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Post by Gassy on Feb 19, 2018 9:16:37 GMT
I think technically Nichols is a good player and I can see all the reasons they bought him. Similar to Taylor in style, but it hasnt worked for him SO FAR. If he had scored early in the season and hit the ground running we could be saying something different about him right now. I wouodnt give up on him after one season, like some want to bin him now. If we did that for everyone, most of the the players that got us promoted would have been out the door at some point Agree with parts of it, but ultimately he didn't hit the ground running. Just for arguments sake, imagine if we kept on every player that failed to make an impact for us, where would we be then? Your last point on the current players, the difference is that they did make it. And they did it pretty early on. For the record, I'm not saying get rid of Nichols, certainly not while we have no one better to replace him anyway - but I do see why people think we should at least send him out on loan
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Post by LJG on Feb 19, 2018 9:31:32 GMT
If someone was prepared to take Nichols I'd look to move him on already. Signing a goalscorer in the summer would be one of my top priorities. If you were scouting for another club would you recommend him?
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Post by socrates on Feb 19, 2018 9:50:21 GMT
I think technically Nichols is a good player and I can see all the reasons they bought him. Similar to Taylor in style, but it hasnt worked for him SO FAR. If he had scored early in the season and hit the ground running we could be saying something different about him right now. I wouodnt give up on him after one season, like some want to bin him now. If we did that for everyone, most of the the players that got us promoted would have been out the door at some point How often does he look like scoring though ? I know Taylor , Roberts lambert etc took a while to get going but they all looked like they would get going. TN doesn’t.
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Post by LJG on Feb 19, 2018 9:53:06 GMT
I think technically Nichols is a good player and I can see all the reasons they bought him. Similar to Taylor in style, but it hasnt worked for him SO FAR. If he had scored early in the season and hit the ground running we could be saying something different about him right now. I wouodnt give up on him after one season, like some want to bin him now. If we did that for everyone, most of the the players that got us promoted would have been out the door at some point How often does he look like scoring though ? I know Taylor , Roberts lambert etc took a while to get going but they all looked like they would get going. TN doesn’t. I actually think people including me said the same about Taylor. From memory I don't recall Taylor really looking that much better.
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 19, 2018 10:00:31 GMT
How often does he look like scoring though ? I know Taylor , Roberts lambert etc took a while to get going but they all looked like they would get going. TN doesn’t. I actually think people including me said the same about Taylor. From memory I don't recall Taylor really looking that much better. You re missing the point we have to have a scapegoat Ellis has gone from zero to Hero! Nicho will be next😂😂
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Post by socrates on Feb 19, 2018 10:08:08 GMT
How often does he look like scoring though ? I know Taylor , Roberts lambert etc took a while to get going but they all looked like they would get going. TN doesn’t. I actually think people including me said the same about Taylor. From memory I don't recall Taylor really looking that much better. Taylor missed loads of sitters before and after he started to score regularly for us. Nichols doesn’t miss sitters he doesn’t score goals and he doesn’t get chances. Yet.
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Post by socrates on Feb 19, 2018 10:12:29 GMT
I actually think people including me said the same about Taylor. From memory I don't recall Taylor really looking that much better. You re missing the point we have to have a scapegoat Ellis has gone from zero to Hero! Nicho will be next😂😂 I’m not looking for a scapegoat I’m looking for every Rovers player to do what’s asked of them. As a striker Nichols doesn’t get in to goal scoring positions doesn’t ever look like scoring apart from one back pass v mk dons that my Gan would have scored. I hope he comes good I really do but so far he’s been utter sh**e, call it scapegoat if you want I’m just saying how I see it.
