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Post by Gas-Ed on Jul 28, 2018 18:02:04 GMT
Were just like shrewsbury,walsall,gillingham,burton,wimbledon,plymouth,rochdale and several other league one clubs. We have to get by on free transfers,loans and trying to bring players through the youth set up. Were not special and its not what we hoped for when the owners came in but we do have some very decent league one players so all is not lost imo. We received £400k plus for Bodin, £750k plus for Harrison and £150k for Gaffney - Surely it is not unreasonable for the Board to make a fair chunk of that available to DC. I find it a bit strange. We have made a bit of money from the EH sale, which a week or two ago wasn’t in the pipeline. We have therefore freed up EH’s wage and pocketed a tidy sum, money which was not previously available. Why are we unable to use this money to purchase a number 9?
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Post by rosssgb on Jul 28, 2018 18:04:52 GMT
I’ve seen figures on Twitter banded about for Devante Cole in the 400k region - if we can’t afford that after just selling Ellis for 750 then I really am lost (and DC won’t be hanging around for long).
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Post by axegas on Jul 28, 2018 18:08:58 GMT
It’s clever interview tactics from DC, putting public pressure on the board to squeeze every penny that he can out of them, I wouldn’t expect anything less from him. He’s also probably pretty watered by today’s performance which can explain his negativity as he is a man who likes to wear his heart on his sleeve.
When looking for strikers there were always going to some that were simply out of our price bracket, clubs and agents can afford to put demands for players who are in contract exceptionally high as every club wants a man up top who’s goals can move them up the league.
I really hope Wael and the board see this and back DC to bring in the strikers that will push us towards where we want to be.
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Post by gaelgas on Jul 28, 2018 18:10:11 GMT
Ha, part of me did wonder if he is playing mind games and we are after him but trying to lower Exeter's valuation. Surely we could put a lower fee but higher % clause. I tend to think there's a bit of mind games going on, it's a bit like poker, no one wants to show their hand, maybe DC knows more than he's letting on.
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Post by oldgas on Jul 28, 2018 18:11:53 GMT
Having watched that pile of Shyte today I would say we are in desperate need of someone big, powerful and mobile up front.
I know it was only a friendly but Nicholls looked like a boy in men's football. He was getting whacked around left, right and centre, it was like we were playing with 10 men. Reilly didn't get any more joy, and we were 4 down when he came on. Pathetic.
I don't know who was in Box 1, but whoever was, they must have seen what I and every other fan in the ground saw. A good number of decent crosses were fired into their box, we might as well have kicked the ball out each time for a goal kick and saved everyone the bother.
£4 each for a pasty and a sausage roll, ST 's more expensive, they need to give us something back.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 28, 2018 18:12:20 GMT
Ha, part of me did wonder if he is playing mind games and we are after him but trying to lower Exeter's valuation. Surely we could put a lower fee but higher % clause. I tend to think there's a bit of mind games going on, it's a bit like poker, no one wants to show their hand, maybe DC knows more than he's letting on. Maybe, if it is Stockley, I wouldn't be against him. Would like him to be more mobile but physically a nuisance in both boxes and others could play off him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 18:13:08 GMT
Were just like shrewsbury,walsall,gillingham,burton,wimbledon,plymouth,rochdale and several other league one clubs. We have to get by on free transfers,loans and trying to bring players through the youth set up. Were not special and its not what we hoped for when the owners came in but we do have some very decent league one players so all is not lost imo. We received £400k plus for Bodin, £750k plus for Harrison and £150k for Gaffney - Surely it is not unreasonable for the Board to make a fair chunk of that available to DC. Have you seen how luch our admin costs have increased under DS? That revenue is all going to be spunked away on producing a new programme, the office in london and creating more middle management roles before it even gets to DC.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 28, 2018 18:13:21 GMT
Having watched that pile of Shyte today I would say we are in desperate need of someone big, powerful and mobile up front. I know it was only a friendly but Nicholls looked like a boy in men's football. He was getting whacked around left, right and centre, it was like we were playing with 10 men. Reilly didn't get any more joy, and we were 4 down when he came on. Pathetic. I don't know who was in Box 1, but whoever was, they must have seen what I and every other fan in the ground saw. A good number of decent crosses were fired into their box, we might as well have kicked the ball out each time for a goal kick and saved everyone the bother. £4 each for a pasty and a sausage roll, ST 's more expensive, they need to give us something back. I would imagine Exeter's board members and family/friends.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jul 28, 2018 18:14:24 GMT
I'll reserve judgement until I see who we bring in. Maybe DC was managing expectations he knows the supporters & more importantly other clubs know we need a striker & have money from the Ellis sale. Why make things more difficult for himself by bigging up who we might be bringing in. The other thing to consider is that spending £500k doesn't guarantee anything a free transfer could just as easily score more goals than a marquee signing. Let's see who comes in before writing the season off
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Post by gaelgas on Jul 28, 2018 18:14:56 GMT
I tend to think there's a bit of mind games going on, it's a bit like poker, no one wants to show their hand, maybe DC knows more than he's letting on. Maybe, if it is Stockley, I wouldn't be against him. Would like him to be more mobile but physically a nuisance in both boxes and others could play off him. Agreed, although I didn't specifically mean Stockley. I'm just not sure that DC is going to come out and tell everyone exactly how much money he has to spend.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 18:22:31 GMT
If DC is saying the likes of Cole, Stockley and Doidge would be Marquee signings we really do have problems! Our owners are clearly not showing any ambition trying to get the club out of league one if they are not willing to use all of the money from the sales of Bodin and Harrison [our two goalscorers] we are going nowhere in an upward direction. This along with no news about training ground or stadium does not sit well with me and a good hiding next Saturday looks on the cards for a side with no physical presence up front and a soft belly in defence.
