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Post by peterparker on Nov 9, 2017 15:21:44 GMT
I'm quite convinced of the opposite. The term "white knight" was used. I believe that is exactly how these people want to appear. The only way that can happen is if everything is completely shambolic. I genuinely believe it is an attempt to "bad-vibe" the club to destabilise the owners, coaches, DC and players if necessary so they can pick up where they left off in 2006. "They" wouldn't give a sh1t about a relegation. Their interest is self-centred pride and they want to play football club owners at BRFC. In my opinion they believe the best way to achieve that is by trying to f**k everything up for everyone now. ππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌ The reasons for fencegate will become all apparent one day and I wouldnβt be surprised to see everyone say βfair play WAQβ Oh God, don't tell me you know something different
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Post by 1883kinhswoodgas on Nov 9, 2017 15:29:38 GMT
ππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌππΌ The reasons for fencegate will become all apparent one day and I wouldnβt be surprised to see everyone say βfair play WAQβ Oh God, don't tell me you know something different No just my take on the situation, no inside knowledge or βsourceβ just my gut feeling
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Post by Cosmic Pasty on Nov 9, 2017 15:41:18 GMT
I think people are reading too much into Marcus comments. I think it was about GD and his funeral this week rather than troubles off pitch. That dosnt make any sense to me though. Professional football people affected by an ex chairmans funeral? It makes plenty of sense, and not just because it's always sobering to see someone taken far too young - nobody likes to be reminded that none of us are guaranteed our three score and ten, whoever we are. The funeral was probably a lot like Nick Day's tribute (moving and intense all by itself), only on a much bigger scale and with the added impact of committing GD to the great beyond and walking away from him for the final time. In spite of him being an ex-chairman, he was still very much a presence at the club and these professionals are real people who will at least have met with him. Pile on to that the fact that the funeral will have made much of Geoff's glory days and what he achieved for the club, stepping out of that atmosphere and back into the reality of the current climate no doubt made a mark too, even on those who didn't know him well. Nick Day said during his tribute at the ground that if it were not for Geoff Dunford we would have to be doing something else with our Saturday afternoons, and I think that's probably true of DC too. He hasn't 'just' been responsible for two promotions, he's been responsible for getting us out of the conference, at the first attempt, at a time when we would have died on our arses if we'd stayed there. Wael has said himself that they were only interested in buying a league club, and I don't think we'd have survived if we'd have stayed in the conference with all the problems we had at the time. I don't know that I'd go as far as to say that DC has earned a relegation, but I do believe he's more than earned the chance to fight off the prospect of one. No club is ever going to have one long, everlasting period of success - they all have their ups and downs. I can't think of anyone else I'd rather have in charge during a stormy period than DC. However things might look from the outside (as painted by people with a Keyboard and An Opinion), DC is the manager and knows what really goes on. We don't. Maybe there really are difficulties at the club, but I don't see how not getting in his corner and backing him is going to help him overcome them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 16:02:29 GMT
Thatβs not true in entirety. He wanted to stay until end of season then leave. It was NH who made the change and this has now been validated by Ward. He was actually very angry to have had the move forced upon him.Β I will never forget him having the balls to come out and talk to us when ALL the board were beating a hasty retreat. Higgs brought in Gow above Wards head too in that season.Β God, I wish I could forget that awful dayΒ Actually, Ward wanted to give up the season before but Higgs persuaded him to stay on and train DC. Β However Ward's heart wasn't in it, we were poor on and off the field, his mrs was poorly, JJOT fell out with everyone but himself, some players lacked discipline and change had to happen and quick, we were in freefall. Β It was a shame DC couldn't keep us up, but it wasn't his fault IMO. It was Ward's idea to bring in Gow for Elliot Richards and Steven Gillespie. Β 2 awful signings. Β When you look back on it, no wonder we went down. No it wasent it was the board who did the deal.gow was on paper a good signing but injury put paid to that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 16:03:34 GMT
HG haven't you all admitted on here that you don't have a direct contact at S Glos planning but simply a friend who works on ground works, who hears the odd whisper but he's been working on the Hinkley Point job recently so your source of info had dried up? You are about 180 degrees out in that guess, try again please Of course he is wrong it's a student at uwe
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Post by countygroundhotel on Nov 9, 2017 16:51:40 GMT
Can't be fecked to read all this thread one page and people are defending losing 4 2 twice to teams from a division below and asking for relegation. If DC and Wael read this forum they must laugh at what an easy gig running Bristol Rovers is with its apathetic fanbase
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 16:51:56 GMT
He asked to be removed of his managerial duties partly to care for his ill wife. No he didn't he wanted to stay to see the season out and make sure we hot the 8 points needed for safety instead he was forced into accepting a director of football job for 8 games So Higgs lied again then? π±π±
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 16:56:49 GMT
He asked to be removed of his managerial duties partly to care for his ill wife. Thatβs not true in entirety. He wanted to stay until end of season then leave. It was NH who made the change and this has now been validated by Ward. He was actually very angry to have had the move forced upon him. I will never forget him having the balls to come out and talk to us when ALL the board were beating a hasty retreat. Higgs brought in Gow above Wards head too in that season. God, I wish I could forget that awful day I knew about Gow and the biggest shock was that we carried on paying Eliot Richards wages at the same time.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 9, 2017 17:14:31 GMT
Thatβs not true in entirety. He wanted to stay until end of season then leave. It was NH who made the change and this has now been validated by Ward. He was actually very angry to have had the move forced upon him. I will never forget him having the balls to come out and talk to us when ALL the board were beating a hasty retreat. Higgs brought in Gow above Wards head too in that season. God, I wish I could forget that awful day I knew about Gow and the biggest shock was that we carried on paying Eliot Richards wages at the same time. Yeah, coz of the circumstances, result, fallout, etc, must go down as the worst transfer in the history of the club.