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Post by stroudgas93 on Feb 19, 2018 10:13:55 GMT
I think technically Nichols is a good player and I can see all the reasons they bought him. Similar to Taylor in style, but it hasnt worked for him SO FAR. If he had scored early in the season and hit the ground running we could be saying something different about him right now. I wouodnt give up on him after one season, like some want to bin him now. If we did that for everyone, most of the the players that got us promoted would have been out the door at some point Most of those players only took a couple of months to get going, after that I saw no such problems. Whilst the lad has good technical ability, it's taken a hell of a long time for him to fit in, to me, he doesn't look like part of the team, doesn't look like scoring, doesn't create his own opportunities and when he does, he fluffs his lines completely. I understand that we aren't playing Telford because we paid for Nichols, but surely if we know he's going to be contracted to us next year then why not give Dom a chance to prove his worth?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 19, 2018 10:19:21 GMT
I think technically Nichols is a good player and I can see all the reasons they bought him. Similar to Taylor in style, but it hasnt worked for him SO FAR. If he had scored early in the season and hit the ground running we could be saying something different about him right now. I wouodnt give up on him after one season, like some want to bin him now. If we did that for everyone, most of the the players that got us promoted would have been out the door at some point Most of those players only took a couple of months to get going, after that I saw no such problems. Whilst the lad has good technical ability, it's taken a hell of a long time for him to fit in, to me, he doesn't look like part of the team, doesn't look like scoring, doesn't create his own opportunities and when he does, he fluffs his lines completely. I understand that we aren't playing Telford because we paid for Nichols, but surely if we know he's going to be contracted to us next year then why not give Dom a chance to prove his worth? It will be a bit late to find out Telford is no better than James/Nichols once we've signed him!! I'd like to see him get the minutes that Nichols is currently wasting if only to make sure we don't have a third season with a goal shy striker!!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 19, 2018 10:22:39 GMT
You re missing the point we have to have a scapegoat Ellis has gone from zero to Hero! Nicho will be next😂😂 I’m not looking for a scapegoat I’m looking for every Rovers player to do what’s asked of them. As a striker Nichols doesn’t get in to goal scoring positions doesn’t ever look like scoring apart from one back pass v mk dons that my Gan would have scored. I hope he comes good I really do but so far he’s been utter sh**e, call it scapegoat if you want I’m just saying how I see it. When we get some players that can read his game and play him a decent ball to his feet instead of head height He will score loads
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 19, 2018 10:33:27 GMT
You re missing the point we have to have a scapegoat Ellis has gone from zero to Hero! Nicho will be next😂😂 I’m not looking for a scapegoat I’m looking for every Rovers player to do what’s asked of them. As a striker Nichols doesn’t get in to goal scoring positions doesn’t ever look like scoring apart from one back pass v mk dons that my Gan would have scored. I hope he comes good I really do but so far he’s been utter sh**e, call it scapegoat if you want I’m just saying how I see it. D.C. accepted last week that he has played Nicho out of position he spends too much time on the wing and not as a direct striker, he looked good for Exeter so there is a player in there somewhere, not saying you want a scapegoat but look where Ellis has come from on here, he will come good.
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Post by LJG on Feb 19, 2018 10:36:43 GMT
I actually think people including me said the same about Taylor. From memory I don't recall Taylor really looking that much better. Taylor missed loads of sitters before and after he started to score regularly for us. Nichols doesn’t miss sitters he doesn’t score goals and he doesn’t get chances. Yet. Nah come on TN has fluffed one on ones. Taylor did the same for a while.
