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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 22:25:01 GMT
im just stating that the 300k we got for Taylor, should have gone straight on a striker. So we only paid a fee for LSercombe, rest were loans. That's not really being backed. Although I'll admit it's not looking well spent on Nicholls. When was the last time our manager was that well backed, though? Precisely
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 6, 2018 22:28:42 GMT
It's not about dropping anyone, it's about giving us options. 2 wingers as we don't have any at the club and a defensive midfielder are must for me. If anyone were to be dropped it would probably be Ollie Clarke who has really struggled this season more than any other player. I get the options bit. It's just that I suspect that 3 quality signings would not want to come if they are brought in as just "options". Do You? Sigh. No, probably not. I would like to see a return to 442 though so some will have to lose out. If we got 2 wingers in I'd play sercombe and Sinclair in the middle with Harrison and Gaffney up front.
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Post by chilly1883 on Jan 6, 2018 22:32:12 GMT
Our board pulled our pants down with the Taylor fee, it was an embarrassing bit of business, then paid a small fee for sercombe. They've done the minimum at best.
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Post by tommym9 on Jan 6, 2018 22:38:34 GMT
I'm halfway there with you on this. My eye is on the training ground as a barometer of the ALQs intent.
So far not too good.
Realistically with Bill gone we need a good window to avoid a relegation scrap.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 6, 2018 22:42:24 GMT
I think that if Yeovil Effing Town can manage to get 4 players between Thursday and Saturday, with their perilous league position, pathetic level of support and therefore little or no money, and with a totally incomprehensible cretin for a manager, then yes, I do expect us to be able to get some decent players through the door. It's not asking too much, surely. Can remember loads moaning that Swindon signed loads more than us last January and that they would finish way above us. As we know they didn't. Rushing to sign loads of players is not always the best option. We need players, but it's better to get the right ones.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Jan 6, 2018 22:43:21 GMT
May also be the last chance for d c as well if he messes up the transfer window again
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 6, 2018 22:46:15 GMT
im just stating that the 300k we got for Taylor, should have gone straight on a striker. So we only paid a fee for LSercombe, rest were loans. That's not really being backed. Although I'll admit it's not looking well spent on Nicholls. When was the last time our manager was that well backed, though? Last time we were in Div 1 problem seems to be somebody put together an unbalanced squad in the summer i.e. two experienced goalies but no left wingers plus four players have really struggled OC, BM, RS & TN plus TL seems to have been injury prone. Problem now is how does DC replace a 20 goal a season striker in MT/BB or somebody how can score 10 goals in the second half of the season. Back to the OP if the owners really do intend spend £m's at The Colony you'd have to hope they'd give DC a decent budget for January, time will tell if that is the case. If not the Jordanian dream will be well and truly over.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 22:48:11 GMT
I'm already finished with them after the veiled threat of litigation that has surfaced on the AF. Smacks of those clowns at Blackpool.
They should be concentrating on progressing this club on and off the pitch not tilting at windmills on the internet. Get a life ffs.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jan 6, 2018 23:13:27 GMT
Our board pulled our pants down with the Taylor fee, it was an embarrassing bit of business, then paid a small fee for sercombe. They've done the minimum at best. Sorry, but comments like this are just moronic. Taylor wouldn't have signed unless the release clause was put into his contract. Taylors agent and the club agreed on 300K. The board did the best they could at the time to keep Taylor who I had offers from 20 other League 1 teams. Keeping DC, keeping Taylor for the extra half a year etc, wouldn't have happened under the old board.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 6, 2018 23:21:13 GMT
I wouldn't say January is the last chance but I do think 2018 is the year to deliver on plans. My hope/expectations are:
January - 2 good permanent signings and 1 or 2 loans February - Colony planning application submitted March - latest accounts published. Hopefully the shareholders can ask a few questions even though the will be 9 months out of date and predate the UWE withdrawl. April to June - Colony started and initial Mem plans made public. Pitch corrected once the season finishes. July and August - additional signings ready for a push next season for the Championship.