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Post by pirate on Jul 28, 2018 18:22:57 GMT
Let's be honest, "evolution not revolution" or whatever is just a different way of saying the Al Qadi family don't intend to spend the money it would take to reach the next level.
All the talk about budgets and financial fair play is a red herring too, if the Al Qaqdi's wanted to back DC with a top 6 budget they could. The FFP turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity.
Top 8 crowds, but bottom 8 budget I suspect. Not good enough!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 18:27:01 GMT
Let's be honest, "evolution not revolution" or whatever is just a different way of saying the Al Qadi family don't intend to spend the money it would take to reach the next level. All the talk about budgets and financial fair play is a red herring too, if the Al Qaqdi's wanted to back DC with a top 6 budget they could. The FFP turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity. Top 8 crowds, but bottom 8 budget I suspect. Not good enough! The thing is though if they aren't willing to fund the team why are they installing all these bean counters in the admin hierarchy and spending so much on HR infrastructure? Is their latest wheeze to just try and make a few quid by maximising match day revenue and funnelling that money straight into their pocket instead of via DC? I can't imagine for one minute that is going to turn out well, either for them or the fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 18:29:45 GMT
Wow! Having just heard DC's post match interview, I'm quite shocked and just hoping that, as suggested by some, he is boxing clever and putting pressure on the owners for more funds.
I'm not necessarily of the opinion that we have to spend money because we have just received some for Ellis. Like it or not, there are going to be competing pressures for that money when we lose money each season. We are no different to the vast majority of lower league clubs.
However, there needs to be some balance and to an extent, we may need to spend just to stay still. The wages side of things I understand - no way can we sign someone for say 600k as they will presumably attract wages much higher than others in the team, which cannot be a good thing. With regards the fee though, if DC is being denied say the 300k or so we spent on Nichols when he has made us over £1m and delivered two promotions and two mid table finishes, it wouldn't be entirely surprising if he lost patience and left at the first opportunity.
The next few weeks could be pivotal in our season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 18:39:25 GMT
DC suggested he did not have the budget for him but liked him. Surely we can pay better wages than Exeter ? I doubt Exeter will cave in and accept the first offer we make like we seem to have done when Ipswich made an offer for Harrison, I bet Hurst will be sat at home tonight wondering how he got EH so cheaply after his impressive debut v West Ham. Yes we seem to now lack the skills of a Geoff Dunsford (RIP) when it comes to negotiating fees for players we sell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 18:42:33 GMT
I’ve seen figures on Twitter banded about for Devante Cole in the 400k region - if we can’t afford that after just selling Ellis for 750 then I really am lost (and DC won’t be hanging around for long). Only possible reason is that he is asking for such large wages that it would put us over our limit on wages under fair play rules. Oh yes, possibly the owners want to recoup the cost of laying the new pitch?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 18:44:01 GMT
Funny isn’t it when the manager of the team you support speaks, you take on board what’s being said. When the likes of Mourhinio et al speak we all think “stop talking sh**e and playing the media/mind games”
Can somebody on desktop post a link to this forum at the stage last seasons pre season game was played?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 18:49:18 GMT
DC suggested he did not have the budget for him but liked him. Surely we can pay better wages than Exeter ? He might have been referring more to the near £1m fee exeter would require more than his salary?
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 28, 2018 18:49:27 GMT
I love how passionate the man is , I really do. I don’t think there was any kidolodgy in that interview he seems genuinely watered off. He was clearly annoyed about the result , injuries, Harrison leaving and how difficult we are finding it in trying to get our two strikers in. I also think there was a bit of pressure being placed on the board ( rightly so ). Like I previously said I still think we’ll get the required players in and we’ll go onto have a cracking season, but we have to make sure we get the strikers in through the door and another left back.
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Post by pirate on Jul 28, 2018 18:50:44 GMT
I’ve seen figures on Twitter banded about for Devante Cole in the 400k region - if we can’t afford that after just selling Ellis for 750 then I really am lost (and DC won’t be hanging around for long). Only possible reason is that he is asking for such large wages that it would put us over our limit on wages under fair play rules. Oh yes, possibly the owners want to recoup the cost of laying the new pitch? As I said above, the fair play rules can easily be got around if the Al Qadi's wanted to. The turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity.
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