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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 7, 2018 7:26:55 GMT
I'm already finished with them after the veiled threat of litigation that has surfaced on the AF. Smacks of those clowns at Blackpool. They should be concentrating on progressing this club on and off the pitch not tilting at windmills on the internet. Get a life ffs. Can you give more info on this as well as a link please?
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Post by peterparker on Jan 7, 2018 7:48:06 GMT
I think that if Yeovil Effing Town can manage to get 4 players between Thursday and Saturday, with their perilous league position, pathetic level of support and therefore little or no money, and with a totally incomprehensible cretin for a manager, then yes, I do expect us to be able to get some decent players through the door. It's not asking too much, surely. its still early. Yeovil have signed 3 20/21 year olds with little or no experience. I am sure we could have done that, but if we had I am sure DC/The board would be getting slaughtered right now
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Post by peterparker on Jan 7, 2018 7:55:37 GMT
I'm already finished with them after the veiled threat of litigation that has surfaced on the AF. Smacks of those clowns at Blackpool. They should be concentrating on progressing this club on and off the pitch not tilting at windmills on the internet. Get a life ffs. Can you give more info on this as well as a link please? As a moderator there, i will firstly say the post has been deleted by the user, so no one can verify what was said. I have never seen it myself The user received a message from the club, asking to DISCUSS a potentially libelous post before anything MAY be pursued. Without knowing what was said/written, I think it best to air on the side of caution before people start jumping in and pointing the finger at the club. As i said on the other forum. A lot has been written about SH, club staff and the Al Qadis recently often insinuating things. Either the poster was unlucky to picked out given some of the sh** written all over social media or it was indeed questionable. I beleive the post (in the posters defence) was badly puntuated or worderd and gave it a slightly different meaning. The post was removed and as far as I am aware that will be the end of the matter
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Post by garystash on Jan 7, 2018 8:38:46 GMT
Whilst it would be disappointing to have a bad window again, I'm not sure you'd be able to hold the board solely accountable.
A few weeks ago DC gave an interview where he referred to his mistakes in the summer. He didn't elaborate, but clearly felt he should've done things differently.
My opinion is we must judge the owners on infrastructure and general running of the club. Things like:
Are the right people employed? Is the structure of the business right? Do the training facilities and ground get delivered? Is the club sustainable? Are we constantly striving to improve things?
For me personally, if the BB fee needs to be put towards the training ground then so be it. There's a bigger more important picture there than the instant gratification of a few new players.
However, it is a balance as relegation would be a disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 8:51:26 GMT
I think that if Yeovil Effing Town can manage to get 4 players between Thursday and Saturday, with their perilous league position, pathetic level of support and therefore little or no money, and with a totally incomprehensible cretin for a manager, then yes, I do expect us to be able to get some decent players through the door. It's not asking too much, surely. its still early. Yeovil have signed 3 20/21 year olds with little or no experience. I am sure we could have done that, but if we had I am sure DC/The board would be getting slaughtered right now One of whom scored an absolute cracker of a goal in his first outing and helped knock out a club out of the cup who absolutely hammered us in the league.
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 7, 2018 8:56:48 GMT
Hamer needs to show intent on the playing side, there is an incredible level of support available but loyalty only stretches so far for some, when they show little ambition many will do other things on a Saturday. D.C. is getting miffed by the ambition, the interviews are getting spikier come on Hani show some intent and back D.C.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 9:28:17 GMT
Whilst it would be disappointing to have a bad window again, I'm not sure you'd be able to hold the board solely accountable. A few weeks ago DC gave an interview where he referred to his mistakes in the summer. He didn't elaborate, but clearly felt he should've done things differently. My opinion is we must judge the owners on infrastructure and general running of the club. Things like: Are the right people employed? Is the structure of the business right? Do the training facilities and ground get delivered? Is the club sustainable? Are we constantly striving to improve things? For me personally, if the BB fee needs to be put towards the training ground then so be it. There's a bigger more important picture there than the instant gratification of a few new players. However, it is a balance as relegation would be a disaster. Good post. Totally agree
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 7, 2018 9:40:10 GMT
My opinion is we must judge the owners on infrastructure and general running of the club. Things like: Are the right people employed? Don't know, we have seen many consultants come and go as well as backroom staff. Nothing has changedIs the structure of the business right? No idea, they don't tell us anything.
Do the training facilities and ground get delivered? No sign of either yet.
Is the club sustainable? Not without a new ground.Are we constantly striving to improve things? Nothing has improved. South West stand aside. We've had a lick of paint and a couple of trailers selling beer. I've answered the questions posed but I can't make my answers in bold from my phone.
