen towards him,myself and my child are horrific! That is a tweet from Chris Lines partner...no coincidence that linesy has bombed twitter off. I think it’s time we press a reset button and do what we do best and that’s get behind the lads and help breed some confidence! Yep, not the only one I'm sure . . . Ellis for example has had a lot of sh** over recent times. Its driven some of these probably quite sensitive young men off social media (or at least make accounts more private) but only after they had been affected by it and it was too late. I also bet that need to look is an issue for many. Easy to say they are in public eye / paid to deal with it but the truth is they are real people with friends, families and feelings
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 9, 2017 14:39:17 GMT
Past 10 years for Rovers 7010. The 10 years prior to Brighton moving was 6456. In their first season in the new stadium they averaged over 20k and averaged 27996 last season. Brighton since their move have not averaged less than 20k. Reading averaged 6590 prior to their move and last season averaged 17500. Both teams have no other team close to them as we do. Bristol is twice the size of Brighton and pretty much 3 times the size of Reading. If Bristol had 2 teams in the upper echelons of The Championship being successful I've no doubt that both could pull in excess of 20,000+ crowds if we had the facilities for it. We in this part of the world have been starved of any decent success. If we ever did get any then I am sure the crowds would flock ala Brighton. We've just got to pray that we improve quickly and catch that lot up. Because if we don't and god forbid they get to The Premier League and stay there like a Stoke for example, we could get left behind for ever. Its already been 17 years, we don't want it to be 117.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 9, 2017 14:51:26 GMT
So the bad news bears on here are damaging team morale too? As if that isn't the intention of "whoever" originates this cr*p. I don't believe that was the intention.
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Post by LJG on Nov 9, 2017 15:02:00 GMT
As if that isn't the intention of "whoever" originates this cr*p. I don't believe that was the intention. I'm quite convinced of the opposite. The term "white knight" was used. I believe that is exactly how these people want to appear. The only way that can happen is if everything is completely shambolic. I genuinely believe it is an attempt to "bad-vibe" the club to destabilise the owners, coaches, DC and players if necessary so they can pick up where they left off in 2006. "They" wouldn't give a sh1t about a relegation. Their interest is self-centred pride and they want to play football club owners at BRFC. In my opinion they believe the best way to achieve that is by trying to f**k everything up for everyone now.
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Post by 1883kinhswoodgas on Nov 9, 2017 15:08:59 GMT
I don't believe that was the intention. I'm quite convinced of the opposite. The term "white knight" was used. I believe that is exactly how these people want to appear. The only way that can happen is if everything is completely shambolic. I genuinely believe it is an attempt to "bad-vibe" the club to destabilise the owners, coaches, DC and players if necessary so they can pick up where they left off in 2006. "They" wouldn't give a sh1t about a relegation. Their interest is self-centred pride and they want to play football club owners at BRFC. In my opinion they believe the best way to achieve that is by trying to f**k everything up for everyone now. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 The reasons for fencegate will become all apparent one day and I wouldn’t be surprised to see everyone say “fair play WAQ”
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