Much less than this and my belief in their ability to deliver would be tested.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 6, 2018 23:36:51 GMT
Wow. Good for you, I admire your positivity. I'm setting the bar much higher. I want to see at least 3 quality signings. Players of Sercombes quality or at the least, very exciting non league/L2 up and comers. 3 players?. Who would you drop? Brown for a start
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Post by swissgas on Jan 7, 2018 0:25:07 GMT
By and large I've remained fairly positive and supportive of our owners. However, with so many negative rumours, the collapse of the UWE deal and the Colony stalling I have started to become a little worried. I'm pinning a lot on this transfer window. A good show of support for DC will be massive. Anything less and I think the owners will really be in danger of losing the fans. What do others feel? Hugo, I find myself in the exact same frame of mind. Since I started supporting the gas nearly 50 years ago, I like many others have seen the ups and downs of being a Gashead. This time it seems different, I have thought a lot as to why its different and I have concluded that the way Wael has ingrataited himself with the Gasheads, things like standing in the crowd instead of sitting in the directors box, catchy slogans like "evolution not revolution" has made the dissapointments more personal. I feel that he has personally let me down, thats why its different, thats why it feels worse than all the previous let downs. Its one thing to have no money, its another thing if you have the money and wont spend it. At the foot of this page I have had a saying for a couple of weeks now. An unreliable friend, is the worse type of enemy
I sincerely hope Wael doesnt fit that bill. Your post struck a chord with me because with the previous and current regimes you’ve generally been loathe to criticise our board / owners. Last week I started a thread about the training ground and tried to highlight the difference between striving for excellence and being content with mediocrity. Having worked in aerospace you will understand that even though true excellence may not always be possible it is vital that you are perceived to be striving for it at all times otherwise confidence among all stakeholders will be shattered. We know there are limitations at Rovers which make excellence difficult to achieve but the problem for me is that we don’t even seem to be trying to achieve it and our leaders have allowed a culture of mediocrity to become embedded. The OP and your comments show this is starting to rebound on the owners and it will do neither them nor us any good if the issue is not addressed. Wael said on December 2nd that he acknowledged his communication with the fans had been lacking and he promised to do better but since then there has been no inspirational Christmas or New Years message to the fans and no comment on the Billy Bodin transfer. This gives the impression he is saying things without meaning them and shirking his responsibilities as a leader. It suggests he enjoys the positive aspects of being President, like being feted by fans, but is not prepared to put the work in and carry the burden which ownership brings. Stuart1974 has given a timetable of what he would like to see and of course he is right that any normal business, large or small, would have such a plan and would use it to inspire the confidence of it’s stakeholders. But at Rovers all we hear from Steve is that there is a difference between Britain and Jordan in the way business is done and the owners don’t feel an obligation to communicate. While at the same time Wael says to Keith Brookman he will communicate with fans but he doesn’t want to give any details or timescales in case these are not achieved and the fans are disappointed. This is the culture of mediocrity in action and I am afraid it’s not just affecting a few supporters on the forums but it’s also affecting the club staff, management, players and others with whom we do business. In the past we’ve been quick to identify managers and players who were not giving their best so IMO, rather than talk about last chances, we ought to be trying to get the message across to Wael that we want to see him performing at his best and not allow himself to fall into the mediocrity trap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 0:54:56 GMT
I think we need a new ground to be completed either at the present site or elsewhere with the club still being in league 1 when its completed for any owner of the club to have full support from supporters.
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Post by Dr Gas on Jan 7, 2018 1:02:34 GMT
I am puzzled by the title of the post: What is/are the option(s)?
Fans will say they do or do not like the way things are going but nothing will change. The owners are still going to be the owners, so how can it be their last chance?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 1:21:34 GMT
I feel like DC was backed quite strongly in the summer. I think we're effectively blaming the board for DC's mistake in buying Nichols. you could have a point there you know!
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Post by 2 Tone Gas on Jan 7, 2018 2:17:43 GMT
One thing I will say, I'm sick and tired of hearing what a hard window, January is. Yeh it's hard if yer only Willing to swap a set of track suits for a player. Agreed. It wasn't hard for Preston!
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jan 7, 2018 3:34:33 GMT
The owners will see how well they are doing when they start asking the supporters to buy a season ticket for next season; if they do not invest in the squad now, and DC being given funds, buys badly, and BRFC are relegated out of Div 1, then for me, I see the club in free fall.
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Post by Dr Gas on Jan 7, 2018 3:42:41 GMT
The owners will see how well they are doing when they start asking the supporters to buy a season ticket for next season; if they do not invest in the squad now, and DC being given funds, buys badly, and BRFC are relegated out of Div 1, then for me, I see the club in free fall. But, seriously, in answer to the original post, is that their last chance?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 4:40:10 GMT
Bodin replacement that works with the current squad is enough for me. Wow. Good for you, I admire your positivity. I'm setting the bar much higher. I want to see at least 3 quality signings. Players of Sercombes quality or at the least, very exciting non league/L2 up and comers. Wishful thinking surely. The reported £400k wouldn't be enough to stretch to 3 quality signings on permanent basis.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 7, 2018 5:55:46 GMT
I am puzzled by the title of the post: What is/are the option(s)? Fans will say they do or do not like the way things are going but nothing will change. The owners are still going to be the owners, so how can it be their last chance? I suppose I was thinking along the lines of it being their last chance to keep all of us fans on board. Keep us convinced that they will deliver on the promises of evolution. As I've said, for me I've remained supportive of the board but failure in this transfer window will see me really struggling to maintain that.
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