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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 11:41:10 GMT
I don't know if you're taking the water or what, but Nichols has only scored 12 goals in his last 72 League One games, so I highly doubt he will suddenly miraculously manage 10 in 22. Some people would probably have said simmilar about Ellis if the OP had said that in the summer Well i did put a thread on here on aug 5th called "love you ellis" and many posters though not all slagged both the thread and ellis off big time.
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Post by pucklegas on Dec 27, 2017 12:02:18 GMT
He will come good, we don’t play to his strengths, no wingers.
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Post by alvestongas on Dec 27, 2017 12:07:11 GMT
Cut our losses and get rid of him if we can in the January window. Adds nothing to the side & at half time yesterday was given 1/10 by Gasheads around me!
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Post by peterhooper57 on Dec 27, 2017 12:11:32 GMT
DC needs to bring in decent wingers, then who knows, Tom may start firing goals, for me he needs to play through the middle all the time, being dragged out onto the flanks is not where a goal scorer needs to be.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Dec 27, 2017 12:15:25 GMT
Cut our losses and get rid of him if we can in the January window. Adds nothing to the side & at half time yesterday was given 1/10 by Gasheads around me! If you think Nichols is the problem then you're in for a shock when we sell him and replace him for someone who will get the same criticism because as someone has pointed out the forwards aren't the problem, its the service they are being given.
Bodin had 2/3 men marking him yesterday at a time, and Walsall could afford to do this because our left side going forward is something that Patchway Town wouldn't want to be associated with.
The lack of width and creativity on the wing is appalling and means we are always trying to create chances down what is already a packed middle.
I honestly can't believe people are looking past this and trying to scapegoat one new player.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 27, 2017 12:21:05 GMT
To be fair to him he has come the closest to scoring in open play in the last two games, in fact is he the only player to force the opposition goalie into making a save? Perhaps alongside a more experienced CF he'd look a different player. So first it was because he was playing on the left and now it is because he isn't playing alongside an experienced striker. Not having that. Just excuses. The fact his best moment of the game was missing a decent opportunity says it all I'm afraid. It was hardly a glaring miss as it brought a decent save from the goalie, Nichols scored 12 goals last season so he seems to have the ability unlike James.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 12:30:55 GMT
Cut our losses and get rid of him if we can in the January window. Adds nothing to the side & at half time yesterday was given 1/10 by Gasheads around me! If you think Nichols is the problem then you're in for a shock when we sell him and replace him for someone who will get the same criticism because as someone has pointed out the forwards aren't the problem, its the service they are being given.
Bodin had 2/3 men marking him yesterday at a time, and Walsall could afford to do this because our left side going forward is something that Patchway Town wouldn't want to be associated with.
The lack of width and creativity on the wing is appalling and means we are always trying to create chances down what is already a packed middle.
I honestly can't believe people are looking past this and trying to scapegoat one new player.
Agree we need more width and and a winger or wide midfielder or both are esseantial additions to the squad. As for Nicholls well I can't see the goal every other game you predict for the second half of the season happening even with the best wingers in the league providing him service. Suspect he's on a 2 or 3 year contract so some time for improvement but I'm not hopeful on the evidence so far I'm afraid but let's hope you are right with your wishful predication.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 13:21:50 GMT
Looks like someone ate the yellow snow
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Dec 27, 2017 13:30:55 GMT
If you think Nichols is the problem then you're in for a shock when we sell him and replace him for someone who will get the same criticism because as someone has pointed out the forwards aren't the problem, its the service they are being given.
Bodin had 2/3 men marking him yesterday at a time, and Walsall could afford to do this because our left side going forward is something that Patchway Town wouldn't want to be associated with.
The lack of width and creativity on the wing is appalling and means we are always trying to create chances down what is already a packed middle.
I honestly can't believe people are looking past this and trying to scapegoat one new player.
Agree we need more width and and a winger or wide midfielder or both are esseantial additions to the squad. As for Nicholls well I can't see the goal every other game you predict for the second half of the season happening even with the best wingers in the league providing him service. Suspect he's on a 2 or 3 year contract so some time for improvement but I'm not hopeful on the evidence so far I'm afraid but let's hope you are right with your wishful predication. I personally don't think its wishful thinking to have 2 wingers who can at the least provide a high/low cross to small nippy forwards. We currently lack big time on the wing and that reflects in the overall performances when the back 4 (Whose only option of a pass is in a congested middle) continuously lump the ball forward and more than half the time it comes straight back.
The current style of play doesn't fit Nichols, but then again does it fit anyone when we are constantly playing hoofball? The amount of times yesterday we played hit and hope long balls was ridiculous.
I just think there is a larger underlying problem with the squad, not just a forward who isn't receiving his fair share of service.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 13:45:43 GMT
My first impression was lightweight and more bothered with his tan and holiday rep look. Not a fan whatsoever and I don’t even want to see him succeed as I’d prefer a “real man” on the pitch and not this little pretty boy. Sorry if that offends anyone. Old fashioned 33 year old here!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 27, 2017 14:00:55 GMT
My first impression was lightweight and more bothered with his tan and holiday rep look. Not a fan whatsoever and I don’t even want to see him succeed as I’d prefer a “real man” on the pitch and not this little pretty boy. Sorry if that offends anyone. Old fashioned 33 year old here! "I don't Want to see him succeed". Sure you are a Rovers fan?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 14:11:05 GMT
Is it just a mere coincidence that two similar players in Luke James and Tom Nichols both completely fail to hit the net no matter how many games they get ? Both with good ball skills and work rate. Both coming off of good transfers being paid for them over time.