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Post by Parrot on Nov 9, 2017 17:16:52 GMT
I remember attending a forum a few years ago where DC stated that Elliot was not a good member of the squad and wouldnt listen to instructions and was lazy in training
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 17:33:24 GMT
No he didn't he wanted to stay to see the season out and make sure we hot the 8 points needed for safety instead he was forced into accepting a director of football job for 8 games So Higgs lied again then? π±π± I wouldn't know I was working away at the time I only know what John Ward told me
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 9, 2017 18:07:46 GMT
I remember attending a forum a few years ago where DC stated that Elliot was not a good member of the squad and wouldnt listen to instructions and was lazy in training At least he turned up for training unlike Gow who was out injured virtually as soon as he signed. As far as GD's funeral having a bearing on last night's performance, what's the excuse for Friday nights performance?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 9, 2017 18:11:01 GMT
HG haven't you all admitted on here that you don't have a direct contact at S Glos planning but simply a friend who works on ground works, who hears the odd whisper but he's been working on the Hinkley Point job recently so your source of info had dried up? You are about 180 degrees out in that guess, try again please Guess? Just repeating what you've said yourself in the past, I'd have to have a vivid imagination to make that up!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 18:12:16 GMT
I remember attending a forum a few years ago where DC stated that Elliot was not a good member of the squad and wouldnt listen to instructions and was lazy in training At least he turned up for training unlike Gow who was out injured virtually as soon as he signed. As far as GD's funeral having a bearing on last night's performance, what's the excuse for Friday nights performance?Β They were waiting for the funeral and couldn't concentrate on the game
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Post by LJG on Nov 9, 2017 18:43:26 GMT
You are about 180 degrees out in that guess, try again please Guess? Just repeating what you've said yourself in the past, I'd have to have a vivid imagination to make that up!Β To be fair you do make some things up then put a question mark on the end.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 0:23:06 GMT
That dosnt make any sense to me though. Professional football people affected by an ex chairmans funeral? Bear in mind a lot of those people would have had a close relationship with GD, including Marcus. Respect your opinion i just dont think marcus was talking about the funeral myself.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 0:25:18 GMT
That dosnt make any sense to me though. Professional football people affected by an ex chairmans funeral? It makes plenty of sense, and not just because it's always sobering to see someone taken far too young - nobody likes to be reminded that none of us are guaranteed our three score and ten, whoever we are. The funeral was probably a lot like Nick Day's tribute (moving and intense all by itself), only on a much bigger scale and with the added impact of committing GD to the great beyond and walking away from him for the final time. In spite of him being an ex-chairman, he was still very much a presence at the club and these professionals are real people who will at least have met with him. Pile on to that the fact that the funeral will have made much of Geoff's glory days and what he achieved for the club, stepping out of that atmosphere and back into the reality of the current climate no doubt made a mark too, even on those who didn't know him well. Nick Day said during his tribute at the ground that if it were not for Geoff Dunford we would have to be doing something else with our Saturday afternoons, and I think that's probably true of DC too. He hasn't 'just' been responsible for two promotions, he's been responsible for getting us out of the conference, at the first attempt, at a time when we would have died on our arses if we'd stayed there. Wael has said himself that they were only interested in buying a league club, and I don't think we'd have survived if we'd have stayed in the conference with all the problems we had at the time. I don't know that I'd go as far as to say that DC has earned a relegation, but I do believe he's more than earned the chance to fight off the prospect of one. No club is ever going to have one long, everlasting period of success - they all have their ups and downs. I can't think of anyone else I'd rather have in charge during a stormy period than DC. However things might look from the outside (as painted by people with a Keyboard and An Opinion), DC is the manager and knows what really goes on. We don't. Maybe there really are difficulties at the club, but I don't see how not getting in his corner and backing him is going to help him overcome them. I believe marcus and dc were hinting at other things not the funeral in their interviews. Im very pro dc just saying
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 0:41:31 GMT
I just dont agree that players are affected by stuff on football forums,facebook etc and if they are they may as well pack the game in now. All were seeing on here and on facebook as well as the media is a reflection of how the modern world is. Its the same all over the country including at matches where people routinely walk out well before the end or boo etc. Its just the way it is now.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 10, 2017 1:04:06 GMT
I just dont agree that players are affected by stuff on football forums,facebook etc and if they are they may as well pack the game in now. All were seeing on here and on facebook as well as the media is a reflection of how the modern world is. Its the same all over the country including at matches where people routinely walk out well before the end or boo etc. Its just the way it is now. It's just human nature. People trash you, you will react. Some well, some not so. But I'm sure it affects all players to some degree. Lines' and DC's interviews today are very revealing on this subject. They both say they don't read the forums but you can see the hurt in their reactions.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2017 1:52:26 GMT
I just dont agree that players are affected by stuff on football forums,facebook etc and if they are they may as well pack the game in now. All were seeing on here and on facebook as well as the media is a reflection of how the modern world is. Its the same all over the country including at matches where people routinely walk out well before the end or boo etc. Its just the way it is now. It's just human nature. People trash you, you will react. Some well, some not so. But I'm sure it affects all players to some degree. Lines' and DC's interviews today are very revealing on this subject. They both say they don't read the forums but you can see the hurt in their reactions. Good interview by lines.
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