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Post by turdburger on Jan 7, 2018 10:03:25 GMT
Can you give more info on this as well as a link please? As a moderator there, i will firstly say the post has been deleted by the user, so no one can verify what was said. I have never seen it myself The user received a message from the club, asking to DISCUSS a potentially libelous post before anything MAY be pursued. Without knowing what was said/written, I think it best to air on the side of caution before people start jumping in and pointing the finger at the club. As i said on the other forum. A lot has been written about SH, club staff and the Al Qadis recently often insinuating things. Either the poster was unlucky to picked out given some of the sh** written all over social media or it was indeed questionable. I beleive the post (in the posters defence) was badly puntuated or worderd and gave it a slightly different meaning. The post was removed and as far as I am aware that will be the end of the matter So youve lost respect for the board over something you and many others havent seen. Also you have no proof of said incident🤔. If the post was libelous then surely its what he desreved anyway. Probably another keyboard warrior spouting off about something he had heard and had no evidence of either. The club have just actually messaged me saying they are buying out lansdown and turning AG into a landfill site whilst also buying filton airfield and building a stadium to rival wembley but of course i have no proof of this, but i expect you all to believe me, or does it only work when the board are being bashed?🤔🤔
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Post by garystash on Jan 7, 2018 10:17:16 GMT
My opinion is we must judge the owners on infrastructure and general running of the club. Things like: Are the right people employed? Don't know, we have seen many consultants come and go as well as backroom staff. Nothing has changedIs the structure of the business right? No idea, they don't tell us anything.
Do the training facilities and ground get delivered? No sign of either yet.
Is the club sustainable? Not without a new ground.Are we constantly striving to improve things? Nothing has improved. South West stand aside. We've had a lick of paint and a couple of trailers selling beer. I've answered the questions posed but I can't make my answers in bold from my phone. Don't necessarily disagree with your answers Hugo. It's just for me, these are the things they should be judged on and I won't give up hope come Feb 1st.
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Post by gasify on Jan 7, 2018 10:22:36 GMT
As a moderator there, i will firstly say the post has been deleted by the user, so no one can verify what was said. I have never seen it myself The user received a message from the club, asking to DISCUSS a potentially libelous post before anything MAY be pursued. Without knowing what was said/written, I think it best to air on the side of caution before people start jumping in and pointing the finger at the club. As i said on the other forum. A lot has been written about SH, club staff and the Al Qadis recently often insinuating things. Either the poster was unlucky to picked out given some of the sh** written all over social media or it was indeed questionable. I beleive the post (in the posters defence) was badly puntuated or worderd and gave it a slightly different meaning. The post was removed and as far as I am aware that will be the end of the matter So youve lost respect for the board over something you and many others havent seen. Also you have no proof of said incident🤔. If the post was libelous then surely its what he desreved anyway. Probably another keyboard warrior spouting off about something he had heard and had no evidence of either. The club have just actually messaged me saying they are buying out lansdown and turning AG into a landfill site whilst also buying filton airfield and building a stadium to rival wembley but of course i have no proof of this, but i expect you all to believe me, or does it only work when the board are being bashed?🤔🤔 About bloody time. I knew they would come good in the end. UTG. KTF.
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Post by madgas on Jan 7, 2018 10:32:52 GMT
All nonsense.
If DC signed no one and we made the playoffs, and got promoted no one would care.
Yet, cos we’re having a fairly boring season. We’re looking for drama. Before Wael came in- does anyone know the last player we paid above 100k for?
Since the Al qadi family took over, we’ve done this- at least 3 times. And don’t site- taylor money, previous boards have failed to reinvest millions from other transfers. I agree that there have been issues with their tenure- but they relate more to communication rather than transfer windows.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 7, 2018 10:33:42 GMT
Problem is without some decent signings in January we could well be a Div 2 next season, not really sure having a Development Squad this season and spending £100k on the pitch will come much if we're back playing in Div 2 next season.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 7, 2018 10:37:51 GMT
Whilst it would be disappointing to have a bad window again, I'm not sure you'd be able to hold the board solely accountable. A few weeks ago DC gave an interview where he referred to his mistakes in the summer. He didn't elaborate, but clearly felt he should've done things differently. My opinion is we must judge the owners on infrastructure and general running of the club. Things like: Are the right people employed? Is the structure of the business right? Do the training facilities and ground get delivered? Is the club sustainable? Are we constantly striving to improve things? For me personally, if the BB fee needs to be put towards the training ground then so be it. There's a bigger more important picture there than the instant gratification of a few new players. However, it is a balance as relegation would be a disaster. Maybe DC was referring to his mistake of not going to Leeds and signing the 5 year contract with us, now he knows the way the ALQs really want to run things?
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Post by Fetch on Jan 7, 2018 10:41:08 GMT
I've seen a lot of posts and tweets about people saying how they're "sorry for the manager as the owners haven't backed him". Let's put that into a bit of context:
This summer, the big one, where people said we'd find out if the AQs were serious, Clarke was given over half a million. He spent that £500,000 on two players (rightly or wrongly). One has been great for us, and the other whilst he has potential has overall been ineffective.
I know £300k of that is the Taylor money, but for some people (not targeting OP here but more the general comments surrounding DC not being backed) to claim he hasn't been given money to spend is unfair imo. He was given a decent amount of money, not as much as Charlton or Blackburn who dish out £1m+ bids for players and offer double the wages we do, but taking FFP into consideration, I would imagine his budget in the summer was close to the maximum the board could give him under the current infrastructure.