Sounds perhaps that either they are the wrong style of player for the way the club plays , or the club do not play to utilise them to their best potential. Or the players around them are not good enough to deliver the right kind of balls. Or that two skilful players are both rubbish ? Or maybe they both tried being team players when in fact they should be more selfish . Something Rickie Lambert mentioned when interviewed recently.
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Post by markczgas on Dec 27, 2017 14:14:20 GMT
Is it just a mere coincidence that two similar players in Luke James and Tom Nichols both completely fail to hit the net no matter how many games they get ? Both with good ball skills and work rate. Both coming off of good transfers being paid for them over time. Sounds perhaps that either they are the wrong style of player for the way the club plays , or the club do not play to utilise them to their best potential. Or the players around them are not good enough to deliver the right kind of balls. Or that two skilful players are both rubbish ? Or maybe they both tried being team players when in fact they should be more selfish . Something Rickie Lambert mentioned when interviewed recently. James, is now at bottom of L2 FGR and i don't think he's even playing much
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 14:21:59 GMT
Is it just a mere coincidence that two similar players in Luke James and Tom Nichols both completely fail to hit the net no matter how many games they get ? Both with good ball skills and work rate. Both coming off of good transfers being paid for them over time. Sounds perhaps that either they are the wrong style of player for the way the club plays , or the club do not play to utilise them to their best potential. Or the players around them are not good enough to deliver the right kind of balls. Or that two skilful players are both rubbish ? Or maybe they both tried being team players when in fact they should be more selfish . Something Rickie Lambert mentioned when interviewed recently. Fair point. Two technically gifted young players, one failed and moved on, the other I'm still hoping will come good. Perhaps it is our overall lack of quality, style of play or fans desire for a battering ram lump who runs a lot that is the problem? Should we refrain from ever signing small, technical players in future? Focus scouting based on distance running abilities, height and strength? I'm certainly not going to join the mob who have chosen TN as the latest scapegoat.
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Post by markczgas on Dec 27, 2017 14:23:02 GMT
I don't know if you're taking the water or what, but Nichols has only scored 12 goals in his last 72 League One games, so I highly doubt he will suddenly miraculously manage 10 in 22. And when Matty Taylor first joined us a large percentage of this forum said he wasn't cut out for it either, you can't just expect new signings to set the world alight, they need time and encouragement. Frankly the abuse and criticism Nichols has received is nothing short of bullying.
Supporters need to give him a chance.
I was thrilled when he joined - good reputation, scored goals in L1 but there is a massive difference between him and Taylor - we paid nothing for Taylor and around 300 K for Nichols ! DC signed him as Taylor's replacement hoping he'd have a similar impact. He's scored 1 league goal, which if you remember was a gift, v MK Dons ! So, as things stand it's been a disastrous signing - can you really argue with that ? I think most Gasheads would also say we look much more of a threat when Gaffs and Ellis are the front two too !? He may need to go out on loan (if we do get a few extra players in in Jan) to discover his goal-scoring touch - perhaps then he might kickstart his Rovers career (next season ??).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 14:38:45 GMT
Is it just a mere coincidence that two similar players in Luke James and Tom Nichols both completely fail to hit the net no matter how many games they get ? Both with good ball skills and work rate. Both coming off of good transfers being paid for them over time. Sounds perhaps that either they are the wrong style of player for the way the club plays , or the club do not play to utilise them to their best potential. Or the players around them are not good enough to deliver the right kind of balls. Or that two skilful players are both rubbish ? Or maybe they both tried being team players when in fact they should be more selfish . Something Rickie Lambert mentioned when interviewed recently. James, is now at bottom of L2 FGR and i don't think he's even playing much Perhaps he had his best spell as a kid which got him the attention and transfer fees but never progressed. Then as a striker if you don't score self confidence can be an enemy some don't recover from. Perhaps some players are better off ignoring what the coach and manager tell them to do in a game and go back to doing what they did off their own steam back in the days when they did score lots and enjoy the game (?) Perhaps Tom Nichols needs to get down his local park with his mates and have a kick around and bang some goals in and start remembering what made him stand out in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 16:08:59 GMT
My first impression was lightweight and more bothered with his tan and holiday rep look. Not a fan whatsoever and I don’t even want to see him succeed as I’d prefer a “real man” on the pitch and not this little pretty boy. Sorry if that offends anyone. Old fashioned 33 year old here! "I don't Want to see him succeed". Sure you are a Rovers fan? you’ve only selected half the sentence dude!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 16:17:10 GMT
Maybe if he shaved his head, stopped tanning himself, got in the gym, got stuck in and got a black eye or 2 then I might give him some backing, until then move on son!
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Post by Big Jock on Dec 27, 2017 16:28:42 GMT
"I don't Want to see him succeed". Sure you are a Rovers fan? you’ve only selected half the sentence dude! Nae pal we read it, yous went on ta say you'd prefer a 'real man'. Takes all sorts nowadays, you fill yer boots pal.
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Post by Marshy on Dec 27, 2017 16:34:21 GMT
you’ve only selected half the sentence dude! Nae pal we read it, yous went on ta say you'd prefer a 'real man'. Takes all sorts nowadays, you fill yer boots pal. Send him your mates Alistair’s details Jock? He knows how to hang out.
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