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Post by stroudgas93 on Feb 19, 2018 10:42:49 GMT
Most of those players only took a couple of months to get going, after that I saw no such problems. Whilst the lad has good technical ability, it's taken a hell of a long time for him to fit in, to me, he doesn't look like part of the team, doesn't look like scoring, doesn't create his own opportunities and when he does, he fluffs his lines completely. I understand that we aren't playing Telford because we paid for Nichols, but surely if we know he's going to be contracted to us next year then why not give Dom a chance to prove his worth? It will be a bit late to find out Telford is no better than James/Nichols once we've signed him!! I'd like to see him get the minutes that Nichols is currently wasting if only to make sure we don't have a third season with a goal shy striker!! Telford has scored 3 goals for us in what I believe is less than 10 appearances. Nichols and James have 2 between them in 40 games and counting. Telford looks a threat and more like the player we should be playing, tbh with his style and the way he plays he's basically Matty Taylor, very similar technique and Telford is still only 21 and putting the ball in the net for the development squad as well. I don't think he will be goal shy in the slightest, he has a point to prove if he wants to be playing in the FL next season and I'd rather that over Nichols who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
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Post by stroudgas93 on Feb 19, 2018 10:47:57 GMT
Taylor missed loads of sitters before and after he started to score regularly for us. Nichols doesn’t miss sitters he doesn’t score goals and he doesn’t get chances. Yet. Nah come on TN has fluffed one on ones. Taylor did the same for a while. Taylor got a ridiculous amount of chances each game and more often than not he would put one, two or three away, he also created many for himself and got himself in the right areas, I understand people want to back Nichols but he just isn't good enough.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 19, 2018 10:56:01 GMT
It will be a bit late to find out Telford is no better than James/Nichols once we've signed him!! I'd like to see him get the minutes that Nichols is currently wasting if only to make sure we don't have a third season with a goal shy striker!! Telford has scored 3 goals for us in what I believe is less than 10 appearances. Nichols and James have 2 between them in 40 games and counting. Telford looks a threat and more like the player we should be playing, tbh with his style and the way he plays he's basically Matty Taylor, very similar technique and Telford is still only 21 and putting the ball in the net for the development squad as well. I don't think he will be goal shy in the slightest, he has a point to prove if he wants to be playing in the FL next season and I'd rather that over Nichols who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat. So if Telford comes in ( and i would like to see him play ) and he smashes 10 goals before then end of the season, do you think Stoke will release him on a free to us ?
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Post by stroudgas93 on Feb 19, 2018 10:58:04 GMT
I believe he's out of contract but there may be a tribunal fee possibly.
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Post by oldgas on Feb 19, 2018 11:20:40 GMT
Nichols reminds me of Luke James I'm afraid. If anything James had more technical skill.
Nicholls is just too lightweight and gets knocked off the ball easily. He didn't intentionally set up that goal against Rochdale, it was a crap header which fortunately fell to our player to score.
I don't know who recommended him to DC, but for his league you need physical brutes to compete with the robust defenders we come up against. I think DC should admit defeat with Nicholls, move him on and never do business with f@cking Peterborough again.
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Post by stroudgas93 on Feb 19, 2018 11:23:12 GMT
Nichols reminds me of Luke James I'm afraid. If anything James had more technical skill. Nicholls is just too lightweight and gets knocked off the ball easily. He didn't intentionally set up that goal against Rochdale, it was a crap header which fortunately fell to our player to score. I don't know who recommended him to DC, but for his league you need physical brutes to compete with the robust defenders we come up against. I think DC should admit defeat with Nicholls, move him on and never do business with f@cking Peterborough again. I don't think you need a brute to be successful in this league but Nichols is a flat out Pussy imo, weaker than nats water
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Feb 19, 2018 11:24:15 GMT
Nichols reminds me of Luke James I'm afraid. If anything James had more technical skill. Nicholls is just too lightweight and gets knocked off the ball easily. He didn't intentionally set up that goal against Rochdale, it was a crap header which fortunately fell to our player to score. I don't know who recommended him to DC, but for his league you need physical brutes to compete with the robust defenders we come up against. I think DC should admit defeat with Nicholls, move him on and never do business with f@cking Peterborough again. Yep, let's just flush £350K down the toilet and start again.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 19, 2018 11:29:30 GMT
Nichols reminds me of Luke James I'm afraid. If anything James had more technical skill. Nicholls is just too lightweight and gets knocked off the ball easily. He didn't intentionally set up that goal against Rochdale, it was a crap header which fortunately fell to our player to score. I don't know who recommended him to DC, but for his league you need physical brutes to compete with the robust defenders we come up against. I think DC should admit defeat with Nicholls, move him on and never do business with f@cking Peterborough again. I would guess the size difference between Nichols and the snake is minimal, yet he managed to knock a few in for us
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