For me, the "last chance" for these owners is to see through the construction of an impressive training ground. That will restore faith and then hopefully we can get behind some hopefully promising stadium redevelopment plans. If it falls through however, then I really think they'll have lost the fanbase altogether.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 7, 2018 11:32:03 GMT
I've seen a lot of posts and tweets about people saying how they're "sorry for the manager as the owners haven't backed him". Let's put that into a bit of context: This summer, the big one, where people said we'd find out if the AQs were serious, Clarke was given over half a million. He spent that £500,000 on two players (rightly or wrongly). One has been great for us, and the other whilst he has potential has overall been ineffective. I know £300k of that is the Taylor money, but for some people (not targeting OP here but more the general comments surrounding DC not being backed) to claim he hasn't been given money to spend is unfair imo. He was given a decent amount of money, not as much as Charlton or Blackburn who dish out £1m+ bids for players and offer double the wages we do, but taking FFP into consideration, I would imagine his budget in the summer was close to the maximum the board could give him under the current infrastructure. For me, the "last chance" for these owners is to see through the construction of an impressive training ground. That will restore faith and then hopefully we can get behind some hopefully promising stadium redevelopment plans. If it falls through however, then I really think they'll have lost the fanbase altogether. You surely have to balance the money he's been given by the money he's received, he's now well n surplus and that probably hasn't been the case for a Rovers manager since Holloway sold Roberts & Cureton. Plus DC was basically rebuilding a Conference side not just tweaking a side already in Div 1 or 2.
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Post by GasAttacK on Jan 7, 2018 11:57:38 GMT
I'm not sure 'last chance' is quite right but I certainly think they'll lose the support of a lot of fans if we don't see at least 2 or 3 quality additions.
DC said himself that his net spend in 3 1/2 years was about 100k. Well if the reported 400-500k for BB is true that means he's now made 300-400k net profit on transfers since he took charge and lost our 2 best players in the prcoess.
If we were 10 points above the bottom 4 and 10 points off the play off's I'd say save most of the budget until the summer. However, if Wimbledon pick up a point from their game in hand the gap to the drop zone is just 4 points and that's too close for comfort. That's particularly true when you factor in our results without BB this season, losing 9 of 10 games.
Without 2 or 3 quality additions we are in serious danger of going down and I would therefore be disappointed if the board don't back the manager in this window to bring in the players we need to make sure we're still playing in L1 next season.
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Post by Marshy on Jan 7, 2018 12:13:45 GMT
I do feel sorry for DC, imagine showing potential signings around the Mem? What a great selling point that must be! Sounds like we only pay middle of the road wages at best, are only sellling point must be the atttendance numbers and the loyal passionate fans? We need to move forward with better facilities ASAP or we will be a league 1 league 2 yo-yo club forever.,
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Post by peterparker on Jan 7, 2018 12:20:46 GMT
I've seen a lot of posts and tweets about people saying how they're "sorry for the manager as the owners haven't backed him". Let's put that into a bit of context: This summer, the big one, where people said we'd find out if the AQs were serious, Clarke was given over half a million. He spent that £500,000 on two players (rightly or wrongly). One has been great for us, and the other whilst he has potential has overall been ineffective. I know £300k of that is the Taylor money, but for some people (not targeting OP here but more the general comments surrounding DC not being backed) to claim he hasn't been given money to spend is unfair imo. He was given a decent amount of money, not as much as Charlton or Blackburn who dish out £1m+ bids for players and offer double the wages we do, but taking FFP into consideration, I would imagine his budget in the summer was close to the maximum the board could give him under the current infrastructure. For me, the "last chance" for these owners is to see through the construction of an impressive training ground. That will restore faith and then hopefully we can get behind some hopefully promising stadium redevelopment plans. If it falls through however, then I really think they'll have lost the fanbase altogether. You surely have to balance the money he's been given by the money he's received, he's now well n surplus and that probably hasn't been the case for a Rovers manager since Holloway sold Roberts & Cureton. Plus DC was basically rebuilding a Conference side not just tweaking a side already in Div 1 or 2. They didnt have to give him the money though did they. Could of paid some of the interest so many people think they are stiffing us for on their loans
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Post by singupgas on Jan 7, 2018 12:42:19 GMT
Its alright saying if we were going to make the play offs then no one would care - we certainly are not going to get close to the play offs this season. Also it is frustrating that in the summer, in fact every summer it was obvious we needed to rebuild the squad and the number of players we were after became less and less.
Are we having a boring season? - We are heading towards a relegation battle, think we are having a very worrying season. Naturally the board are being looked at now, they came in setting expectation to evolve, we are beginning to go backwards. If I was board that "are here for the long run", I would want to make sure my club stays up. Its not like the family have NO money is it.
The news about the training ground came across as a blow softener, as if the fans are nothing but muppets that have no intelligence and just turn up to watch football on a Saturday. They could have announced the training ground days after, the timing seemed odd. The new training ground will be fantastic for the club and obviously needed, if built then brilliant, but how many fans watch football at a training facility on a Saturday afternoon.
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